The Dark Knight--Official Thread

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  1. NJNetz

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. I think many actors will want the part. Many actors want a role as a supervillian in a blockbuster movie. They also wan that paycheck that will pay so much it will set them for the rest of their life. Maybe a couple of actors will decline to take the role. They are in a very small minority. If anything, most actors will look at this as a challenge, with great rewards.</div>

    Normally, I would agree with you, but not in this case. The whole point is that this was Ledger's big role before his death. Under those circumstances, it's a turn-off to take Ledger's place as The Joker in Nolan's Batman.
     
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    if they can have 500 different actors play batman in the span of 6 movies* , than surely they can have someone else play the joker

    *yes, that's a big exageration
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 22 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. I think many actors will want the part. Many actors want a role as a supervillian in a blockbuster movie. They also wan that paycheck that will pay so much it will set them for the rest of their life. Maybe a couple of actors will decline to take the role. They are in a very small minority. If anything, most actors will look at this as a challenge, with great rewards.</div>

    Normally, I would agree with you, but not in this case. The whole point is that this was Ledger's big role before his death. Under those circumstances, it's a turn-off to take Ledger's place as The Joker in Nolan's Batman.
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    Dude, it's just a movie...

    Take some of your own advice - Read your signature out loud.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 22 2008, 09:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 22 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I disagree. I think many actors will want the part. Many actors want a role as a supervillian in a blockbuster movie. They also wan that paycheck that will pay so much it will set them for the rest of their life. Maybe a couple of actors will decline to take the role. They are in a very small minority. If anything, most actors will look at this as a challenge, with great rewards.</div>

    Normally, I would agree with you, but not in this case. The whole point is that this was Ledger's big role before his death. Under those circumstances, it's a turn-off to take Ledger's place as The Joker in Nolan's Batman.
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    Dude, it's just a movie...

    Take some of your own advice - Read your signature out loud.
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    I don't care if they recast the Joker, I really don't. I'm just pointing out why the role might not be attractive to some of the actors.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 22 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"Props to JCB"</div>

    [​IMG]
     
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    How could they recast the Joker after Jack Nicholson played him? Heck, the Batman movies have generally been about the bad guys as stars.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 22 2008, 09:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How could they recast the Joker after Jack Nicholson played him? Heck, the Batman movies have generally been about the bad guys as stars.</div>

    Heath definitely outdid Jack in this last film.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>What about the third installment's villains?
    It was widely believed that Two-Face would be the villain of the third installment. David Goyer, who penned Batman Begins and helped on The Dark Knight, had said that the Joker would disfigure Harvey Dent, aka Two-Face, in the third film, but we now know that Dent's disfigurement occurs in Dark Knight, and he is presumed dead or unconscious by the end of the film, though the character could easily be brought back with some realistic explanation.

    Asked about whether the Joker would appear in the third film (requiring the role to be recast), director Christopher Nolan stated "I don't know. I honestly have not taken a moment away from what is going on with the film now to even think about that. I don't know. I simply don't know." It has been rumoured by an unconfirmed source that there may be some extra footage of Heath Ledger's Joker that can be used in the third film, but at this time it is unknown.

    Referring to how Heath Ledger's absence will affect the third film in an interview with Movie Hole, Gary Oldman stated, "Maybe we don't need the Joker. Because we'll have The Riddler."

    There has been speculation on the web that the man who tried to blackmail Batman, named Mister Reese (as in "mysteries"), will turn into The Riddler, although that character is traditionally the alter ego of a man named Edward Nigma. The Mister Reese character is presented in a bumbling manner contrary to the common interpretation of the Riddler, who is one of Batman's most cunning and intelligent foes. Moreover, in one of the newspapers released with the viral marketing, there is a 'letter to the editor' that is authored by Edward Nashton, another of Riddler's alter-egos.

    There is one point where Lucius Fox and Batman are discussing the new Bat-suit. Batman makes a comment about the strength of the suit, asking if it would be able to protect him from dogs. Lucius says it should protect him from "cats"--a possible reference to Catwoman.

    Some fans were disappointed about The Scarecrow's small role in the film. He was, however, kept alive. This could foreshadow a return.</div>
    Source
     
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    Just saw it again, on the internet this time.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy @ Jul 24 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just saw it again, on the internet this time.</div>


    DVD quality?
     
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    Going to see it in IMAX tonight!!
     
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    I am putting all of my in-line responses into spoiler tags.


    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>What about the third installment's villains?
    It was widely believed that Two-Face would be the villain of the third installment. David Goyer, who penned Batman Begins and helped on The Dark Knight, had said that the Joker would disfigure Harvey Dent, aka Two-Face, in the third film, but we now know that Dent's disfigurement occurs in Dark Knight, and he is presumed dead or unconscious by the end of the film, though the character <u>could easily be brought back with some realistic explanation</u>.</span></div>
    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>
    I agree. Remember, Both he and batman fell from exactly the same height, and batman got up and ran away from the scene. They could go either way on whether he lived, died, or was crippled by the fall.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Asked about whether the Joker would appear in the third film (requiring the role to be recast), director Christopher Nolan stated "I don't know. I honestly have not taken a moment away from what is going on with the film now to even think about that. I don't know. I simply don't know." It has been rumoured by an unconfirmed source that there may be some extra footage of Heath Ledger's Joker that can be used in the third film, but at this time it is unknown.

