Other Dallas Draft Tidbits

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  1. Vintage

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    Overcome With Joy
    South Florida's Mike Jenkins had "scratched" the Cowboys from his list of potential destinations once they agreed in principle to trade for Pacman Jones, so the phone call from Jerry Jones admittedly came as a surprise.
    Not just for Jenkins, but his mother, Kathy, who fainted and was taken to a hospital after the Cowboys selected him with the No. 25 pick. "She's OK," said Jenkins, who held a draft party for family and friends on Saturday. "She was just happy."
    - Nick Eatman

    For the Conspiracy Theorists who believe Jerry is the sole decision-maker:

    In a Press Conference, Jerry said he wanted to move up in the 2nd round to take Bennett. He tried to convince others to do it, but the scouts, Wade, and Stephen told him no. So.... we waited. And got Bennett anyway. While I do think if you like someone a lot, you should move up.... this goes to show you that Jerry, while he has final say, doesn't do everything he wants.
     
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    One of the more intriguing draft picks for the Cowboys is Boise State cornerback Orlando Scandrick, who was selected Sunday in the fifth round after skipping his senior season.

    Scandrick's stock rose after he ran the 40-yard dash at the combine in a blazing 4.32 seconds. But reviews from scouts were mixed, which is probably why he lasted so long.

    Ravens director of college scouting Eri DeCosta was a big fan, telling the Baltimore Sun that the 5-foot-11, 198-pound Scandrick’s cover ability is "very impressive" and that "his best football is ahead of him."

    But DeCosta also noted Scandrick was inconsistent as a tackler, an assessment Pro Football Weekly shared. In fact, the magazine's overall assessment of Scandrick was mostly negative: "Does not play physically. Gives up too many big plays. Not a strong tackler. Very average ball skills. Not a worker. Has a long memory. Is moody and immature. Takes himself out of games. Cannot play with pain."

    Scandrick, though, doesn't lack confidence. Asked why he entered the draft after his junior season, he said, "I felt good about my athletic ability." He also said his athleticism was a big reason why he blocked a school-record four blocked kicks last season.
     
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    Jeez, Jones likes the CB's eh. Well, these are good picks, so we don't lose if they don't turn out to be that amazing.

    Lol at Jenkins mom.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 27 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, Jones likes the CB's eh. Well, these are good picks, so we don't lose if they don't turn out to be that amazing.

    Lol at Jenkins mom.</div>

    Last year, we had an injured Newman, injured Henry, Reeves, Nate Jones, Ogelsby, and rookie Alan Ball (who only played in the Was. game at the end of the year)

    Now we have Newman, Henry, Pacman, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Ball.

    Depth, talent, speed (sans Henry), and a blend of youth and experience.

    We turned an area of weakness into a true strength. I am all for that.

    And we did that at RB too, with Jones and Choice.... really, the only position we lack some nice prospects at is now WR... Owens, Glenn, and Crayton are getting up there.... we have Austin and Hurd who haven't really proven much. And we do have an intriguing prospect in Stanback. I really expect to see Dallas make a strong push for a veteran WR or come next year's draft, package picks to get an elite WR talent.

    Bec. we have good prospects on the OL, RB, TE on offense... we have a good QB. Defensively, we are young and deep at DL. At LBer, we are pretty set.... and now at CB we are good. Really, only S and WR could there be question marks next year... and I think having all of those picks plus with the draft we just had, we'll be able to focus on those positions...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Apr 27 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 27 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, Jones likes the CB's eh. Well, these are good picks, so we don't lose if they don't turn out to be that amazing.

    Lol at Jenkins mom.</div>

    Last year, we had an injured Newman, injured Henry, Reeves, Nate Jones, Ogelsby, and rookie Alan Ball (who only played in the Was. game at the end of the year)

    Now we have Newman, Henry, Pacman, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Ball.

    Depth, talent, speed (sans Henry), and a blend of youth and experience.

    We turned an area of weakness into a true strength. I am all for that.

    </div>

    For sure, Jones had a great draft so far. He didn't just say Pacman is the one to change our defense. He went out and got great young players who are the future of the Cowboys.

    I'd like to know more about Ball, because I haven't heard to much about him.

