<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 29 2008, 08:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Apr 29 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>For the last time, KG did nothing to earn the technical, it was Zaza who went after KG and headbutted him, not the other way around. Watch the video again, since you posted it. Keep hating though, it's great for your health. </div> What are you talking about? First of all, KG pushed Zaza away, hit him in the face with his forearm AFTER the foul was called, and the whistle was blown. And even after Zaza got off him, too. And then, the ref was holding KG back. KG pushed his arm down. The ref continued to try to hold KG, and he pushed the ref away again. And he keeps pushing away the refs. It starts at :12, really look at it. If you aren't seeing that, then I really have to question your homerism. </div> Pegs, watch the replay. He didn't hit him in the face. He pushes his hand away, because as KG is shoving him off, you can see Zaza's hand flying away (~0:08) He was holding KG for like 3 seconds. Look at the closer replay around 0:56. He has his hand on KG's shoulder and ends up pushing him away when Garnett has the perfect position for the rebound. At 0:12 like you mentioned, he's being held back by refs. He doesn't see who's holding him. After he realizes who it was, he lets the ref drag him away. All the time Zaza is trying to get back into the fight. He held KG and got shoved off. There was no reason for him to pull the pussy move and escalate the fight.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 30 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You cant touch a ref. Im suprised he wasnt thrown out of that game.</div> He didn't touch the ref. The ref touched him -- grabbing him from behind . Initiating contact with a ref during the game (bc you dispute a call etc) and being held back by a ref during an altercation are two completely different things. That's not the first or last time a ref has held back a player during an altercation, it's part of their job.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 29 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I also don't get how Boston have been yapping their big mouths all series, but when the Hawks get in their face they take it all seriously. Like we're supposed to show them some respect.</div> The Celtics have been yapping their mouths all series?! Mike Bibby, who plays for the Hawks, called Celtic fans a bunch of bandwagoners. If he at all knew what he was talking about, we would know that for the two seasons prior to this one, when the team won a total of 57 games, the Garden was sold out or close to it night in and night out. The fans have always been here. Phillips Arena, on the other hand, had never even been half full before the playoffs. And Bibby has the nerve to call us bandwagoners. This whole thread has been about Zaza Pachulia overreacting to an inadvertant elbow that wasn't meant to hurt anyone. The Hawks have been hot-dogging all series. The HAWKS are the team acting like a bunch of unprofessional punks, and I honestly can't wait to beat the living hell out of every single member of their team tonight to put them in their place once and for all. The Celtics have been a refined, professional team all series and only came to the defense of their teammate when that Euro came in and got in his face because his panties were all wadded up over a stray elbow that wasn't meant for anyone.
the people behind the nba office are truly annoying. just leave the games alone. stop suspending people especially when they suspended amare and some key players last year that lost suns the series. stupid businessmen dont know shit about basketball.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 30 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You cant touch a ref. Im suprised he wasnt thrown out of that game.</div> He didn't touch the ref. The ref touched him -- grabbing him from behind . Initiating contact with a ref during the game (bc you dispute a call etc) and being held back by a ref during an altercation are two completely different things. That's not the first or last time a ref has held back a player during an altercation, it's part of their job. </div> Yeah, but you're wrong. The ref's allowed to hold back players during an altercation - that's their jobs. Garnett is not, however, allowed to put his hands on a ref and push the ref away.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 30 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 30 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You cant touch a ref. Im suprised he wasnt thrown out of that game.</div> He didn't touch the ref. The ref touched him -- grabbing him from behind . Initiating contact with a ref during the game (bc you dispute a call etc) and being held back by a ref during an altercation are two completely different things. That's not the first or last time a ref has held back a player during an altercation, it's part of their job. </div> Yeah, but you're wrong. The ref's allowed to hold back players during an altercation - that's their jobs. Garnett is not, however, allowed to put his hands on a ref and push the ref away. </div> I'm pretty certain Garnett's not the first or the only player to have tried to escape from a ref's grasp. I'd be surprised if most people didn't try it. On the other hand, if you're that certain that rules go that deep in explanation, can you link me?
Boston is gonna lose the series. all the fame and cockyness is gonna lose agains the hunger of the atlanta hawks. thats all..............
