Early Mock Drafts

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  1. SportsTicker

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    10. Joe Alexander, West Virginia, 6'8" SF
    21. JaVale McGhee, Nevada, 7'0" C
    40. N/A

    Draft Express

    10. DeAndre Jordan, Texas A&M, 7'0" C
    21. Darrell Arthur, Kansas, 6'9" PF
    40. Bill Walker, Kansas State, 6'6", SF

    ESPN Top 100

    10. Russell Westbrook, UCLA, 6'3", SG
    21. Joe Alexander, West Virginia, 6'8", SF
    40. Ante Tomic, Croatia, 7'2", C

    MSNBC

    10. Russell Westbrook, UCLA, 6'3", SG
    21. Wayne Ellington, North Carolina, 6'5", SG
    40. N/A

    NBADraft.net

    10. DeAndre Jordan, Texas A&M, 7'0", C
    21. Earl Clark, Louisville, 6'8" SF*
    40. Richard Hendrix, Alabama, 6'8" PF

    RealGM

    10. Danilo Gallinari, Italy, 6'9", PF
    21. Earl Clark, Louisville, 6'8", SF*
    40. D.J. White, Indiana, 6'9", PF

    * Clark has changed his mind and will return to Louisville.
     
  2. Universe

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    Most don't go by team needs like draftexpress. It would be pretty cool to get Rush and Arthur to go along with our Boone and Marcus combo.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Apr 19 2008, 03:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Most don't go by team needs like draftexpress. It would be pretty cool to get Rush and Arthur to go along with our Boone and Marcus combo.</div>
    I'll cry if you get both, seriously, cry of sadness
     
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    I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.
     
  5. cpawfan

    cpawfan Monsters do exist

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    The realBM one is worthless except for its comedic value. It is no different than joe average poster making a mock.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 19 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.</div>

    What do you think about DJ Augistine?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 19 2008, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 19 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.</div>

    What do you think about DJ Augistine?
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    IMO hes a tj ford kind player no?
     
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    That was a genuine question, I really don't know what type of PG he is. PG/Wing doesn't seem unreasonable if Marcus is traded, but it would have to be under the provision that we get a new 2nd string PG that's significantly better than Marcus

    Also, in before "but anyone is better than Marcus"
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 19 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 19 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.</div>

    What do you think about DJ Augistine?
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    I've only seen him a few times on TV, of course.

    But from what I've seen, he can run a team. He can lead. He can shoot really good. He's clutch. IMO he's in the top 3 PG in college basketball.

    If he dropped to our lottery spot, assuming we couldn't get Rose, I'd definitely want them picking him up.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 20 2008, 02:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Main Event @ Apr 19 2008, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 19 2008, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of getting 2 wing players. IMO we're so in need of a couple good ones coming off the bench. I'd like to get a PG in there, too.</div>

    What do you think about DJ Augistine?
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    I've only seen him a few times on TV, of course.

    But from what I've seen, he can run a team. He can lead. He can shoot really good. He's clutch. IMO he's in the top 3 PG in college basketball.

    If he dropped to our lottery spot, assuming we couldn't get Rose, I'd definitely want them picking him up.
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    Well if we use our lottery pick to get a PG...Does that mean we trade DH? Or Dont start the rook and put him behind him? Jw.
     
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    DJ was a great college player, but his body type is not going to get by in the NBA. He's listed at 6' 180, but I'd be very surprised if he is 5'10 170.

    Think about it, how many point guards in the league have his body type? TJ Ford? I can't really think of anyone else. DJ has top 10 talent and he'll be a first rounder, but he shouldn't be drafted before 15. I could see him slipping to, or past, our second pick. But we'll see.
     
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    My money's on Westbrook, Budinger, or CDR. Wouldn't be surprised if the Nets move down to get CDR, even though he's not a great shooter.
     
