Vince Carter's salary

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    "Jefferson didn't criticize Kidd for the way he handled his trade request, and he didn't question that Kidd played as hard as he could for the Nets. But he said that it was obvious to everyone on the team -- even before the regular season started -- that Kidd didn't want to be there, which had unavoidable negative consequences.

    While many people didn't know for sure about Kidd's dissatisfaction until late January when he made his desire to be traded public, Jefferson said the team knew as early as training camp.

    "People made it seem like that situation came up only when he went public," Jefferson said. "No, that situation had been going on pretty much all season, but it was behind closed doors. We do a very good job of keeping our laundry in house, our dirty laundry. So when it did come out, it was such big news because that's not the way we normally go about things."


    http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2008/03/r...idd_gloves.html
     
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    So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 13 2008, 11:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 14 2008, 12:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 12:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I can give you that on his points. He had his on and off days with sometimes going many games without having 20 points. But VC was always there on rebounds and assists.</div>

    Rebounds and assists? We had Kidd at the time. The Nets needed scoring from Vince, and he didn't deliver.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Joker:He didn't decide to finally put an effort, he was playing through the pain all year.</div>

    But now all of a sudden he's pain-free putting up monster numbers. Hm...
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    So assists don't lead to points?

    Ever since Kidd left he's been putting up huge numbers, like User said. Coincidence?
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    10-17 since Kidd left.
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    I agree with Cmoney. JKidd was the leader so we looked to him to be vocal and set an example for the team. You guys keep saying vince couldn't score and everything and our win situation... but there are teams with someone with a max contract that has a crappy record. Look at Joe johnson last year, paul pierce last year, gasol last year. These were all teams that just didn't have the right pieces surrounded with them. And im sure we all agree that our team does NOT have the right mix of guys. Sure, vince was surrounded by Kidd and RJ, but teams that lack a dominant big which we never had just don't succeed, which is why I point my finger at thorn the past 3 years. You guys are making it seem like it is all vince's fault because he couldn't take over or score, but this is a team game. If you can average 21/6/5 even throughout the year that is still an amazing statline. And is it only vince who was inconsistant? Our WHOLE team was inconsistant. You can say RJ was very inconsitant some nights driving and getting to the line, while others he was absent. Boone, boki, krstic, swill were all inconsistant even more so than vince. So imo vince is actually more consistant than some of our other players. The fact that we had 0 wins without vince says enough. We are 10-17 without jkidd because it does take the team to transition with new players... especially when our team's look completely changed being the NBA's team with the most change in the roster. Now that Jkidd is gone i assume Carter realizes that he is NOW the captian of the team and has assumed the responsibilities. Even harris is now pretty inconsistant. I don't get how someone can call vince out being inconsistant especially when you guys have watched our team play all year. the most consistant guys were probably magloire / ager, sitting on the bench every night.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 01:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.</div>

    Could I get a source? I never heard anything like.

    Lets be honest here, Kidd is what 36? He wanted a championship and he knew that he had to win one either this year or next, or that might be it for him. He didn't see this team going anywhere before the season and decided to let everybody know about it. I'm not sure how he could think this is a good idea, but he did it nonetheless.

    Let me ask you a question. Have you ever played on a sports team? Because I know that if I was on a team and the "leader" of my team decided to make it known to all the players that this team wasn't good enough and that he wanted out, why in hell would I give my 100% for him.

    This team was the same team from last year that got the 6th seed in the playoffs. And this year we can't even compete with anyone. Is it a coincidence that it happened this year when Kidd made those comments?

    Carter's numbers dip about 5 points per game before the Kidd trade, then right after he gets traded they go up to about 27 per game. Is that a coincidence? I don't think it had anything to do with Vince Carter just deciding to wake up one day because he saw the Nets were down in the standings. I think it was someone else who gave up on the season before it even started and that cancer got traded away.

