Ok so most people dont like the idea of the Nets drafting Deandre jordan. So here's another prospect from syracuse 6'9 small foward , 20 years old . Some scouts say he reminds them of Rashard Lewis/ marvin williams with better D. Overall very raw and has huge potential. <div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/t;object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xu2O455So0U&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xu2O455So0U&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/t;object width="425" height="355"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/xu2O455So0U&hl=en"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/xu2O455So0U&hl=en" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="355"></embed></object>&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> http://www.nbadraft.net/dontegreeneinterview001.asp
I like Donte Green as a prospect, but he's a guy that needs refinement. I'd rather not wait a couple of years to see a return on a guy this year, and would rather have Rush or CDR, but I wouldn't be pissed if we took him
I think if we want someone who is gonna come in and contribute right away we should trade up for Mayo. The problem is we need a big man and there's really no clear top 5 or even top 10 monster big man prospect. Yeah, there's a bunch of european big men and skinny athletic big men but there's no glass eating beast in the draft. I just hope we don't take a big man that can shoot or can just dunk. I want a Shaq in the paint at Izod Center.
The potential for disaster in this draft, I think, is huge. There are a whole slew of players with similar skills in that 7 to 13 range. Some will turn out to be very good...with probably one turning out to be a real star. And there will be a bust or two or three. The problem is that they are all kids. I looked at one of the mocks the other day and counted the number of teenagers in the first round. There were 12. I take a look at all the mocks, but I usually rely on Chad Ford's Top 100...although I do remember his Darko Fetish and hope he learned his lesson. Ford talks to GM's, scouts, agents, etc., as do the people who run the other draft sites, but I think it is more likely he has the better sources (he is ESPN after all) and the sources are less likely to give him a line of bull (you dont want to screw with ESPN). If you look at his Top 100, which doesn't assign players to teams yet, he likes Anthony Randolph above all the others--Jordan, Greene, Speights, McGhee, Arthur, Gallinari. He also has Koufos listed a lot higher than most of the mocks. And as I have noted ad infinitum, Ford is usally right about where the Nets are going...an early. He is saying it's Jordan right now.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ May 4 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should all wait for pegs to chime in on Mr. Greene.</div> Thank you very much. Now, to start, I'd like to take a look at your comparisons: Marvin Williams? Eh, possibly. He's not nearly as good a kid as Marvin. Probably doesn't have the work ethic, either. Rashard Lewis? Eh. Maybe. Probably the best comparison. Although Rashard actually attempts to play defense, and doesn't do a bad job of it, either. Now, onto the player we're taking a look at; Donte Greene: He seems like an all-for-himself type of player. He doesn't play defense all that good, unless it's to get steals, or blocks. He doesn't put in that extra hustle. Ever. And doesn't rebound really well, unless it's easily in reach. He doesn't post up nearly as much as he should have. In fact, I only remember seeing one game where he actually posted up consistently. The game where they upset Marquette. He jacked up waaay too many stupid, far out shots. Terrible shot selection. Jacked up and missed shots at the worst time. Not clutch at all (Johnny was WAY more clutch ) He's not good at creating for himself, or others. He's got extremely poor dribbling for a player that's on the perimeter so much. He never penetrates, and never gets to the line. Good god, I can't tell you how much I hated that. Oh, and he missed many dunks during the season. Pretty pathetic. Positives: He's tall enough so that he can just pull up from anywhere, with little trouble getting his shot off (this WAS college, though). He's really athletic. He can jump high to get rebounds, and get blocks (when he feels like it). I don't know if this is a "positive", but I'll just add that this was all after the one year of college rule, put into effect by the NBA. There's the possibility that he knew this was a bullshit year, and decided to do whatever he wanted...considering it was one and done for him. His whole demeanor could change as soon as he gets into the NBA. Although, he sure as hell is no Jeff Green, in terms of the type of person he is. To sum all of this up, I would not want Donte Greene on the Nets. He's too much of a headache, and there's too many questions about his game, all-around (especially defensively). Right now, it seems he could turn into another Al Harrington-type. Although, I won't put it against him that he'll be a good player in the future...and I will still root for him in the NBA.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 4 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ May 4 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we should all wait for pegs to chime in on Mr. Greene.