    I like Felix as a RB behind Barber. It's about time Marion got his chance to start and he's always been in the top 10 RB's for TD. He'll have a great season next year (I hope) with all the touches he'll be getting. Plus, Jones will get some touches, but he won't be taking over just yet.

    Like you said, we have great prospects all around our team, but we need a S and WR. I really hope Stanback can crack our roster and get some time. I really want to make a push for Roy Williams or Chad Johnson. I think with the number of draft picks and young guys we have, Jones can make it happen.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 27 2008, 07:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Apr 27 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 27 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, Jones likes the CB's eh. Well, these are good picks, so we don't lose if they don't turn out to be that amazing.

    Lol at Jenkins mom.</div>

    Last year, we had an injured Newman, injured Henry, Reeves, Nate Jones, Ogelsby, and rookie Alan Ball (who only played in the Was. game at the end of the year)

    Now we have Newman, Henry, Pacman, Jenkins, Scandrick, and Ball.

    Depth, talent, speed (sans Henry), and a blend of youth and experience.

    We turned an area of weakness into a true strength. I am all for that.

    </div>

    For sure, Jones had a great draft so far. He didn't just say Pacman is the one to change our defense. He went out and got great young players who are the future of the Cowboys.

    I'd like to know more about Bal, because I haven't heard to much about him.
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    He was a 4 yr starter at Illinois...

    He's pretty skinny, but supposedly has bulked up some. Newman was talking about him in high terms this offseason, FWIW. We brought him to the 53 man roster the last game of the year bec. Wade was impressed with his development.

    Dunno if he'll actually turn into something (like a solid dimeback type or not), but he is another young player in the mix.
     
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    Okay thanks. I hope he did bulk up, because last year I saw big problems with our CB making big tackles aside from Newman.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 27 2008, 07:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay thanks. I hope he did bulk up, because last year I saw big problems with our CB making big tackles aside from Newman.</div>


    Yeah. Reeves just generally sucked, in general. Ditto on Nate Jones.

    Henry was hurt and I think that hampered him. He's a physical CB and he generally is a good tackler. But for whatever reason, he wasn't last year. I think a lot of that had to do with him being injured.

    The good news is, we got true cover guys like Jenkins, Pacman, and that Scandrick kid. This will allow us to play a lot more man coverage and move Roy closer to the LOS (which we couldn't do bec. of injuries and inept play from Nate and Jacques).

    Also, Ayodele and James aren't good cover LBers. Zach Thomas is. And Carpenter is too.... I think you'll seen an improvement from our ILBs in coverage (which was a problem last year as well). Also, Spencer is a lot better in coverage than Ellis.

    This defense has a LOT of potential next year.


    Also, Dave Campo is our secondary coach. While he was a horrible head coach, he is a good secondary coach and is great at teaching technique. This bodes well for a lot of the young CBs we now have.
     
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    I looked over some game film of our season last year and I really think Sam Hurd has a chance to make an impact on offense, more so than he did last year (hello, Giants). Of course depending on how Felix (and even Martellus) are used, we might not even need to see a big improvement from Stanback or Austin
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 27 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I looked over some game film of our season last year and I really think Sam Hurd has a chance to make an impact on offense, more so than he did last year (hello, Giants). Of course depending on how Felix (and even Martellus) are used, we might not even need to see a big improvement from Stanback or Austin</div>


    Really? I have never been overly impressed with Hurd other than he seems to have good hands. But I haven't re-watched game tape, so I dunno.

    I really like Austin's potential. He's shown he can go up there for the ball and have body control..... and he has the size and athleticism that you want in a WR.... and he has speed. But he's really raw in route running and his hands are inconsistent. If he could put it together, I think we'd have a nice WR...


    Jerry and Wade keep talking about Stanback. Wade said Stanback lost some weight and is more cut. That's impressive bec. he is already jacked. And they love his playmaking ability; he has some nice vision and running ability (as in, running with the ball). They are really excited about him..... and so am I.

    I think that's partially the reason we didn't go WR. There wasn't a lot of value where we were picking and I don't think they thought anyone they'd draft would be an improvement over what Stanback is going to offer next year... and I think they believe Glenn is coming back as well. If this all happens, we'll have depth at WR with Owens, Glenn, Crayton, and Stanback... of course, age is an issue and we'll have do something at WR soon, but for next year, we'll be fine.
     

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