    Kidd was the one who wrote the season off, I wouldn't of gave it my all in a doomed season either, according to my "leader" that is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.</div>

    What makes u think Kidd was disgruntled just at carter. I think he was flat out disgruntled at the whole team not playing to their full potential. We have a lot of soft bigs, and RJ who just as vince is inconsistant and Kidd was getting on RJ too. RJ averaged 7 rebounds 2 years prior and now he's averaging 4 and i read stories about Kidd was just as well on his case. It was just everything about the team that was bothering him imo, and he so called asked thorn for an extension that thorn wouldn't give. Kidd just wanted to be moved to a winning atmosphere. I agree vince dissapears sometimes, but you can say that about our whole team so why place all the blame directly on him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Apr 14 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.</div>

    What makes u think Kidd was disgruntled just at carter. I think he was flat out disgruntled at the whole team not playing to their full potential. We have a lot of soft bigs, and RJ who just as vince is inconsistant and Kidd was getting on RJ too. RJ averaged 7 rebounds 2 years prior and now he's averaging 4 and i read stories about Kidd was just as well on his case. It was just everything about the team that was bothering him imo, and he so called asked thorn for an extension that thorn wouldn't give. Kidd just wanted to be moved to a winning atmosphere. I agree vince dissapears sometimes, but you can say that about our whole team so why place all the blame directly on him.
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    because it will probably come back to the money he is making.

    the arguement is: why pay someone 13 million to put up 21/6/5

    but were paying stromile swift 6 million (our 3rd largest contract) to put up 6/3. Given, that used to be Jason Collins as our 3rd largest contract, which makes it worse that he was averaging 2/1.
     
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    And joker here's a good example for you:

    a player is getting paid 19 million this year, 21 million next year, and 23 the year after.

    This year he put up numbers of 22 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game.

    The team's star player went down for the year and they became a better team without this player putting up better numbers.

    The whole Houston Rockets TEAM stepped up, not just Tracy McGrady. He's getting paid significantly more than VC without putting up better numbers. And everyone is going to say well that's not true because he carries his team emotionally. Well no, the whole Rockets team stepped up. Players like Alston, Scola, and Landry. No one quit on the team or threw in the towel or waved the white flag or asked to be traded.
     
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    I don't know why it is assumed that people who don't like Carter's contract think Kidd was some kind of great leader.

    When I called out Kidd over the summer for playing on the stupid Pan American Games team, everyone on here jumped on me like I was insulting their God.

    He was a selfish prick that could care less about the Nets or their fans.

    And I think Carter's contract is terrible because it killed any small amount of trade value he had and there were no other teams interested in signing him.

    I bet Kiki curses under his breath at Thorn every day for signing Carter to that albatross of a deal. All it does is make his job harder.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 14 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Apr 14 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.</div>

    What makes u think Kidd was disgruntled just at carter. I think he was flat out disgruntled at the whole team not playing to their full potential. We have a lot of soft bigs, and RJ who just as vince is inconsistant and Kidd was getting on RJ too. RJ averaged 7 rebounds 2 years prior and now he's averaging 4 and i read stories about Kidd was just as well on his case. It was just everything about the team that was bothering him imo, and he so called asked thorn for an extension that thorn wouldn't give. Kidd just wanted to be moved to a winning atmosphere. I agree vince dissapears sometimes, but you can say that about our whole team so why place all the blame directly on him.
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    because it will probably come back to the money he is making.

    the arguement is: why pay someone 13 million to put up 21/6/5

    but were paying stromile swift 6 million (our 3rd largest contract) to put up 6/3. Given, that used to be Jason Collins as our 3rd largest contract, which makes it worse that he was averaging 2/1.
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    I don't get why we wouldn't pay someone 13 mill to average 21/6/5. Sure his salary is going to increase, but if he can average those numbers just short of kobe and lebron i say give it to him. Look at other people's contracts in the league... shaq 20mil, jermaine oneal 19 mil, marbury 19 mil, ben wallace 15.5 mil, sam cassell 15.3 mil, zach randolph 13.3 mil, joe johnson 13.4 mil, mike bibby 13.5 mil, larry hughes 12 mil, raef lafrenz 12 mil, kirk hinrich 11 mil, jrich 11 mil, peja 11 mil. Do you think all these people are worth what they are being paid? Sure he just got signed to a new deal... but averaging 20/5/5 is still not easy to do. Name someone that averages those numbers that makes less than that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Apr 14 2008, 02:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Cmoney707 @ Apr 14 2008, 12:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Apr 14 2008, 01:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Apr 14 2008, 12:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So this is Vince's excuse? He signs a large contract with the Nets, and because Kidd has some dissatisfaction, it's ok not to care. Great, awesome.

