Series Thread: #2 Detroit Pistons Vs #3 Orlando Magic

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  1. BasX

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    <div align="center"><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Gm. 1: Sat., May 3: at Detroit, 7:30 p.m. ET (TNT)
    Gm. 2: Mon., May 5: at Detroit, 7:00 p.m. ET (TNT)
    Gm. 3: Wed., May 7: at Orlando, 8:00 p.m. ET (TNT)
    Gm. 4: Sat., May 10: at Orlando, TBD (TBD)
    Gm. 5*: Tue., May 13: at Detroit, TBD (TNT)
    Gm. 6*: Thu., May 15: at Orlando, TBD (ESPN)
    Gm. 7*: Sun., May 18: at Detroit, TBD (TBD)
    *if necessary</div></div>
     
  2. hustler

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  3. Jonah

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    So Dwight absolutely dominates Toronto with 22/18/4 but he can't get a double-double against Detroit. Good work by the Detroit big guys
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jonah @ May 3 2008, 10:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So Dwight absolutely dominates Toronto with 22/18/4 but he can't get a double-double against Detroit. Good work by the Detroit big guys</div>
    He had 5 boards and 3 blocks (dont remember pts) somewhere in the middle of 2nd quarter. That thumb must have bothered him more than he let on.
     
  5. pegs

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    Wow, Detroit totally cheated.

    That's why they call it "home court advantage" [​IMG]
     
  6. huevonkiller

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    Wow, the Pistons got a free three points at the end of the quarter. The guys on TNT timed the play and found out it should not have counted. At least 5.22 seconds came off the clock and there was 5.1 or so left.

    Dooling got called for incidental contact at the end of the game too. It also didn't help that the Magic lost the ball foolishly in the fourth (Lewis in the final moments for example).

    Boston and Detroit don't look so dominant now.
     
  7. huevonkiller

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>AUBURN HILLS, Mich. – Referees Steve Javie, Joe Forte and Derrick Stafford stood in a small circle off to the side of the key and, amid the dancing girls, stadium rock and complaints from the Orlando Magic bench, tried to figure out the impossible – just how long is a tenth of a second?

    The game clock at the end of the third quarter of Game 2 of the Orlando-Detroit series had inexplicably stopped with 4.8 seconds left.

    None of the officials noticed it Monday night. So while the quarter’s final 4.8 seconds weren’t running, the Pistons’ Chauncey Billups dribbled up the court, passed the ball, got it back and then drained a three-pointer to give Detroit a 78-76 lead.

    Could he do all that in 4.8 seconds? Javie, Forte and Stafford kept discussing it. They took turns talking. They took turns listening. They took turns waving their hands, pointing their fingers and crossing their arms.

    What they didn’t do was go over to the scorer’s table, have TNT cue the television replay and run a stop watch – which would have shown the play took 5.2 seconds – to get it correct.

    Instead they guesstimated because NBA rules prohibited them from consulting anything from the television to a sun dial.


    “They estimated how much time and they estimated 4.6 seconds,” Orlando coach Stan Van Gundy said.


    How convenient.

    “It’s almost funny,” said Van Gundy, who saw no humor in the fact that those critical three points factored greatly in the Pistons’ tight, back-and-forth 100-93 victory. Or that Detroit now owns a 2-0 lead in the Eastern Conference semifinals.

    Van Gundy broke into a little acting, playing the roles of two of the refs.

    “How long did that play take?”

    “I don’t know, 4.3? 4.6?”

    Maybe it was funny.

    “(People would say) ‘four or five seconds,’ right?” Van Gundy said, wondering if perhaps he was the only one whose internal clock didn’t have a decimal point.

    NBA commissioner David Stern will go to the wall to defend his referees’ abilities and integrity, but does he really think they can judge a tenth of a second in the middle of madcap action?

    The league is so sensitive to the idea of the stereotypically-biased hometown clock operator that during the playoffs it flies in neutral officials (in this case Minnesota) to run the thing. The NBA thinks of everything. But it never thought to equip its refs with an old-school stopwatch, new-fangled timing device or the ability to consult a television replay when the shot or game clock inevitably breaks?

    “Our instant replay rule does not account for this action,” NBA spokesman Tim Frank said via email Monday night. “There was not a trigger to permit use of the (television) screen to view clock.”

    League officials might want to write a “trigger” into the rules by Tuesday morning. The NBA was founded in 1946; this is the first time something like this happened?

    “They have no timing device to do it,” Van Gundy said. “Steve (Javie) was frustrated by not having it. He said with the technology they have they should be able to go over and look at that. … They were put in a very tough situation on that call.”

    Javie refused comment to a pool reporter.

    Javie “was frustrated by that,” Van Gundy said. “Probably not quite as much as us.”

    The Magic weren’t blaming the loss on the clock. Not after 19 turnovers, a clueless, forced, critical-possession missed jumper by Hedo Turkoglu and a habit of digging themselves big first-half holes.

    “We can’t blame that for costing us the game,” said Dwight Howard, who exploded for 22 points and 18 rebounds. “We can’t have as many turnovers as we did tonight.”

    NBA fans, however, will certainly find some conspiracy in the result. If not the clock, then a late no-call on Rashard Lewis and a tough, dead-ball foul call on Keyon Dooling for bumping Richard Hamilton with 11.7 seconds left that pretty much iced the victory for Detroit.

