Holy ****ing damn: Breaking News on outside the lines on ESPN (haven't been able to find an article yet so I'll give the gist of what I heard). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tuesday at 5:00 pm in North Philly (I believe), the following occurred: Marvin Harrison fist fought a patron who he had problems with, then it escalated. Marvin Harrison legally owns 25 guns (but that's still seems kind of crazy). Marvin Harrison was involved in a shooting, and has hit at least one by-stander in the shoulder. A little girl was also hit by breaking glass; Police are waiting to confirm this report. Marvin denies shooting anyone, but there seem to witnesses that will soon collaborate their stories with the police, and they supposedly finger Harrison. It was his gun that was proven and the one that fired 50-caliber bullets (they proved it with a ballistic test). I think Marvin has also had some problems with other people in the past before, and got into some sort of lawsuit for choking someone. He doesn't seem very clean cut right now. I hope no one was seriously injured. The man who was getting shot at had previously done ten years in jail (I forget the charge but it was a violent crime), and he was not injured aside from getting his hand grazed by a bullet. Marvin will probably get charged with something because in Philly there is a law stating the owner of a gun involved in a crime will automatically get in trouble (misdemeanor) . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Relating this back to the Colts: Looks like the Colts need to add some WR depth, I'm not too worried (I like Anthony Gonzalez). Please God sign some people right now though Indy. It doesn't look good for Marvin, I'd cut him soon anyway just for being overpaid and troubling me like this. Stay the **** healthy and out of fights like this. What Garbage.
Pretty crazy. For like a decade now ESPN has been riding this guys jock because hes such a nice, quiet guy compared to Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, etc. The thing is ESPN blows up those guys' bad attitudes beyond reality. None of those guys are EVER in trouble with police, they just like to talk a lot. This is looking pretty legit and if true I doubt Marvin ever plays in the NFL again. Look at what Pacman got and all he was charged with was relatively minor offenses (if he got convicted at all, I can't remember). Marvin should get minimum one year suspension and he'll probably be in jail well over a year anyway. It was nice watching you Marvin Harrison. You crazy, crazy bastard.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 2 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pretty crazy. For like a decade now ESPN has been riding this guys jock because hes such a nice, quiet guy compared to Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, etc. The thing is ESPN blows up those guys' bad attitudes beyond reality. None of those guys are EVER in trouble with police, they just like to talk a lot. This is looking pretty legit and if true I doubt Marvin ever plays in the NFL again. Look at what Pacman got and all he was charged with was relatively minor offenses (if he got convicted at all, I can't remember). Marvin should get minimum one year suspension and he'll probably be in jail well over a year anyway. It was nice watching you Marvin Harrison. You crazy, crazy bastard.</div> That's exactly it, none of the dickheads on ESPN know who these people are. I make a couple of statements in a press conference and ESPN thinks they have me all figured out. It's horribly naive of them, and this is a perfect example.
He's always been one of my favourite receivers, but I agree, professionalism/classiness on the field doesn't necessarily equate to the same off of it (and vice versa).
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 2 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 2 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pretty crazy. For like a decade now ESPN has been riding this guys jock because hes such a nice, quiet guy compared to Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, etc. The thing is ESPN blows up those guys' bad attitudes beyond reality. None of those guys are EVER in trouble with police, they just like to talk a lot. This is looking pretty legit and if true I doubt Marvin ever plays in the NFL again. Look at what Pacman got and all he was charged with was relatively minor offenses (if he got convicted at all, I can't remember). Marvin should get minimum one year suspension and he'll probably be in jail well over a year anyway. It was nice watching you Marvin Harrison. You crazy, crazy bastard.</div> That's exactly it, none of the dickheads on ESPN know who these people are. I make a couple of statements in a press conference and ESPN thinks they have me all figured out. It's horribly naive of them, and this is a perfect example. </div> Totally. I hate to bring up random OT team biases but it pisses me off to see the ESPN analysts rip on the Raiders constantly for being punks or not classy yet theres basically no one on the team that has actually done anything bad off the field (nor on the field but thats a different story). The only thing that comes to mind is the kicker Janikowski who got into a couple bar fights a few years back. I was just watching the Jim Rome show, don't ask me why, and he said some stupid comment like "you need 3 arrests to be allowed onto the Raiders". WTF. Everyone on the team is a choir boy if you're going off of arrests or suspensions.
