Utah Jazz: The Most Disgusting Fans in the History of Sports

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's a bit one-sided. Utah's problem with Fisher is that we feel like he used his daughter as an excuse to bail out. Fisher said that he wanted to be somewhere closer to her treatment - which everyone supported - and then he went to LA. Her doctors are in New York. Which is farther away. If he wanted to leave, he should have just said it straight out - Utah doesn't want anybody here that doesn't want to be here. That obviously doesn't justify racial slurs or other tasteless comments, but those are found anywhere. (Your article is a prime example.) And you know what? Fans can be brutal, but those guys can afford the best therapists in the world. Suck it up, Alex - don't invent slanderous stories because Utah has LA's back up against a wall.</div>

This is an ignorant post by Jessie.

The Utah organization supported Fisher and allowed him to leave. Shouldn't it end right there for Utah fans questioning Fisher? There's been nothing in Fisher's history to suggest he'd use his daughter's illness to leave Utah. This is the guy who hit two big shots to help Utah defeat the Warriors a year ago. This is the guy who flew back and forth to be with his teammates even though everyone would have given him a pass had he decided to not continue to play in the playoffs to be with his daughter.

Weak argument. If you are gonna accuse someone of weaseling out of a contract and "blaming" it on a sick child, you might want to try to put forth a little evidence or something. In fact, at the very least, even if you don't have evidence, which you don't, you might want to try to set forth a well reasoned argument that makes sense.

Reports about Fisher leaving the Jazz also stated that he was NOT looking to move to New York, or closer to New York, but to move to "one of six or seven cities where his daughter can receive optimal care for her rare form of cancer" New York and Los Angeles were among those cities.

From a basketball perspective he didn't leave Utah to play in a better situation. The Lakers were a mess in the beginning of the offseason with Kobe demanding a trade, the Jazz just came off a WCF appearance, while the Lakers lost for the second straight year in Round 1.

Fisher took LESS money to play with the Lakers.

I do agree it's unfair to group every UTAH fan into the classless category. You have some fans who supported Fisher and I'm sure there are plenty of great Jazz fans out there. We have a few on the site like Stockton and JRay.

Here's another factoid for Jessie regarding the hospital.

<span style="font-size:36pt;line-height:100%">"The Vision Center at Childrens Hospital Los Angeles is the largest pediatric ophthalmology program in the United States, and it is the only program in the country with expertise and treatment and research programs in virtually every pediatric ophthalmologic subspecialty area with the creation of six new institutes: the Retina Institute, the Cornea Institute, the Eye Birth Defects Institute, the Vision Development Institute, the Eye Technology Institute and the Orbit and Eye Movement Institute.
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The Retina Institute treats infants with Retinopathy of Prematurity (ROP), the second leading cause of blindness in infants; retinal trauma and detachment; retinal degenerations, such as retinitis pigmentosa; and RETINOBLASTOMA, a rare childhood cancer of the eye, which predominantly affects infants and young children under five years of age. The RETINOBLASTOMA Program at Childrens Hospital is the only one of its kind in the western United States based in a pediatric hospital. Nearly one-fifth of all retinoblastoma cases diagnosed annually in the United States are treated at Childrens Hospital Los Angeles. Medical Directors: Thomas C. Lee, M.D., and A. Linn Murphree, M.D."

 

go for it

 

Is there a point saying everything that has already been said, Shake?

He wrote a LAKER ARTICLE for LAKER FANS. Was it a little over the top? Yeah, but so what. Jesus...throw [satire] in the thread title, and it's an amazing article.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 13 2008, 09:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is there a point saying everything that has already been said, Shake?

He wrote a LAKER ARTICLE for LAKER FANS. Was it a little over the top? Yeah, but so what. Jesus...throw [satire] in the thread title, and it's an amazing article.</div>

But it was over the top and Alex put himself out there so he's going to get heat for it.

Maybe a better delivery would have been, "As I was watching this, I couldn't help but imagine what Laker fans must be thinking ... UTAH JAZZ FANS ARE WORST FANS IN THE HISTORY OF SPORTS. ..."

