http://wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=61277 Petraeus points to war with Iran Posted: April 10, 2008 8:27 pm Eastern © 2008 The neocons may yet get their war on Iran. Ever since President Nouri al-Maliki ordered the attacks in Basra on the Mahdi Army, Gen. David Petraeus has been laying the predicate for U.S. air strikes on Iran and a wider war in the Middle East. Iran, Petraeus told the Senate Armed Services Committee, has "fueled the recent violence in a particularly damaging way through its lethal support of the special groups." These "special groups" are "funded, trained, armed and directed by Iran's Quds Force with help from Lebanese Hezbollah. It was these groups that launched Iranian rockets and mortar rounds at Iraq's seat of government (the Green Zone) ... causing loss of innocent life and fear in the capital." Is the Iranian government aware of this – and behind it? "President Ahmadinejad and other Iranian leaders" promised to end their "support for the special groups," said the general, but the "nefarious activities of the Quds force have continued." Are Iranians then murdering Americans, asked Joe Lieberman: "Is it fair to say that the Iranian-backed special groups in Iraq are responsible for the murder of hundreds of American soldiers and thousands of Iraqi soldiers and civilians?" "It certainly is. ... That is correct," said Petraeus. The following day, Petraeus told the House Armed Services Committee, "Unchecked, the 'special groups' pose the greatest long-term threat to the viability of a democratic Iraq." Translation: The United States is now fighting the proxies of Iran for the future of Iraq. The general's testimony is forcing Bush's hand, for consider the question it logically raises: If the Quds Force and Hezbollah, both designated as terrorist organizations, are arming, training and directing "special groups" to "murder" Americans, and rocket and mortar the Green Zone to kill our diplomats, and they now represent the No. 1 threat to a free Iraq, why has Bush failed to neutralize these base camps of terror and aggression? Hence, be not surprised if President Bush appears before the TV cameras, one day soon, to declare: "My commanding general in Iraq, David Petraeus, has told me that Iran, with the knowledge of President Ahmadinejad, has become a privileged sanctuary for two terrorist organizations – Hezbollah and the Quds Force of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard – to train, arm and direct terrorist attacks on U.S. and coalition forces, despite repeated promises to halt this murderous practice. "I have therefore directed U.S. air and naval forces to begin air strikes on these base camps of terror. Our attacks will continue until the Iranian attacks cease." Because of the failures of a Democratic Congress elected to end the war, Bush can now make a compelling case that he would be acting fully within his authority as commander in chief. In early 2007, Nancy Pelosi pulled down a resolution that would have denied Bush the authority to attack Iran without congressional approval. In September, both Houses passed the Kyl-Lieberman resolution designating the Iranian Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization. Courtesy of Congress, Bush thus has a blank check for war on Iran. And the signs are growing that he intends to fill it in and cash it. Israel has been hurling invective at Iran and conducting security drills to prepare its population for rocket barrages worse than those Hezbollah delivered in the Lebanon War. Adm. William "Fox" Fallon, the Central Command head who opposed war with Iran, has been removed. Hamas and Hezbollah have been stocking up on Qassam and Katyusha rockets. Vice President Cheney has lately toured Arab capitals. And President Ahmadinejad just made international headlines by declaring that Tehran will begin installing 6,000 advanced centrifuges to accelerate Iran's enrichment of uranium. This is Bush's last chance to strike and, when Iran responds, to effect its nuclear castration. Are Bush and Cheney likely to pass up this last chance to destroy Iran's nuclear facilities and effect the election of John McCain? For any attack on Iran's "terrorist bases" would rally the GOP and drive a wedge between Obama and Hillary. Indeed, Sen. Clinton, who voted to declare Iran's Revolutionary Guard a terrorist organization, could hardly denounce Bush for ordering air strikes on the Revolutionary Guards' Quds Force, when Petraeus testified, in her presence, that it is behind the serial murder of U.S. soldiers. The Iranians may sense what is afoot. For Tehran helped broker the truce in the Maliki-Sadr clash in Basra, and has called for a halt to the mortar and rocket attacks on the Green Zone. With a friendly regime in Baghdad that rolled out the red carpet for Ahmadinejad, Iran has nothing to gain by war. Already, it is the big winner from the U.S. wars that took down Tehran's Taliban enemies, decimated its al-Qaida enemies and destroyed its Sunni enemies, Saddam and his Baath Party. No, it is not Iran that wants a war with the United States. It is the United States that has reasons to want a short, sharp war with Iran.
