The Dark Knight--Official Thread

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  1. NJNetz

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    I might go on Monday to see it. Apparently, a lot of theaters are sold out, some for the whole weekend. I'll just let it die down a bit, and then go see it. No one better spoil it for me.
     
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    I will proclaim it the best superhero film ever. In fact, it may be the best movie that I have ever seen. It was really tense all the way through. You can tell from the way the movie was written that Nolan really gets both, Batman and the Joker. What didn't this movie have? It was a morality play, a thriller and a huge action movie all in one. The entire cast was off the hook. Heath Ledger was great as the Joker, but there were some other fine performances in this movie. How about Gary Oldham as Gordon? I thought he was great.

    If there is another Batman movie, I hope they will consider using some lesser know villians that would be really scary in the real world like Deadshot or maybe Hugo Strange/Bane.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale)</div><div class='quotemain'>If there is another Batman movie, I hope they will consider using some lesser know villians that would be really scary in the real world like Deadshot or maybe Hugo Strange/Bane.</div>

    If?

    As for the 'villain', What about Szasz??

    Yes. It was a morality play. That is the phrase I was trying to come up with.
     
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    I thought the ending was pretty shocking, I didn't see it coming

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Heath Ledger dies in the end</span>
     
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    I have this Theatre class where I have to see some plays throughout the summer; so tonight I went to one and before the show, the Director came out and started "dissing" The Dark Knight. In fairness to TDK, he sounded jealous that newspapers over here care more about blockbusters than classic live theatre...

    I haven't had the pleasure of watching TDK movie yet, as I am occupied this evening, but this man said it was "mediocre" and only highly touted because it had elaborate action scenes and popular characters.

    Thoughts? How would you retort this? Obviously this grumpy guy doesn't buy into any deep intrinsic value as far as the plot is concerned.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 18 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have this Theatre class where I have to see some plays throughout the summer; so tonight I went to one and before the show, the Director came out and started "dissing" The Dark Knight. In fairness to TDK, he sounded jealous that newspapers over here care more about blockbusters than classic live theatre...

    I haven't had the pleasure of watching TDK movie yet, as I am occupied this evening, but this man said it was "mediocre" and only highly touted because it had elaborate action scenes and popular characters.

    Thoughts? How would you retort this? Obviously this grumpy guy doesn't buy into any deep intrinsic value as far as the plot is concerned.</div>

    I'd tell your director he needs to quit being a "hater" and admit that it was cinema at it's finest. The psychology of the movie wasn't just aimed at Batman and the Joker. Nolan's script was so brilliant that he managed to engage the psychology of society at large. That psychology is most evident during the final section of the movie, but there are threads of it through the entire movie. I can't wait until it's release on DVD because I think repeated viewings will show that this story was incredibly layered. Yes, the action sequences were elaborate and big, but they needed to be for this story, so that all of Gotham would be engaged in this movie. There was no fat in this movie.

    Nolan didn't just throw in characters to throw in characters. The relationship between Batman/Joker/Harvey Dent is crucial to the morality play. In fact, there really were no wasted characters or relationships in this movie.

    Another reason for the success of this series of Batman films is they hired big named actors that have made their name for their acting rather than just being lucky enough to find celebrity. If your director can't appreciate the acting of Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Michael Caine, Gary Oldham, Aaron Eckhart and Morgan Freeman, then he's just jealous. Those guys tore the house down in this film.

    Seriously, it sounds like your director got his panties in a wad because Nolan and company achieved greatness with comic book characters that excedes, by far, anything that he has accomplished with so-called serious theater. It's his loss.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 18 2008, 11:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 18 2008, 11:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have this Theatre class where I have to see some plays throughout the summer; so tonight I went to one and before the show, the Director came out and started "dissing" The Dark Knight. In fairness to TDK, he sounded jealous that newspapers over here care more about blockbusters than classic live theatre...

    I haven't had the pleasure of watching TDK movie yet, as I am occupied this evening, but this man said it was "mediocre" and only highly touted because it had elaborate action scenes and popular characters.

    Thoughts? How would you retort this? Obviously this grumpy guy doesn't buy into any deep intrinsic value as far as the plot is concerned.</div>

    I'd tell your director he needs to quit being a "hater" and admit that it was cinema at it's finest. The psychology of the movie wasn't just aimed at Batman and the Joker. Nolan's script was so brilliant that he managed to engage the psychology of society at large. That psychology is most evident during the final section of the movie, but there are threads of it through the entire movie. I can't wait until it's release on DVD because I think repeated viewings will show that this story was incredibly layered. Yes, the action sequences were elaborate and big, but they needed to be for this story, so that all of Gotham would be engaged in this movie. There was no fat in this movie.

    Nolan didn't just throw in characters to throw in characters. The relationship between Batman/Joker/Harvey Dent is crucial to the morality play. In fact, there really were no wasted characters or relationships in this movie.

    Another reason for the success of this series of Batman films is they hired big named actors that have made their name for their acting rather than just being lucky enough to find celebrity. If your director can't appreciate the acting of Christian Bale, Heath Ledger, Michael Caine, Gary Oldham, Aaron Eckhart and Morgan Freeman, then he's just jealous. Those guys tore the house down in this film.

    Seriously, it sounds like your director got his panties in a wad because Nolan and company achieved greatness with comic book characters that excedes, by far, anything that he has accomplished with so-called serious theater. It's his loss.
    </div>

    Yeah that sounds like a completely legitimate response. To me it came off as he just can't believe a comic book movie could be such a "masterpiece".

    Hopefully I can see this movie soon and agree with you.
     
