Toronto Raptors Official Draft Thread

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  1. BasX

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    [​IMG]<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#CC0033"><span style="font-family:Arial Black">CHASE BUDINGER</span></span></span>[​IMG]

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Physicals:
    H: 6' 7"
    W: 190 lbs
    Bday: 12/31/1987
    (20 Years Old)</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Comparisons:
    Best Case: Ray Allen
    Worst Case: Kelenna Azubuike</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths
    • Size
    • Explosiveness
    • Speed
    • Perimeter shooting
    • Finishing ability
    • Transition play
    • Basketball IQ
    • Unselfishness
    • Fundamentals
    • Court vision
    • Willingness to defend
    • Upside

    Weaknesses
    • Strength
    • Offensive creativity
    • Go-to scoring mentality
    • Mid-range game
    • Off the dribble shooting
    • Ball-handling skills
    • Mechanical/Stiff hips defensively
    • Better suited for small forward position?
    • Leadership?</div>

    Why it works
    Freakish Athlete, and his height at 6'7" could become a problem for defenders at the next level. He has also developed a good perimeter shooting game, shooting 38% in 2007-08, up 1.2% from his Freshmen year. He has developed a lot of his weaknesses within his Sophomore year at Arizona. This is a simple pick, if Chase wants to attack the basket, this is an excellent pick for the Raptors, if not, it's iffy.

    Why it doesn't work
    We already have a guy who is extremely athletic and who is willing to defend, and willing to defend doesn't mean your good at it, just means you want to try. If the Raptors selected Chase with there pick, he would have to develop into a go to scorer, whether or not he can become that is very unlikely, especially in the Raptor's system. Also, if he wants to play SF in the NBA, he needs to put on some weight, and become stronger, with guys like LBJ in the league, you need to start hitting the weight room. Like CDR, Lee and Alexander, if the Raptor's selected Chase, there would have to be a move involving either Kapono, Delfino or Graham.

    Overall
    Raptors need a good wing, and he's a good wing
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    [​IMG]<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#3399FF"><span style="font-family:Arial Black">KEVIN LOVE</span></span></span>[​IMG]

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Physicals:
    H: 6' 9"
    W: 255 lbs
    Bday: 09/07/1988
    (19 Years Old)</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Comparisons:
    Best Case: David West
    Worst Case: Sean May</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths
    • Productivity
    • Strength
    • Hands
    • Fundamentals
    • Intensity
    • Ability to score in the paint
    • Excellent Touch
    • Versatile post game
    • Range out to 3-point line
    • Free throw shooting
    • Ball-handling skills
    • Basketball IQ
    • Passing skills
    • Ability to ignite fast-breaks with outlet passes
    • Rebounding instincts
    • Winning attitude
    • Incredibly productive
    • Very little downside

    Weaknesses
    • Size
    • 15-20 pounds overweight
    • Explosiveness
    • Plays below the rim
    • Lateral quickness
    • Defensive potential
    • Ability to defend perimeter
    • Upside?</div>

    Why it works
    This guy has little downside (besides what is described below). He can spread the court, block college shots, rebound extremely well for his size. He also has very good ball handling skills for a guy his size. What he has that can be the most valuable to an NBA team is he has the balls to do whatever you need him to do. Raptors need a guy like this, a guy with strength, toughness and can get other guys going. Kevin is also the best outlet passer, big man, since Wes Unseld, and Wes was very good at it. He also brings a winning attitude to the Raptors Organization, coming from UCLA after a Final Four appearance vs the eventual runners up Memphis Tigers. Awesome kid and hard worker.

    Why it doesn't work
    Seems too small height wise to compete on a nightly basis in the NBA, for the build he has, in turn makes him a little over weight. Also you wonder about is explosiveness and if he has enough NBA defensive abilities to last a significant amount of time. Kevin Love has few flaws to his game, but these flaws (height, build, quickness) may be exploited a good amount in the NBA style of game. This is simple for the Raptors, Kris Humphries, i guess Kris is a poor man's Kevin Love, at best for Kris. Raptors can't have both on the roster, or else the Raptors will get killed on the board not on ability but on sheer size.

    Overall
    He's just a little small, but will be a good pro. Raptor's have more important needs before Love's skill set.
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  3. BasX

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    Who are some other guys you would like me to profile, i still got

    Brandon Rush
    Earl Clark
    Nicolas Batum
    Darren Collison
    Mario Chalmers

    any more?
     
  4. Master Shake

    Master Shake young phoenix

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    Ah, that's a good list. I'll look for more guys that could be a good fit.
     
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    Love is going to be drafted way to high, so I won't bother with him to much. All I know is he was a good scorer and player at UCLA, but he is slow and wouldn't fit our system.

