<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd
I'm unsure about DeAndre. I mean his upside is ridiculous and he has all the ability and tools to be even BETTER than Dwight Howard. But out of the little I've seen from him I just don't see the drive and comitment that Howard had in Jordan. Dwight is a leader who wants to win, the team revolves around him, he loves doing the dirty work like rebounds, and he leaves it all out on the floor each and every night. I just don't see any of that in Jordan. I'm hoping I'm wrong b/c I really haven't seen very much from him but that's just what I see out of him so far.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd </div> No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high. "But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd </div> No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high. "But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh. </div> He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd </div> No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high. "But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh. </div> He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either. </div> Same tools. Everyone loves talking about same tools. Manute Bol had great tools. James White had great tools. So what if he's tall and can dunk, that doesn't mean he's a good basketball player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd </div> No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high. "But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh. </div> He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either. </div> Same tools. Everyone loves talking about same tools. Manute Bol had great tools. James White had great tools. So what if he's tall and can dunk, that doesn't mean he's a good basketball player. </div> I never said he was. I said he has the tools like the players you mentioned to be a good player. Maybe even great. Its up to him and whoever is his coach to get him to that level.
It's correct that you didn't say he was a good basketball player, but isn't that the point? Isn't that what you hope to draft with a top 10 pick? And who cares about physical measurements if they don't use them. It's just not worth the risk of wasting a high pick on this guy. Look at what he's done at Texas A&M, he didn't even start! He's currently a college prospect, not yet a genuine potential NBA player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's correct that you didn't say he was a good basketball player, but isn't that the point? Isn't that what you hope to draft with a top 10 pick? And who cares about physical measurements if they don't use them. It's just not worth the risk of wasting a high pick on this guy. Look at what he's done at Texas A&M, he didn't even start! He's currently a college prospect, not yet a genuine potential NBA player.</div> I agree. ^ Hey im having problems finding any vids of Anthony Randolph from LSU... Help?
nbadraft blows at player comparisons. lets not forget the infamous Deshawn stevenson-Micheal Jordan comparison or Kwame Brown - KG
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 05:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 04:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 04:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 4 2008, 03:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 4 2008, 03:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 3 2008, 06:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if he doesn't work out why would a team trade you anything for him.</div> Maybe the team thats trading for him has different expectations. And we wont trade him for alot i guess. </div> So either you find another team that doesn't follow the NBA, or you admittedly waste a top 10 draft pick... </div> I dont know man thats a risk we may have to take </div> No one's forcing a gun to THRON's head. Jordan won't be the only available player at 10... </div> I know that but if we decide on drafting him. Then we should know that hes a gamble. It could be great, but it also could suck baddd </div> No shit haha, but why take such a huge gamble when there are other quality players available. Although really to say that its a gamble isn't exactly accurate. You can look at a prospect and see where they're at, skill wise. I get the superficial reasons that would cause someone to take a first glance at Jordan, but once you take a look at the player he is I don't see how you can think its a good idea to draft him that high. "But he could become really great, he could become like _______" Ask yourself how you came to that conclusion. What makes you think he could become some great basketball player? Because he's tall? please. Because he can dunk? ugh. </div> He has the same tools as D Howard did when he came into the league. Except work ethic and dedication. Im not saying we should draft him. But we shouldn't dismiss the idea either. </div> Same tools. Everyone loves talking about same tools. Manute Bol had great tools. James White had great tools. So what if he's tall and can dunk, that doesn't mean he's a good basketball player. </div> I never said he was. I said he has the tools like the players you mentioned to be a good player. Maybe even great. Its up to him and whoever is his coach to get him to that level. </div> Uhm, no he doesn't. He has absolutely no timing on D, he blows defensive assignments, and if you watch him, even in the highlights, he's plain slow. It takes him years to get into the air. Howard gets up in half a second.
id take love over jordan im sorry... and doesnt even work hard? so hes satisfied with being medicore...
This is actually DeAndre's claim to fame...a KG-type putback of a miss...made possible by Jordan's defender boxing out his own teammate instead of DeAndre...lol <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RGW0zoGGpvQ&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RGW0zoGGpvQ&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div>
Has a true "project center" EVER become a star? People throw around names like D Howard, Amare, Chandler, Bynum, etc but those guys were consensus top-5 prospects coming out of HS, not slow, uncoordinated, mistake-prone projects. No thanks.
Um...why are people still enamored with this guy? What's the deal? On one end, I'm seeing that we should stay away from him. On the other end, I'm seeing him being a top 5 pick. I am confused.
Well we were memorized by Sean Williams who was older and could only block shots so I see where the love is coming from.
I want a player that is at worst a solid rotation guy whose current upside is a solid starter. I don't want a guy who's upside is potential superstar and at worst not even in the league in 2 or 3 years. Those solid guys can always be combined and get you a superstar (like the Celtics did). I also wouldn't mind a team with all solid guys like the Pistons. Trying to hit homeruns with draft picks only puts you in a bad place when they don't work out. Can't trade them and you're left with nothing. DeAndre Jordan has way to much downside to risk the upside. And the Nets don't have that kind of freedom right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 28 2008, 11:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He can DUNK! Like the stroshow!</div> He is starting to sound rather similar to Stro. Extremely high upside, super athletic, but very raw and doesn't show passion....hmmmm...I'd stay clear too
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jirohkanzaki @ May 6 2008, 08:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is actually DeAndre's claim to fame...a KG-type putback of a miss...made possible by Jordan's defender boxing out his own teammate instead of DeAndre...lol <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/RGW0zoGGpvQ&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/RGW0zoGGpvQ&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div></div> Man....I remember that KG throw-down! Damn...that was the sickest sh*t!!!!