I think satire would be if he said the Jazz have the best fans of all time. LOL.

 

Purple and gold ass-whooping!

 

Its definitely an exaggeration and a generalization but IMO the Jazz fans definitely warranted an article to expose them. This went grossly underreported both last year and this year. Obviously the fans who are doing this stuf fis the minority. I give Jazz fans the benefit of the doubt because I'm a big Raiders fan and they're also commonly generalized as being stupid, violent, over the top lunatics which, if you've ever ben to a game, is anything but the truth.

That being said, I almost can't believe that someone could be yelling the word "nigger" in a public place and no one does anything. Fans don't stand up and tell the guy to STFU or report it to arena staff, security does nothing, reporters didn't give it a lot of attention in the media. I wouldn't expect the Jazz players to call out their own fans but if a Warriors player heard it I'm guessing the Jazz players heard it too. If you're a black Jazz player I would think you might at least think about giving a quote to the media asking Jazz fans to tone it down a bit. If some guy yelled that in the Oracle he'd probably get his ass kicked on the spot if security doesn't get there fast enough. And the Oracle is an extremely hospitable place, in my estimation the fans there are nicer and more non-violent than any other stadium in the area. Then again, I doubt anyone would have the balls to say that because the know the repercussions. Yeah, it was only a few fans but you can't help but ask why the other fans tolerated it and not one person at least reported them to security.

Regarding Fisher, I actually agree with Jazz fans here. Its hard for Jazz fans to really make a case because Fisher is made out to be such a class act fans just can't believe a lot of the accusations made toward him. He was on the Warriors for a few years so I know the kind of shit he pulls. Fans don't like him to begin with because of how he plays. He shoots a ton of shots that he shouldn't shoot, plays crappy defense, can't make a layup to save his life, hogs the ball when he should pass, and just generally drives you nuts from a purely basketball standpoint. I think even Lakers fans will agree on this. Hes one of the more frustrating players to watch.

Now, he is a classy guy in the locker room and on the court. The problems come when hes at home talking with his agent thinking about how awesome of a player he is. In Golden State he demanded a trade several times. The Warriors finally got someone to take his ass for a bunch of scrub expiring contracts and then he went AWOL and reportedly told management that he wasn't going to report to Jazz camp because he thought he was going to be traded to Cleveland or Miami. After a day or so he does decide to show up for press conferences and everything. Not long after he was shipped from GS it was reported that Fisher had been asking for a trade constantly for like a year because he thought he should be a starter. Mind you we had Baron Davis and Jason Richardson at the time with Monta Ellis rising up and Pietrus and a few other decent backup guards on the roster. He honestly believed he was as much or more deserving to start than Baron or J-Rich.

I can't say for sure that Fisher wanted out of Utah the entire time he was there but I wouldn't be surprised. He whined his way out of GS, clearly was unhappy going to Utah. Obviously his daughter's eye cancer was a serious issue but did he really have to leave Utah? Were there really no optometrists good enough to deal with this in Utah? Sure he wanted to be with his family but was the re-location to LA absolutely necessary when you've got a 3-5 month offseason plus you're away from home half of the season either way? You can't really knock what Fisher did for the sake of political correctness but knowing his history it wouldn't surprise me if he did take this opportunity when he had it to get out of Utah. I can see why he would prefer LA because it (theoretically) has better care for his daughter but IMO if he really wanted to be playing in Utah he could have made it work.