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 30 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 30 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You cant touch a ref. Im suprised he wasnt thrown out of that game.</div> He didn't touch the ref. The ref touched him -- grabbing him from behind . Initiating contact with a ref during the game (bc you dispute a call etc) and being held back by a ref during an altercation are two completely different things. That's not the first or last time a ref has held back a player during an altercation, it's part of their job. </div> Yeah, but you're wrong. The ref's allowed to hold back players during an altercation - that's their jobs. Garnett is not, however, allowed to put his hands on a ref and push the ref away. </div> I'm pretty certain Garnett's not the first or the only player to have tried to escape from a ref's grasp. I'd be surprised if most people didn't try it. On the other hand, if you're that certain that rules go that deep in explanation, can you link me? </div> http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html?nav=ArticleList <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official (2) Physically contacting an official (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call (4) Use of profanity (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved (7) Taunting</div> Garnett should've been thrown out
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz @ Apr 30 2008, 12:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ Apr 29 2008, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I also don't get how Boston have been yapping their big mouths all series, but when the Hawks get in their face they take it all seriously. Like we're supposed to show them some respect.</div> The Celtics have been yapping their mouths all series?! Mike Bibby, who plays for the Hawks, called Celtic fans a bunch of bandwagoners. If he at all knew what he was talking about, we would know that for the two seasons prior to this one, when the team won a total of 57 games, the Garden was sold out or close to it night in and night out. The fans have always been here. Phillips Arena, on the other hand, had never even been half full before the playoffs. And Bibby has the nerve to call us bandwagoners. This whole thread has been about Zaza Pachulia overreacting to an inadvertant elbow that wasn't meant to hurt anyone. The Hawks have been hot-dogging all series. The HAWKS are the team acting like a bunch of unprofessional punks, and I honestly can't wait to beat the living hell out of every single member of their team tonight to put them in their place once and for all. The Celtics have been a refined, professional team all series and only came to the defense of their teammate when that Euro came in and got in his face because his panties were all wadded up over a stray elbow that wasn't meant for anyone. </div> Beat the living hell? Big words for a guys who's team was suppose to sweep the Hawks. Oh and his panties were all wadded up? I'm sure not backing down means you're a pussy right? That just because the other teams best player shoves you with an elbow you should back down because he needs superstar treatment? No, Zaza did what he thought he should do. He never threw a punch, he just pushed KG back and that's like saying "I'm not gonna take your shit". Oh and since he's Euro that's worse right? Like if Horford did it, it would be different? But because Zaza is "Euro" and he barley plays then he retaliates to something, he's bad? He didn't back down, he stood up. Get over it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 30 2008, 04:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 30 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Apr 30 2008, 12:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ Apr 30 2008, 04:41 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You cant touch a ref. Im suprised he wasnt thrown out of that game.</div> He didn't touch the ref. The ref touched him -- grabbing him from behind . Initiating contact with a ref during the game (bc you dispute a call etc) and being held back by a ref during an altercation are two completely different things. That's not the first or last time a ref has held back a player during an altercation, it's part of their job. </div> Yeah, but you're wrong. The ref's allowed to hold back players during an altercation - that's their jobs. Garnett is not, however, allowed to put his hands on a ref and push the ref away. </div> I'm pretty certain Garnett's not the first or the only player to have tried to escape from a ref's grasp. I'd be surprised if most people didn't try it. On the other hand, if you're that certain that rules go that deep in explanation, can you link me? </div> http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html?nav=ArticleList <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>d. A technical foul shall be assessed for unsportsmanlike tactics such as: (1) Disrespectfully addressing an official (2) Physically contacting an official (3) Overt actions indicating resentment to a call (4) Use of profanity (5) A coach entering onto the court without permission of an official (6) A deliberately-thrown elbow or any attempted physical act with no con-tact involved (7) Taunting</div> Garnett should've been thrown out </div> I don't think so. "Physically contacting an official" implies initiation of contact by the player. Garnett didn't initiate contact, the ref did. Garnett never disrespected a ref. As I said, after he saw it was a ref holding him, he let himself get taken away. Plus, this section deals with a (1) technical foul. One technical doesn't equal an ejection. Where are you getting an ejection from?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 30 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Beat the living hell? Big words for a guys who's team was suppose to sweep the Hawks. Oh and his panties were all wadded up? I'm sure not backing down means you're a pussy right? That just because the other teams best player shoves you with an elbow you should back down because he needs superstar treatment? No, Zaza did what he thought he should do. He never threw a punch, he just pushed KG back and that's like saying "I'm not gonna take your shit". Oh and since he's Euro that's worse right? Like if Horford did it, it would be different? But because Zaza is "Euro" and he barley plays then he retaliates to something, he's bad? He didn't back down, he stood up. Get over it.</div> It was an inadvertent elbow buddy. He wasn't trying to kill Pachulia, he wasn't even trying to hit him. Zaza made a big deal out of nothing. And the reason I bought up the Euro thing is because so many players in the league that come from Europe are softies and flop all over the court just to get calls.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz @ May 5 2008, 12:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ Apr 30 2008, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Beat the living hell? Big words for a guys who's team was suppose to sweep the Hawks. Oh and his panties were all wadded up? I'm sure not backing down means you're a pussy right? That just because the other teams best player shoves you with an elbow you should back down because he needs superstar treatment? No, Zaza did what he thought he should do. He never threw a punch, he just pushed KG back and that's like saying "I'm not gonna take your shit". Oh and since he's Euro that's worse right? Like if Horford did it, it would be different? But because Zaza is "Euro" and he barley plays then he retaliates to something, he's bad? He didn't back down, he stood up. Get over it.</div> It was an inadvertent elbow buddy. He wasn't trying to kill Pachulia, he wasn't even trying to hit him. Zaza made a big deal out of nothing. And the reason I bought up the Euro thing is because so many players in the league that come from Europe are softies and flop all over the court just to get calls. </div> "Inadvertent"? That was on purpose, buddy. He was trying to hit him. He actually did hit him.