  8. Mamba

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    Christopher Nolan = ****ing genius.

    Heath Ledger = Performance of his career. The Joker > any antagonist in any movie.

    Christian Bale = As always, on the money, however outshined by Heath in every scene except the interrogation scene.

    What a fuckin'g movie. I'm going again Sunday, and then I'm going to see it in IMAX later on this week.
     
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    as far as bad guys for the next flick, i think two face is ready to go as the falcone family has already been introduced.

    i think the maroni family will be in it too. maybe have it with the two families, dent/two face and the hangman/sofia?

    you've got to save Bane a little longer.
     
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    Solid Movie. I liked Batman Begins better though..

    Ledger put on the best performance of his career. Blew Jack out of the water!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 18 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I have this Theatre class where I have to see some plays throughout the summer; so tonight I went to one and before the show, the Director came out and started "dissing" The Dark Knight. In fairness to TDK, he sounded jealous that newspapers over here care more about blockbusters than classic live theatre...

    I haven't had the pleasure of watching TDK movie yet, as I am occupied this evening, but this man said it was "mediocre" and only highly touted because it had elaborate action scenes and popular characters.

    Thoughts? How would you retort this? Obviously this grumpy guy doesn't buy into any deep intrinsic value as far as the plot is concerned.</div>

    Personally, I'd say you're right this guy is jealous. There may be some professional animosity as some in the arts consider live theatre the pinnacle of the creative process and big budget Hollywood flicks as everything thats wrong with the arts.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ Jul 19 2008, 04:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Heath Ledger = Performance of his career. The Joker > any antagonist in any movie.</div>

    Even Hannibal Lecter?
     
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    Great movie. Only bad part was the lady who brought her infant child to the movie and it kept crying. I changed seats.
     
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    ****ing AMAZING. I've never wanted the villain to appear on screen more. The Joker character was genius. Ledger was incredible. Definitely see it ASAP.
     
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    Seeing it with my boys on either Tuesday or Wednesday depending on work. Looking forward to it.

    Oh, and Hannibal Lecter > any antagonist in any movie. Sorry Mamba. [​IMG]
     
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    seeing either tommorow night or first showing monday, can't wait.
     
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    I just came back from the movie so I can finally give an honest impression of it.

    The movie up til the "Interrogation Room" scene...mediocre. Nothing to write home about, and certainly nothing better than Batman Begins.

    BUT HOLY SHIT from that scene on....just see it already.

    Oh and where was Catwoman mentioned? And as for the villain of the next film <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Joker is alive, and in custody. Dent is probably not dead, but at least in custody</span>
     
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    Well here are my thoughts, they are somewhat like Jigga's, although I don't want to ruin anything for potential viewers either.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> I think the cast did everything they were supposed to, Bale is always consistent and Heath had an amazing performance. I just thought it was good not great (overall), because the ending was somewhat rushed (in the sense that it felt too crammed in all at once with the plot twists) and I didn't believe and/or like it. I definitely thought that ship with the convicts should have been blown up in a realistic ending. I thought the last fight between the Joker and Batman was too short, and should have been a tad more epic. Two-face didn't have as interesting a "demise" (I know he lives on, just saying). Overall, the movie was entertaining. I think it certainly is reaping the benefits because the cast is great and the Batman brand is quite popular. My problems with the film are based on the plot and directing, so to reiterate I have no problems with the actors. If they were holding anything for Batman 3, they certainly diluted the quality of this second one. I would recommend it to other people, just make sure you buy a couple of snacks since this is a long movie</span>
     
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    OMGZZZ I need to vent.


    Tickets were sold out in my theater at 9:40, 10:20, 10:50, so I ended up catching it at 11:30.


    JESUS CHRIST! It was fuckin' SICK! No other way of describing. The cast was amazing, and Ledger was just spectacular. What a performance! He definitely outdid Jack!

    I'm so buying this on DVD when it comes out. OMG


    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> I actually thought two-face would be the center villain in the 3rd movie, but apparently not. And, what's the deal with The Joker? He's obviously not dead, so how is Nolan going to get around this? You can't exclude Joker from the next movie, nor can you really replace the actor with someone else. It's so tragic Ledger is gone.</span>


    It's going to be nearly impossible to top this movie with the next one.



    I'm also proud of my Joker username! [​IMG]


    Edit: <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Btw, Joker's entrance to the meeting was priceless</span>
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 20 2008, 02:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>OMGZZZ I need to vent.


    Tickets were sold out in my theater at 9:40, 10:20, 10:50, so I ended up catching it at 11:30.


    JESUS CHRIST! It was fuckin' SICK! No other way of describing. The cast was amazing, and Ledger was just spectacular. What a performance! He definitely outdid Jack!

    I'm so buying this on DVD when it comes out. OMG


    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> I actually thought two-face would be the center villain in the 3rd movie, but apparently not. And, what's the deal with The Joker? He's obviously not dead, so how is Nolan going to get around this? You can't exclude Joker from the next movie, nor can you really replace the actor with someone else. It's so tragic Ledger is gone.</span>


    It's going to be nearly impossible to top this movie with the next one.



    I'm also proud of my Joker username! [​IMG]</div>

    I bought tickets for 9:40 pm, but I bought them more than two hours before the movie, then I left the theatre and came back right before TDK started.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Edit: <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Btw, Joker's entrance to the meeting was priceless</span></div>

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'> Yeah that was easily one of the best scenes in the movie, lol at the "magic trick". I thought the cast was sick, though the flow of the movie seemed off at the end, it was still enjoyable though.</span>
     

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