    With Chase, I really like his game. Great athlete and the type of player BC and SMitch love. He brings defense, scoring, rebounding and excitement along with the passion to win and play hard. Thing is, he also might be drafted to high for us, but we'll see.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 15 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah, that's a good list. I'll look for more guys that could be a good fit.</div>
    yes please do, we got til late june and these are fun and kinda easy to do, though they will get harder
     
  7. Chutney

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    How about Russell Westbrook? I think he could end up being the best NBA player out of that UCLA squad.

    btw, I gotta give major props for your profiles man. They're really well-written.
     
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    Add Donte Greene from Syracuse to that list, I love his size and athleticism.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MosDefinitely @ Apr 16 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Add Donte Greene from Syracuse to that list, I love his size and athleticism.</div>
    funny you should say that heres an updated list of guys I'm gonna do, i got fed up with my stupid calculus class and started working on this

    Nicolas Batum
    Brandon Rush
    Darren Collison
    Mario Chalmers
    Earl Clark
    Russell Westbrook
    JaVale McGee
    Ty Lawson
    Hasheem Thabeet
    Alexis Ajinia
    Roy Hibbert
    Marrese Speights
    Donte Green
    Serge Ibaka
    Tyler Hansbrough
    Jason Thompson
    and a small surprise today [​IMG]
     
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    [​IMG]<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#FFCC33"><span style="font-family:Arial Black">SAM YOUNG</span></span></span>[​IMG]

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Physicals:
    H: 6' 6"
    W: 210 lbs
    Bday: 03/01/1985
    (23 Years Old)</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Comparisons:
    Best Case: James Posey
    Worst Case: Juby Johnson</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths
    • Strength
    • Athleticism
    • Wingspan
    • Frame
    • Catch and shoot 3-pointers
    • Finishing in transition
    • Ability to play in the post
    • Turnaround jumper
    • Rebounding
    • Perimeter defense
    • Toughness
    • Productivity
    • Plays within his limitations

    Weaknesses
    • Plays power forward in college
    • Still making transition to being a full-time wing
    • Ball-handling skills
    • Ability to create shot
    • Offensive creativity
    • Shooting off the dribble
    • Untested as a perimeter defender
    • Lacks ideal size
    • Passing ability
    • Old for class at 23</div>

    Why it works
    This is a guy who will be taken early in the 2nd round, at this point, but with his skill and ability, he could rise up quickly during camps and tryouts. Sam proved in the BIG EAST Tournament that he can play well under pressure. Sam averaged 18.1 PPG and 6.3 RPG during the regular season at Pittsburgh, but increased those numbers to 20.3 PPG and 7 RPG during the BIG EAST Tournament. Though his numbers dropped to 14.5 PPG and 3.5 RPG in the NCAA Tournament, he still proved he can play well in the big games. Sam has many attributes that the Raptors need, and the fact one of his weaknesses is his age is irrelevant in the ages of 29 year old rookies. He is athletic enough to be a serviceable player in the NBA.

    Why it doesn't work
    He will have a tough time going from college to the pros. He plays PF in the college game, a PF without a top notch perimeter defensive game. At 6'6" and a SF, he could have trouble with the quickness of other SF's. Also to become a staple in the Raptors system, you will need to create your own shot. This pick will be trouble for the Raptor's as it could have Joey Graham written all over it. If/When Young stays in college, he will be doing the smart choice, but he's not quite NBA ready, even for a 23 year old.

    Overall
    Just not what the Raptors need, but has skills that can develop over time
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    [​IMG]<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#3399FF"><span style="font-family:Arial Black">DARREN COLLISON</span></span></span>[​IMG]

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Physicals:
    H: 6' 1"
    W: 165 lbs
    Bday: 08/23/1987
    (20 Years Old)</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Comparisons:
    Best Case: Earl Watson
    Worst Case: Chris Duhon</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths
    • Pure point guard
    • Winner
    • Poise
    • Unselfish
    • Executes in half-court offense
    • Productive/Extremely efficient
    • Ball-handling skills
    • 3-point shot percentages
    • Decision making in transition
    • Pick and roll play
    • Basketball IQ
    • Man to man defense
    • Wingspan
    • Defensive awareness/Effort
    • Intangibles
    • Excellent student
    • Comes from strong background
    • Very little downside

    Weaknesses
    • Size
    • Strength
    • Scoring tools
    • Explosiveness
    • Finishing ability at rim
    • Perimeter shooting potential?
    • Limited number of attempts
    • Slow release
    • Role player
    • Upside?</div>

    Why it works
    Darren comes from a winning program at UCLA and is true winner. His man to man defense is awesome. Darren has very little downside to go with his limited upside making him a true what you see is what you get. He has a High B-ball IQ, he is unselfish and has poise under pressure and would be a good fit for the Raptors if they had a dire need at the PG spot. If Ford is traded and Ukic does not come over, this is a safe pick, problem is Ukic will be coming over and Ford traded at this point is about 50/50 max.

    Why it doesn't work
    TJ Ford v 2.0? maybe. Size wise it seems to look like it. The speed shows that as well. Darren really doesn't have much to look forward to in the NBA beyond a back-up PG role. He is not as strong as he could be and that could be hindering his development as a player. He also has a slow release with his shot that can or can not be inconsistent. Darren also fouled out of 2 of his last 3 games at UCLA including the Final Four game vs Memphis. You just wonder how much of an upside he has.