    But wait, Carter just signed a contract with the Nets. Why would Kidd be unhappy with this? Playing with such a superstar.


    Recent reports say that Kidd and Carter had multiple clashes, because Kidd thought Carter wasn't playing at his full potential. Out of all the people that can complain about Carter, it's Kidd. Maybe he was mad at Vince's disappearing act in the playoffs. Clearly, Kidd was tired of Vince. And I wonder why.</div>

    What makes u think Kidd was disgruntled just at carter. I think he was flat out disgruntled at the whole team not playing to their full potential. We have a lot of soft bigs, and RJ who just as vince is inconsistant and Kidd was getting on RJ too. RJ averaged 7 rebounds 2 years prior and now he's averaging 4 and i read stories about Kidd was just as well on his case. It was just everything about the team that was bothering him imo, and he so called asked thorn for an extension that thorn wouldn't give. Kidd just wanted to be moved to a winning atmosphere. I agree vince dissapears sometimes, but you can say that about our whole team so why place all the blame directly on him.
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    because it will probably come back to the money he is making.

    the arguement is: why pay someone 13 million to put up 21/6/5

    but were paying stromile swift 6 million (our 3rd largest contract) to put up 6/3. Given, that used to be Jason Collins as our 3rd largest contract, which makes it worse that he was averaging 2/1.
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    I don't get why we wouldn't pay someone 13 mill to average 21/6/5. Sure his salary is going to increase, but if he can average those numbers just short of kobe and lebron i say give it to him. Look at other people's contracts in the league... shaq 20mil, jermaine oneal 19 mil, marbury 19 mil, ben wallace 15.5 mil, sam cassell 15.3 mil, zach randolph 13.3 mil, joe johnson 13.4 mil, mike bibby 13.5 mil, larry hughes 12 mil, raef lafrenz 12 mil, kirk hinrich 11 mil, jrich 11 mil, peja 11 mil. Do you think all these people are worth what they are being paid? Sure he just got signed to a new deal... but averaging 20/5/5 is still not easy to do. Name someone that averages those numbers that makes less than that.
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    exactly and I'd be willing to bet he puts up something like 25/6/5 next year based on the way he's played since the trade. I mean the guy is still currently a top 15 scorer in the league in the worst season he's had in years.
     
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    To any Nets fan who watched the first 60 games, Vince was trying. He was just playing on a bum ankle/new offense/chemistry problems/off year....he missed a lot of shots and wasnt as good.even I can admit that. he didnt deliver the 1st half of the season. but he was trying. his heart was there. people should not question vinces effort anymore...since he came to Jersey, he has been stellar attitude wise.

    since Kidd got traded, Vince has lived up the contract. its not fault of his that the team didnt make the playoffs. he did his job...on and off the court. kinda like tmac last year in the playoffs? it was clear that tmac came to play but his team didnt live up.

    ian eagle talked about why vince is playing better. jim spanarkel mentioned how it was tough for vince to step on kidd's toes and demand the offense run through him and start talking to young guys. it was just confusing this year with kidd and its not an excuse...its a FACTOR. many factors contributed to how vince performed in the 1st half of the season. that was one of them.

    but im very optimistic about vince. he has proven he can still score 25+ easily and do it on a bum ankle. imagine a rested/healthy Vince with harris and new draft pick. im excited.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 14 2008, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know why it is assumed that people who don't like Carter's contract think Kidd was some kind of great leader.

    When I called out Kidd over the summer for playing on the stupid Pan American Games team, everyone on here jumped on me like I was insulting their God.

    He was a selfish prick that could care less about the Nets or their fans.

    And I think Carter's contract is terrible because it killed any small amount of trade value he had and there were no other teams interested in signing him.

    I bet Kiki curses under his breath at Thorn every day for signing Carter to that albatross of a deal. All it does is make his job harder.</div>



    Exactly. People who try to use stats to prove that VC contract is justified as cp said Zach Randolph put up similar numbers when he was a member of Blazers.

    wins>pretty stats.