    “Just a very, very, very tough loss,” Van Gundy said.

    The Association is sensitive to the annual cries of a fix and this one would be particularly lame. The NBA wants Detroit for TV ratings?

    As ridiculous as the complaints will be, it’s just these howls of protest, just this never-ending rerun of the lowlight (not the highlight) of the game that drives Stern crazy and makes him try to prepare for every last calamity.

    But apparently, and rather amazingly, no one thought of this simple one.

    4.3? 4.6? 5.2?

    “They estimated 4.6 seconds,” Van Gundy said. “What can you do?”

    How about fix the rule?</div>

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgL5...o&type=lgns

    I feel for Orlando.
     
  8. Big Frame

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    If the clock was running Stucky woulda takin the shot. But becouse there was 4.8 secs left when he looked at the clock he passed to the open man.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ May 6 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the clock was running Stucky woulda takin the shot. But becouse there was 4.8 secs left when he looked at the clock he passed to the open man.</div>

    [​IMG] It was ****ing ridiculous. The refs gave that game to Detroit. It's alright though, our guys have confidence and we're gonna even this thing up back in Orlando. You could barely beat us in Detroit, we got this at home.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ May 6 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ May 6 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the clock was running Stucky woulda takin the shot. But becouse there was 4.8 secs left when he looked at the clock he passed to the open man.</div>

    [​IMG] It was ****ing ridiculous. The refs gave that game to Detroit. It's alright though, our guys have confidence and we're gonna even this thing up back in Orlando. You could barely beat us in Detroit, we got this at home.
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    Barely? I dont think the refs gave us the game. It was more of Hedo taking bad shots, Howard and Lewis not able to control the ball.
     
  11. bbwSwish

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ May 6 2008, 02:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ May 6 2008, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Big Frame @ May 6 2008, 05:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the clock was running Stucky woulda takin the shot. But becouse there was 4.8 secs left when he looked at the clock he passed to the open man.</div>

    [​IMG] It was ****ing ridiculous. The refs gave that game to Detroit. It's alright though, our guys have confidence and we're gonna even this thing up back in Orlando. You could barely beat us in Detroit, we got this at home.
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    Barely? I dont think the refs gave us the game. It was more of Hedo taking bad shots, Howard and Lewis not able to control the ball.
    </div>

    I was talking about Game Two. You had the refs on your side and the crowd yet it still came down to the last minute. Take away that Chauncey three pointer or call some of the obvious fouls at the end (Hedo and Lewis drive) and the Magic win that game. The fact that you barely escaped with a win while having everything on your side shows that this team is beatable and I think Orlando can still take them down.
     
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    When it comes to bad/shaky calls in the clutch, that's where you have to point at the other 47 minutes of game-time and blame yourself for letting it come down to that in the first place. But this isn't anything like that. Its far too blatant and if people actually pulled their heads out of their asses, it wouldn't have happened. The Magic should've won this game, no doubt about it. The Pistons were given a gift.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ May 6 2008, 03:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When it comes to bad/shaky calls in the clutch, that's where you have to point at the other 47 minutes of game-time and blame yourself for letting it come down to that in the first place. But this isn't anything like that. Its far too blatant and if people actually pulled their heads out of their asses, it wouldn't have happened. The Magic should've won this game, no doubt about it. The Pistons were given a gift.</div>

    Thank you!
     
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    Who cares, I'll take it anyday.
     
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    Detroit is the dominant team, even though i was looking for Orlando to come out a little stronger in both of the first 2 games. Even with the bad call, the Magic were still in it, and have arguably the best big man in basketball so complaining about the 3 free points just seems like excuse making for an Orlando fan. If Orlando was better than Detroit they would have won. After the wakeup call that the pistons recieved during the first round, i just don't see them losing to Orlando. Detroit 4-1.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ May 6 2008, 04:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>When it comes to bad/shaky calls in the clutch, that's where you have to point at the other 47 minutes of game-time and blame yourself for letting it come down to that in the first place. But this isn't anything like that. Its far too blatant and if people actually pulled their heads out of their asses, it wouldn't have happened. The Magic should've won this game, no doubt about it. The Pistons were given a gift.</div>

    The end of the third aint "Clutch" They had 12 min to overcome that. A halfway decent coach woulda made it US vs Them, and made them come out like gangbusters to start the 4th...Ron Van Jeremy didnt. Plus saying that the Pistons got all the calls is bull. half way thrugh the fourth Team fouls was 4-0 in favor of the Magic.
     
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    Swish loves to complain about the refs [​IMG]

    Refs in general have been bad for the Magic, you could say. But like Chutney said, it's the other 47 minutes you need to look at and you control your destiny in these games.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Master Shake @ May 7 2008, 07:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Swish loves to complain about the refs [​IMG]</div>
    If my team hasnt won a game in the series, I might complain about the refs to [​IMG]
     
  20. bbwSwish

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    Oh come on. You're going to give me shit for complaining about the refs when they spotted the Pistons three points? And Shake, I didn't complain during the Magic-Raptors game three when the calls were atrocious. Any fan in my position would complain right now. The Pistons had an unfair advantage. The Magic would have went into the fourth quarter leading and they would have had momentum but that one bad call took it all away. When Barkley and tons of other analysts are complaining too saying "The Magic got cheated" you know it's not just me. WEEENEED HEELPTOWINN!
     

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