New articles: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Report: Harrison investigated in shooting outside bar ESPN.com news services Updated: May 2, 2008, 5:01 PM ET Indianapolis Colts wide receiver Marvin Harrison is under investigation in his hometown of Philadelphia in a shooting that took place earlier this week, a source close to the investigation told Anthony Gargano of Philadelphia's WIP Radio. The shooting reportedly occurred early Tuesday afternoon outside a North Philadelphia bar owned by Harrison. Harrison has yet to be arrested or charged with the crime. "I just walked off the practice field [at rookie minicamp] and heard about the incident, and that's all I know," Colts coach Tony Dungy said Friday. "We're obviously going to look into it. I haven't spoken to Marvin yet." Calls by ESPN to Harrison and his agent have not been returned. NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said the league was "aware of the report, and we are looking into it." The source said the alleged victim came into the bar, Playmakers, around 5 p.m. and engaged in an argument with Harrison, who was at the bar. The victim then left the bar, heading to his car, with Harrison following. Gunfire broke out, the victim was hit in the hand, and a young girl was slightly injured by flying glass from a car that apparently was hit by a bullet. Marvin Harrison Harrison Police came to scene, but the victim did not identify a shooter. On Wednesday, according to the source, ballistic tests showed that the gun that had fired the shots was a custom-made Belgian weapon, and police determined that Harrison owned such a gun. Police then went to a Philadelphia car wash owned by Harrison to question him about the gun. Harrison admitted owning such a weapon, but claimed it never left his suburban Philadelphia home. However, the source said the gun was discovered in a bucket at the car wash, and tests showed that it had fired seven bullets that matched those found at the scene. The source said police were contacted Friday by an attorney representing a second alleged victim in the shooting, and police are now waiting for that individual to come forward.</div> http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3378829 The last parts are the most disturbing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 2 2008, 03:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 2 2008, 03:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 2 2008, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Pretty crazy. For like a decade now ESPN has been riding this guys jock because hes such a nice, quiet guy compared to Randy Moss, TO, Chad Johnson, Keyshawn Johnson, etc. The thing is ESPN blows up those guys' bad attitudes beyond reality. None of those guys are EVER in trouble with police, they just like to talk a lot. This is looking pretty legit and if true I doubt Marvin ever plays in the NFL again. Look at what Pacman got and all he was charged with was relatively minor offenses (if he got convicted at all, I can't remember). Marvin should get minimum one year suspension and he'll probably be in jail well over a year anyway. It was nice watching you Marvin Harrison. You crazy, crazy bastard.</div> That's exactly it, none of the dickheads on ESPN know who these people are. I make a couple of statements in a press conference and ESPN thinks they have me all figured out. It's horribly naive of them, and this is a perfect example. </div> Totally. I hate to bring up random OT team biases but it pisses me off to see the ESPN analysts rip on the Raiders constantly for being punks or not classy yet theres basically no one on the team that has actually done anything bad off the field (nor on the field but thats a different story). The only thing that comes to mind is the kicker Janikowski who got into a couple bar fights a few years back. I was just watching the Jim Rome show, don't ask me why, and he said some stupid comment like "you need 3 arrests to be allowed onto the Raiders". WTF. Everyone on the team is a choir boy if you're going off of arrests or suspensions. </div> Nowdays & sadly, its all about someelse's perception of your image. Lastly, I'll wait this latest drama out rather than personally jump to conclusions. As for the jounailists, I recall hearing or reading something awhile back. Journalists love to express moral outrage; it helps them think they are moral e.g. Nancy Grace.
Criminals are idiots, I swear...none of them no how to get rid of evidence the right way. Morons. This guys time in the league was over, anyways.
If Harrison is somehow found not guilty, I would make an apology to anyone. Blackadder is right in that respect, but I really doubt he is innocent based on the ballistic tests and having fought the victim moments prior to the shooting. His Gun is a very unique one made in Belgium.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 15 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, I'd have expected more to be reported on it. I wonder if they have any new developments.</div> I think it's probably not high on the list of things the Philly PD has on its plate at the moment. If you really want to get all conspiracy-esque, what good does anyone get out of locking up one of your town's models of success?
I think I read somewhere that the police just lacked evidence to come to a conviction. I'm guessing the media's ignored it because it'd make them look fairly stupid for how overboard they went when it first came out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jul 15 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think I read somewhere that the police just lacked evidence to come to a conviction. I'm guessing the media's ignored it because it'd make them look fairly stupid for how overboard they went when it first came out.</div> Yeah this seems like precisely the case. The details are so vague though, I'll try to follow up on this in the future.