    Referring to how Heath Ledger's absence will affect the third film in an interview with Movie Hole, Gary Oldman stated, "Maybe we don't need the Joker. Because we'll have The Riddler."</span></div>
    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>
    In other superhero movies that I have watched, it is not uncommon to use different villains in each movie. In some cases, they would have a villain in one movie, then skip a movie before bringing that villain back. It wouldn't surprise me at all if they already had planned to either reduce the Joker's role in the third movie, or not have him in it at all.
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>There has been speculation on the web that the man who tried to blackmail Batman, named Mister Reese (as in "mysteries"), will turn into The Riddler, although that character is traditionally the alter ego of a man named Edward Nigma. The Mister Reese character is presented in a bumbling manner contrary to the common interpretation of the Riddler, who is one of Batman's most cunning and intelligent foes. Moreover, in one of the newspapers released with the viral marketing, there is a 'letter to the editor' that is authored by Edward Nashton, another of Riddler's alter-egos.

    There is one point where Lucius Fox and Batman are discussing the new Bat-suit. Batman makes a comment about the strength of the suit, asking if it would be able to protect him from dogs. Lucius says it should protect him from "cats"--a possible reference to Catwoman.

    Some fans were disappointed about The Scarecrow's small role in the film. He was, however, kept alive. This <u>could</u> foreshadow a return.</span></div>

    Lots of speculation here.

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>Source</span></div>
    ^^^^ This is a Wiki. We all know that wiki's are not indisputable sources of information. They are occasionally helpful, but sometimes contain bad information. The website even has this disclaimer:
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>The content of this page was created directly by users and has not been screened or verified by IMDb staff.</span></div>
     
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    ROTR, your spoiler tags don't seem to be working.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ROTR, your spoiler tags don't seem to be working.</div>

    On my own screen, I see the words as extremely gark grey. The background is black. If you squint, you can read the words. If you see that I am making a reasonable attempt at trying to conceal it, please don't squint to hard to try to read it. Otherwise you will read it (if you didn't want to read the spoils in the first place).

    What does it look like from your perspective? Is there even a noticeable color change?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ROTR, your spoiler tags don't seem to be working.</div>

    On my own screen, I see the words as extremely gark grey. The background is black. If you squint, you can read the words. If you see that I am making a reasonable attempt at trying to conceal it, please don't squint to hard to try to read it. Otherwise you will read it (if you didn't want to read the spoils in the first place).

    What does it look like from your perspective? Is there even a noticeable color change?
    </div>

    Well on my screen, the words appear as they are. No dark background or letters or anything, they look exactly like the words you are reading right now.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>this is how a spoiler is supposed to be like. [​IMG]</span>

    I think it didn't work on my screen because you had quotes in between your spoiler tag. I already saw the movie so it makes no difference to me.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ROTR, your spoiler tags don't seem to be working.</div>

    On my own screen, I see the words as extremely gark grey. The background is black. If you squint, you can read the words. If you see that I am making a reasonable attempt at trying to conceal it, please don't squint to hard to try to read it. Otherwise you will read it (if you didn't want to read the spoils in the first place).

    What does it look like from your perspective? Is there even a noticeable color change?
    </div>

    Well on my screen, the words appear as they are. No dark background or letters or anything, they look exactly like the words you are reading right now.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>this is how a spoiler is supposed to be like. [​IMG]</span>
    </div>

    That is odd. On my screen, its the black bars. Is this the case for others? If so, I need to change something in my settings. I put the spoiler tags outside the whole quote, like [spoiler [quote [unquote [unspoiler. I will edit it and swap their positions.

    That worked!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 24 2008, 09:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 24 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>ROTR, your spoiler tags don't seem to be working.</div>

    On my own screen, I see the words as extremely gark grey. The background is black. If you squint, you can read the words. If you see that I am making a reasonable attempt at trying to conceal it, please don't squint to hard to try to read it. Otherwise you will read it (if you didn't want to read the spoils in the first place).

    What does it look like from your perspective? Is there even a noticeable color change?
    </div>

    Well on my screen, the words appear as they are. No dark background or letters or anything, they look exactly like the words you are reading right now.

    <span style='color:#000000;background:#000000'>this is how a spoiler is supposed to be like. [​IMG]</span>
    </div>

    That is odd. On my screen, its the black bars. Is this the case for others? If so, I need to change something in my settings. I put the spoiler tags outside the whole quote, like [spoiler [quote [unquote [unspoiler. I will edit it and swap their positions.

    That worked!
    </div>

    Yeah it is much better now.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 22 2008, 10:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>"Props to JCB"</div>

    Damn straight.

    I just watched the interrogation scene online. Wow. I hate seeing movies in theaters, but I might actually be forced to do so this time.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Joker @ Jul 24 2008, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy @ Jul 24 2008, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just saw it again, on the internet this time.</div>


    DVD quality?
    </div>
    Not that good, but it's good for a computer.
     

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