Again, I'm just going on what I know about Fisher. I know the kind of BS he pulled in GS. I know he didn't want to be in Utah, at least initially. I'm not saying hes a jerk. I'm just saying he has a history of whining his way out of situations he doesn't want to be in and I don't think he wanted to be in Utah. When his daughter's illness was discovered I'm sure he wasn't saying "WOOT I can finally get out of this cracker ass state!" but I think he did assess the situation and decide to leave Utah willingly even though it may have been possible to continue to play for Utah (albeit less convenient).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 13 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I can't say for sure that Fisher wanted out of Utah the entire time he was there but I wouldn't be surprised. He whined his way out of GS, clearly was unhappy going to Utah. Obviously his daughter's eye cancer was a serious issue but did he really have to leave Utah? Were there really no optometrists good enough to deal with this in Utah? Sure he wanted to be with his family but was the re-location to LA absolutely necessary when you've got a 3-5 month offseason plus you're away from home half of the season either way? You can't really knock what Fisher did for the sake of political correctness but knowing his history it wouldn't surprise me if he did take this opportunity when he had it to get out of Utah. I can see why he would prefer LA because it (theoretically) has better care for his daughter but IMO if he really wanted to be playing in Utah he could have made it work.

Again, I'm just going on what I know about Fisher. I know the kind of BS he pulled in GS. I know he didn't want to be in Utah, at least initially. I'm not saying hes a jerk. I'm just saying he has a history of whining his way out of situations he doesn't want to be in and I don't think he wanted to be in Utah. When his daughter's illness was discovered I'm sure he wasn't saying "WOOT I can finally get out of this cracker ass state!" but I think he did assess the situation and decide to leave Utah willingly even though it may have been possible to continue to play for Utah (albeit less convenient).</div>

Well L.A., like Shape pointed out, has the best treatment center, at least one of the best, in America. With Fisher's money, you obviously want to pay for the best.

I know Fisher overrates himself (and I never really liked him, as a Laker fan), but I don't know how it can be looked at as him using his family to get out of Utah. He took a major pay cut to come here and asked for his release, which was granted by Larry Miller. It just seems too legit for me.

As for him being on the road half of the season; his family doesn't usually travel with him on the road trips.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 13 2008, 11:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well L.A., like Shape pointed out, has the best treatment center, at least one of the best, in America. With Fisher's money, you obviously want to pay for the best.

I know Fisher overrates himself (and I never really liked him, as a Laker fan), but I don't know how it can be looked at as him using his family to get out of Utah. He took a major pay cut to come here and asked for his release, which was granted by Larry Miller. It just seems too legit for me.</div>
I completely understand why he went to LA. I'm just saying that IMO if he really wanted to be on the Utah Jazz he could have made it work. I don't really blame him for going to the "best" place for his daughter but I think that if he really wanted to honor his contract and his team he could have stayed and balanced it.

Also if the best place is in LA then the best place is in LA. I just have a hard time believing there wasn't a top notch optometrist (or whatever you call the doctor for eye cancer) in the Salt Lake City area. Is the treatment she gets at either place going to be a lot different? Its not like the place in Utah is going to be outdated, hes a friggen millionaire and I would imagine the top notch treatments are extremely similar no matter where you are. I guess if he wanted the best of the best for his daughter than its understandable.

 

Maybe the question people should be asking is why Fisher allegedly wanted out of Utah in the first place? If some Jazz fans want to speculate he used his daughter's illness to get out of Utah, that's an extreme accusation. For Fisher to play that card, how bad was it in Utah for him and his family?

Sounds more like paranoia to me or 'bitter-lover' syndrome.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Legacy @ May 13 2008, 11:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A fan really got into the Lakers huddle and said something to him?</div>

Yeah, in game 3. He didn't exactly get in the huddle, but he got right behind the bench and hurled verbal insults towards Fisher about his family as the game was going to a timeout.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (blackadder @ May 13 2008, 11:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Black Mamba @ May 13 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>It's the inbred, backwards, hillybilly ignorant stupid **** white people that is the majority of the population in Utah.
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Don't you mean WV?

If we are going for asinine generalizations; How bout LA is full bangers, beaners, & pompous hollywood know-it-alls? Or Cali is granola country; its full of fruits, nuts, & flakes?

As for most fans at Energy Solutions Arena (named for a company that stores other states & nations used hazardous waste) & statewide, chalk it up to the collective repression due to the dominate culture.
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That might be the funniest thing I've read today.