    Overall
    Tough, tough pick, just doesn't make sense for the Raptors at this point
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    Sam Young and Darren Collison up today
     
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    [​IMG]<span style="font-size:14pt;line-height:100%"><span style="color:#000080"><span style="font-family:Arial Black">BRANDON RUSH</span></span></span>[​IMG]

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Physicals:
    H: 6' 7"
    W: 211 lbs
    Bday: 07/08/1985
    (22 Years Old)</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Comparisons:
    Best Case: Eddie Jones
    Worst Case: Kelenna Azubuike</div>

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths
    ?€? Best player on NCAA Champion
    ?€? Improved Decisiveness
    ?€? Quick Release
    ?€? Winner
    ?€? Speed
    ?€? Quickness
    ?€? Excellent 3-Point Shooter
    ?€? Superb Size for a Wing Player
    ?€? Length
    ?€? Good Rebounder
    ?€? Plays Under Control
    ?€? Excellent Teammate
    ?€? Excellent Perimeter Defender
    ?€? Quick First Step

    Weaknesses
    ?€? Create own shot?
    ?€? Ball-handling
    ?€? Change of direction struggles
    ?€? Lacks aggressiveness
    ?€? Likely NBA role player
    ?€? Lacks Creativity
    ?€? Potential?</div>

    Why it works
    Brandon is a winner. He has won 3 Big 12 Championships, 2 Elite Eights and 1 Final Four that his team ended up winning. He is always defending the opposing teams best perimeter player. His length and wingspan are inhuman and helps him block shots no one even thinks is possible. Excellent team player and wants to get others involved, which will benefit the team. He has a very quick first step which makes up for his problems creating his own shot. He is a good rebounder for his size and he has improved his decisiveness since his time as a freshman. He is also an excellent 3-point shooter. This easily works for the Raptors, he and CDR are the best picks are the Raptors. They both are long. Brandon is a better shooter, Chris drives the ball better. The Raptors need CDR because he can create his own shot, but Brandon is a great 2nd option.

    Why it doesn't work
    You wonder about the amount of potential he has, and he will come into the NBA as a role-player, scoring 15 PPG at best. He also has trouble creating his own shot and creating it off the dribble. He lacks aggressive, more in the fact that he is very dependent on his teammates which can be positive and negative. He has few major weaknesses the can be exploited in the pros

    Overall
    He's got a man basketball player, he's got toughness and a will to win, something the Raptors have nothing of, his positives out weigh his negatives and I've seen him play since a freshman. He is the 2nd best player the Raptors can take, but knowing the Raptors, then won't get him. But I'm buying his jersey no matter what team he plays for.
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    lol, you think maybe you were a bit homerish with that one, Bas? j/k.

    I like Rush a lot and he's really shown improvement over his college career. But how high do you think his ceiling is? I remember reading a characterization of him as a more athletic Mo-Pete, in that he's a great outside shooter and solid defenders that's coming out of a good college program. But how significant a role he can hold on a team remains to be seen.

    Having seen our swingman spot manned by players like Peterson, Graham, Kapono, and Moon over the last couple years, I'm very hesitant about bringing in one that lacks the ability to penetrate with the dribble. This team's lacking that sorely lacking that ability right now and its shows in our low FT attempts. If we're looking at 3's, CDR should be the guy, IMO.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Apr 20 2008, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol, you think maybe you were a bit homerish with that one, Bas? j/k.

    I like Rush a lot and he's really shown improvement over his college career. But how high do you think his ceiling is? I remember reading a characterization of him as a more athletic Mo-Pete, in that he's a great outside shooter and solid defenders that's coming out of a good college program. But how significant a role he can hold on a team remains to be seen.

    Having seen our swingman spot manned by players like Peterson, Graham, Kapono, and Moon over the last couple years, I'm very hesitant about bringing in one that lacks the ability to penetrate with the dribble. This team's lacking that sorely lacking that ability right now and its shows in our low FT attempts. If we're looking at 3's, CDR should be the guy, IMO.</div>
    i wont lie, there is bias there, but besides his lack of driving ability, hes a excellent choice, because he has alot of tools, but CDr is by far the best pick and if Rush got to be on a team like the spurs, he can replace Bruce in the starting lineup, and become an excellent player in there system. and i think Rush is a 4 not a 5, i actually over starred him

    ouch lawl
     
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    more are going up soon
    just a lil busy but get ready soon alot will be up
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Apr 23 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>[​IMG]</div>

    I love it! I saw that too, and I was happy. If we can get him, it's a great improvement and I see him becoming a solid starter.
     
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    I dont know why, but I dont really have a good feeling about CDR. Even though I have barely seen him play college ball, its just this weird feeling I get about him as if his game wont translate well in the NBA...I dont know, hopefully im wrong.
     

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