    VC trade value is low. Every other GM are laughing at Rod Thorn for giving up that much money. Well maybe not the Knicks.

    Vc doesn't bring what Garnett brings to a team. That is another reason I feel Carter can not be here with a young team as the Nets. He will be looked at as the leader and he doesn't have it in him to lead. He will laugh and joke after getting blown out at home by 30.

    He is too comfortable with losing.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (killa kadafi191 @ Apr 14 2008, 06:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 14 2008, 01:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't know why it is assumed that people who don't like Carter's contract think Kidd was some kind of great leader.

    When I called out Kidd over the summer for playing on the stupid Pan American Games team, everyone on here jumped on me like I was insulting their God.

    He was a selfish prick that could care less about the Nets or their fans.

    And I think Carter's contract is terrible because it killed any small amount of trade value he had and there were no other teams interested in signing him.

    I bet Kiki curses under his breath at Thorn every day for signing Carter to that albatross of a deal. All it does is make his job harder.</div>



    Exactly. People who try to use stats to prove that VC contract is justified as cp said Zach Randolph put up similar numbers when he was a member of Blazers.

    wins>pretty stats.

    VC trade value is low. Every other GM are laughing at Rod Thorn for giving up that much money. Well maybe not the Knicks.

    Vc doesn't bring what Garnett brings to a team. That is another reason I feel Carter can not be here with a young team as the Nets. He will be looked at as the leader and he doesn't have it in him to lead. He will laugh and joke after getting blown out at home by 30.

    He is too comfortable with losing.
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    So you know the other GMs in the league?

    Who said Carter is better than Garnett? Thorn didnt sign Carter to be a Garnett.


    Let me remind you guys. The topic is "Is Vince worth his 13Mil"

    I dont understand how he isnt worth it. Look at this:


    2007-2008 NBA Salaries
    Based on the rosters for 2/22/08

    Finley, Marbury, O'neal, BENWALLACE, Francis, Odom

    They earn more than Carter. Carter's play on the court is worth 13mil. Im not saying he plays to his full potential, god knows sometimes he tries harder sometimes he doesnt, but that doesnt make him overpaid. IF he was paid something like 17mil, I would say he is overpaid, but for this year. NOWAY is he overpaid.


    1. Kevin Garnett (Bos) ......... $23,750,000
    2. Shaquille O'Neal (Pho) ...... $20,000,000
    3. Jason Kidd (Dal) ............ $19,728,000
    4. Jermaine O'Neal (Ind) ....... $19,728,000
    5. Kobe Bryant (LAL) ........... $19,490,625
    6. Tim Duncan (SA) ............. $19,014,188
    7. Tracy McGrady (Hou) ......... $19,014,187
    8. Allen Iverson (Den) ......... $19,012,500
    9. Stephon Marbury (NY) ........ $19,012,500
    10. Chris Webber (Phi) .......... $19,000,000 [released 1/11/07]
    11. Michael Finley (Dal) ........ $18,593,750 [released 8/15/05]
    12. Baron Davis (GS) ............ $16,440,000
    13. Shawn Marion (Mia) .......... $16,440,000
    14. Antawn Jamison (Was) ........ $16,360,094
    15. Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) ......... $16,360,094
    16. Paul Pierce (Bos) ........... $16,360,094
    17. Ray Allen (Bos) ............. $16,000,000
    18. Ben Wallace (Cle) ........... $15,500,000
    19. Elton Brand (LAC) ........... $15,344,000
    20. Steve Francis (Por) ......... $15,070,000 [released 7/11/07]
    21. Rashard Lewis (Orl) ......... $14,880,000
    22. Michael Redd (Mil) .......... $14,520,000
    23. Yao Ming (Hou) .............. $13,762,775
    24. Amare Stoudemire (Pho) ...... $13,762,775
    25. Pau Gasol (LAL) ............. $13,735,000
    26. Andrei Kirilenko (Uta) ...... $13,735,000
    27. Mike Bibby (Atl) ............ $13,500,000
    28. Joe Johnson (Atl) ........... $13,488,377
    29. Zach Randolph (NY) .......... $13,333,333
    30. Lamar Odom (LAL) ............ $13,248,596
    31. Vince Carter (NJ) ........... $13,320,000
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 14 2008, 12:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the complaints about his contract seem to generally center around the argument that it is too long--by the end of the deal he will be vastly overpaid, and that the Nets should have signed him to a three-year deal at around the same first-year salary.</div>
    This is my issue as well. The thing escalates too damn much. Will be a similar situation to Kidd where his salary will be way more than his skills are due to age.
     