</div> Thank you very much. Now, to start, I'd like to take a look at your comparisons: Marvin Williams? Eh, possibly. He's not nearly as good a kid as Marvin. Probably doesn't have the work ethic, either. Rashard Lewis? Eh. Maybe. Probably the best comparison. Although Rashard actually attempts to play defense, and doesn't do a bad job of it, either. Now, onto the player we're taking a look at; Donte Greene: He seems like an all-for-himself type of player. He doesn't play defense all that good, unless it's to get steals, or blocks. He doesn't put in that extra hustle. Ever. And doesn't rebound really well, unless it's easily in reach. He doesn't post up nearly as much as he should have. In fact, I only remember seeing one game where he actually posted up consistently. The game where they upset Marquette. He jacked up waaay too many stupid, far out shots. Terrible shot selection. Jacked up and missed shots at the worst time. Not clutch at all (Johnny was WAY more clutch ) He's not good at creating for himself, or others. He's got extremely poor dribbling for a player that's on the perimeter so much. He never penetrates, and never gets to the line. Good god, I can't tell you how much I hated that. Oh, and he missed many dunks during the season. Pretty pathetic. Positives: He's tall enough so that he can just pull up from anywhere, with little trouble getting his shot off (this WAS college, though). He's really athletic. He can jump high to get rebounds, and get blocks (when he feels like it). I don't know if this is a "positive", but I'll just add that this was all after the one year of college rule, put into effect by the NBA. There's the possibility that he knew this was a bullshit year, and decided to do whatever he wanted...considering it was one and done for him. His whole demeanor could change as soon as he gets into the NBA. Although, he sure as hell is no Jeff Green, in terms of the type of person he is. To sum all of this up, I would not want Donte Greene on the Nets. He's too much of a headache, and there's too many questions about his game, all-around (especially defensively). Right now, it seems he could turn into another Al Harrington-type. Although, I won't put it against him that he'll be a good player in the future...and I will still root for him in the NBA. </div> And he's from Baltimore...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ May 4 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>And he's from Baltimore...</div> And many people compared him to Carmelo Anthony...
Pretty much what Pegs stated plus, I think he is a bit too cocky. Someone who thinks they are a top five draft pick but really should go ten or higher. It would be smarter to pick up a shooting gaurd that shoots and get a big man that stays in the post rather than trying to combine that into one player.
Id say we should wait another year and see how he develops... im not sure if he has declared for the draft or not.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Id say we should wait another year and see how he develops... im not sure if he has declared for the draft or not.</div> He has.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 5 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Id say we should wait another year and see how he develops... im not sure if he has declared for the draft or not.</div> He has. </div> Personally, i would take him with our first pick. would you?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 5 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Id say we should wait another year and see how he develops... im not sure if he has declared for the draft or not.</div> He has. </div> Personally, i would take him with our first pick. would you? </div> No.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 5 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 04:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 5 2008, 02:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ May 5 2008, 02:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Id say we should wait another year and see how he develops... im not sure if he has declared for the draft or not.</div> He has. </div> Personally, i would take him with our first pick. would you? </div> No. </div> Edit: Would not take him. Sorry i just caught it now.
<div><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/boHoWTUqHLs&"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/boHoWTUqHLs&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350" /></embed></object></div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Strengths: ?€? Size ?€? Frame ?€? Fluidity ?€? Perimeter shooting ability ?€? NBA range ?€? Ability to elevate/create separation/get shot off ?€? Pull-up jumper ?€? Pick and pop potential ?€? Budding/basic back to basket game ?€? Overall skill-level Weaknesses: ?€? Poor wingspan ?€? Stuck between 3 and 4 ?€? Lateral quickness to defend NBA SFs? ?€? Shot-selection ?€? Toughness ?€? Ball-handling skills ?€? Left hand ?€? Defensive intensity ?€? Consistent effort ?€? Project</div> Draft Express One of the most intriguing questions in this year's draft, in my opinion, is how is this guy different from Anthony Randolph? It seems that Donte's shooting ability is much farther than Randolph's, while Anthony is the better shot blocker? That doesn't seem to justify the difference in their draft perceptions. How is one loaded with potential and lucky to drop to 10, while one simply came out of school too early? Neither one would help us now, but based on team needs if we're taking a 6'10" SF wouldn't we want the one with the better jumpshot?
How is one of his weaknesses a Poor Wingspan? Maybe it was a bad source but I read that he has a wingspan of over 7'0 and he doesn't look like he has short arms..
He has an average wingspan. I've read about 6-10, to 6-11, which for a man of his size is average, as most prospects have monkey arms.
How many different threads do we have on Donte Greene? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>�€� Ability to elevate/create separation/get shot off �€� Budding/basic back to basket game</div> The 1st one doesn't really mean anything. He could get his shot off easily in college because he either faced shorter guys, or big men...and he's not even really a big man. The 2nd one is just flat out bullshit. He never uses his back to the basket game. I can only recall one game where he actually used that, maybe 2. A couple adjectives of "Immaturity" and "Cockiness" should be added as negatives.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 24 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How many different threads do we have on Donte Greene?</div> Whoops, I forgot about this one when NBA.com came out with new draft footage. Thanks for the merge!