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    NetIncome, which mock website historically has the highest % of nailing it correctly?
    Thanks.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Belarus @ Apr 20 2008, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>NetIncome, which mock website historically has the highest % of nailing it correctly?
    Thanks.</div>

    That's a hard question to answer, because it just takes one surprise pick to turn everything upside-down--remember a few years ago when everyone expected Gerald Green to go #3 or #4, and he fell out of the lottery? Not to mention the unexpected trades that can mess with superceding picks.

    The mocks right now don't really take into account team needs. In my opinion, teams will usually take the best available player for the first 8-10 picks, and then after that they either take the best available; the player with the most "potential" and "upside", or try to fill a team need, depending on their individual management philosophy. I think Sacaramento is the team that will only draft someone that they have worked out, so you can kind of narrow down their picks by elimionating players that refused to work out for them.

    The Nets will tell you that they will take the "best available player," but I don't think that is true (although it might be if they ever get a top 7 or top 8 pick). I think they look to fill a need, and also make it a point that young players don't compete directly with other young players (in other words, they don't draft someone at the same position as a guy they took in the first round the prior year). The thing is, after the top five or ten picks or so, you can make an argument for a number of guys as the "best available player," and surely one will fill a need. It's obvious what their need is right now.

    The Nets have a history of NOT taking a young kid. They've never taken a HS player or a college freshman (the exceptions being the Euros that were always intended to go back to Europe for a year or two--Krstic, and Ilic). More than age, though, the Nets really want a player that can contribute IMMEDIATELY--they don't want to pay someone to develop skills while sitting on the bench, and then watch them become a free agent just when they are becoming good. The only real exception to this was last year, when they took someone who they admitted they didn't think would be able to contribute immediately.

    Throw in their other preferences--team player, unselfish, usually plays decent defense, tall for their position, from a major school in a major conference, etc., and you're left with Budinger, Westbrook, and CDR as the most likely selections. Most of the other players projected to go in the top 15 (other than the top four or five) are described as great athletes, with tremendous potential, but raw and need time to develop. I just can't see the Nets taking one of them. I can't see them taking a big man that needs time to develop unless they trade Sean before the draft occurs--there's no way they'd carry two such players, not since they intend to try to contend next year (as opposed to three years from now). I also can't see them selecting a 5'11" PG.

    Budinger, Westbrook, or CDR. If they keep the pick. Get used to it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Apr 20 2008, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>My money's on Westbrook, Budinger, or CDR. Wouldn't be surprised if the Nets move down to get CDR, even though he's not a great shooter.</div>

    Do you realize how not good Westbrook really is?
     
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    earl clark aint coming out...either way i want brandon rush with the 21rst
     
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    i want westbrook too.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 20 2008, 11:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i want westbrook too.</div>

    So were you a big Marcus Banks fan pre-draft as well?
     
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    Thanks, Dumpy! It is hard to predict exact draft choice of 30 teams. But, If I'm not mistaken, DraftExpress was the only who predicted us taking SW in 2007 draft. So, following the logic we'll take Jordan in 2008.
     
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    That draft express one looks pretty nice. I like DA but he's the only one I really watched play this past season. I saw Walker in the tournament and he had some real nice flashes too.

    While I understand the allure of a 7 footer this paragraph from DE tunrs me off:

    "Offensively, Jordan is still extremely raw, displaying unpolished footwork, having a tough time establishing position for himself in the post, and clearly struggling finishing through any type of contact, even against very average competition at times. He has a difficult time holding his spot on the block, lacking a great deal of core strength and balance, and therefore often preferring to fade away from his matchup softly rather than go up strong at the rim. He lacks fundamentals on this end of the floor, not really knowing how to set proper screens, blowing open dunks at times, and not possessing any real counter moves or a left hand to speak of at the moment. The abysmal 40% he shoots from the free throw line tells you all you need to know about his shooting range, while the five turnovers he commits for every one assist makes him the second worst player in our entire database in that category, and speaks volumes about where he is at in terms of his court awareness and overall feel for the game."

    On a team where the offense is based off of reads and already has limited post play i'm not sure this is the right guy for us. While it might be high to pick him at 10, I think CDR would be really nice fit on this squad even if it is another wing player.
     

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