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    kidd, vc and rj are all overpaid...but vc's contract (like dumpy said) is bad because of its length while jkidd's because of his age and rj's because of his skills...

    nets need to trade vc and rj and prepare for the coming of the king...
     
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    The Nets' goal is to rebuild the team and win a championship.

    Everything about Carter's contract is incongruent with that goal.

    Thorn foolishly still believed the Nets were a contending team when he offered that money and now he looks like a senile old fool.

    Vince might be a nice final piece for a team close to winning. Put him on the Jazz or the Hornets and look out! That's his value in the league right now.

    Even in his prime it was questionable at best whether he was good enough and tough enough to be the centerpiece of a championship team. Now with his age and health that's not even questionable. He's a complimentary player.

    The Nets have no use for that. Where the hell are they going to get two superstars for him to compliment over the life of his contract? The 10th pick of this below average draft? Is this going to yield a player that combined with Vince Carter will wipe out the Celtics and the Spurs?

    This contract is crippling. They will never get a Kidd-like offer for him. When they finally do trade him, it will be for pennies on the dollar (sound familiar?). That's Thorn's fault for either being spineless (kowtowing to Ratner, who knows NOTHING about the NBA) or just stupid.
     
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    Ok, back to Carter's salary now...lol

    I think he deserves somewhere around 12 million a year, maxing out at 14ish. Anymore and he is slightly overpaid.

    Now, a few years ago he could have gone for more IMO, but at the point of his career that he is now, he doesn't deserve superstar money, as he hasn't done anything to deserve superstar status anymore. Now, if next year he puts up 25/6/6, shoots a decent percentage and plays consistently throughout the season, maybe get the Nets to .500 and possibly into the playoffs and make some noise (not even win a series, just keep it close, maybe take it to 6 games and show his abilities), then I think his current contract will be worth it.
     
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    ghoti A PhD in Horribleness

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Base @ Apr 14 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ok, back to Carter's salary now...lol

    I think he deserves somewhere around 12 million a year, maxing out at 14ish. Anymore and he is slightly overpaid.

    Now, a few years ago he could have gone for more IMO, but at the point of his career that he is now, he doesn't deserve superstar money, as he hasn't done anything to deserve superstar status anymore. Now, if next year he puts up 25/6/6, shoots a decent percentage and plays consistently throughout the season, maybe get the Nets to .500 and possibly into the playoffs and make some noise (not even win a series, just keep it close, maybe take it to 6 games and show his abilities), then I think his current contract will be worth it.</div>

    So you don't care if the Nets win a championship.
     
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    J-HoAgZ Jay-Z + LBJ = NBA TAKEOVER

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    His salary is fine with me if he keeps producing big numbers. What I'm concerned about is his athleticism. I really don't want him coming back next year off of an ankle surgery and shooting deep 3's. Right now, he's 200 dunks behind the leader.

    http://www.sportsline.com/nba/dunk-o-meter
     
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    Charles Buster Posey Fan

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dino33 @ Apr 14 2008, 08:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So you know the other GMs in the league?

    Who said Carter is better than Garnett? Thorn didnt sign Carter to be a Garnett.


    Let me remind you guys. The topic is "Is Vince worth his 13Mil"

    I dont understand how he isnt worth it.</div>

    I don't see how anyone on this team can be worth 13 mil when they aren't going to make the playoffs in the East. Ben Wallace doesn't make Vince a bargain.
    The Nets are rebuilding. They are not going to be championship contenders next year. As long as Carter is here with his current contract, it's going to keep the Nets from building a better team. So what does his 25 ppg average exactly accomplish?
    When the team that I root for signs a player to that much money, he needs to be "a Kobe" or "a Garnett." If you want to make that much money and never win any ball games, go play for the Knicks. If you really deserve to make all that money, prove it. Win a freaking game.
     

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