No. Military action against Iran is a short term knee-jerk reaction. What's really going on in Iran is terrible for the people and for the current govt. there. We're going to do quite well if we hold them at bay and let the economics and politics of things there work their way out. The avg. Iranian on the street likes America and Americans and there's no doubt in my mind they'd love to see the US and Iran have good relations. In the meanwhile, Iran's economy is in shambles much like the USSR's was about the time of their collapse: 1) Iran is pretty close to the point where they will need to actually import oil to satisfy their society's demand for it. So they're not going to have some windfalls on oil sales elsewhere. 2) Iran's Inflation is at 22.5% and rising by about 2% per month and at 10% their economy's growth rate. 3) Iran cannot survive much in the way of economic sanctions. I think the strategy all along has been to sweat it out and wait for change in Iranian leadership from within.
Pretty slanted article there. I also don't think war with Iran is in the near future, though Iran's nuclear program isn't going to dissipate under the weight of the nation's overall mismanagement.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In early 2007, Nancy Pelosi pulled down a resolution that would have denied Bush the authority to attack Iran without congressional approval.</div> No wonder Congress has low ratings. And the writer, no matter how slanted he might be, brings up a very good point. Should Bush choose to strike Iran, McCain must certainly benefit from this. And even if he doesn't strike, then Iran will be inherited by the next President, Iraq and Iran become the no.1 issue in America, and McCain could tout his vast foreign policy experience in regards to dealing with the problem.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'>The avg. Iranian on the street likes America and Americans and there's no doubt in my mind they'd love to see the US and Iran have good relations. In the meanwhile, Iran's economy is in shambles much like the USSR's was about the time of their collapse: 1) Iran is pretty close to the point where they will need to actually import oil to satisfy their society's demand for it. So they're not going to have some windfalls on oil sales elsewhere. 2) Iran's Inflation is at 22.5% and rising by about 2% per month and at 10% their economy's growth rate. 3) Iran cannot survive much in the way of economic sanctions.</div> Exactly. The only thing keeping their economy afloat is the ridiculous price of crude. I've heard if it were to drop below $60/bbl then they are in real trouble. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane)</div><div class='quotemain'>I think the strategy all along has been to sweat it out and wait for change in Iranian leadership from within.</div> The US doesn't have the best track record w/ forcing regime changes especially in Iran. Going to war w/ Iran is idiotic. Why? The population is more homogenous & for the most part (as Denny mentioned) the people like the US and are not crazy about the mullahs... especially the youth & young adults.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think the strategy all along has been to sweat it out and wait for change in Iranian leadership from within.</div> That's what I've always thought. I remember reading something about the Iranian population being one of the most democratically inclined among non-democratic nations. I think military action would only make the situation unnecessarily complicated.
I think if Bush wanted to go into Iran, he would have done it at the same time we toppled Saddam Hussein. We had the troops, the support, the aircraft carriers and other ships, etc., there. He also had the support of the people (70%+ supported going into Iraq at the time). Neocons say that Bush blew it by not fully executing in the middle East in the first place. His approval ratings were through the roof when he was commanding our forces to actual military operations (vs. nation building/occupation); his drop in approval ratings would be attributed to not doing more. It's interesting to note that Afghanistan and Iraq are on either side of Iran, which in theory keeps Iran in a box. The downside of that strategy can be seen today with the Iranians fomenting violence in Gaza, Lebanon, and stirring up the Shi'ia in Iraq.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real)</div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>In early 2007, Nancy Pelosi pulled down a resolution that would have denied Bush the authority to attack Iran without congressional approval.</div> No wonder Congress has low ratings. </div> Neither, the legislative or executive branches are very well thought of recently. Per the Constitution, only Congress that has the power to declare war or ratify treaties.
^ However, the primary treaty-making power rests with the President, only thereafter subject to ratification by Congress. Similarly, in times where urgent action is needed, the President's latent powers are at their highest.