Melo is a good individual defender and scorer, but I dont think he is that good of a team offensive+defensive player
Q: Why would Denver even consider as they threaten to bust up their team hogging two of the very best shooting guards in the League, Iverson and JR Smith, but then settle for Marcus Williams at PG? A: Because they are dumb and they are not really serious about winning in the playoffs. Not being a 24-58 team anymore is enough to keep them happy. Maybe they're just a bunch of dumb mountain hicks who don't know that if you have a poor passing but good scoring team you need an outstanding PG to win playoff games.
I could see Denver doing this b/c Melo would become the scapegoat and its always been obvious that Iverson wants his own show. RJ has always been a #2 or #3 guy and could be a perfect fit with A.I. with him running the floor and being an explosive player who can get to the rim. Marcus is a good young PG with a future and Denver doesn't really have a quality PG of the future. PG: Marcus SG: AI SF: RJ PF: Martin C: ? Maybe Krstic if he's included.. with JR comin off the bench isn't bad at all. I think the Nets would still get the better of the trade depending on who else is thrown in there but I don't think it's as horrible of a trade for Denver as you guys think it is. Iverson can't play forever and the window is closing for him to get a ring.
The other reason to take rumors of C Anthony being traded seriously is that he might finally have figured out how screwed up the Nuggets are and how it isn't going to change until there are changes in team management. But the Nuggets are too dumb or cowardly right now to make the needed changes. Remember that he called the Nuggets a quitting team during and after game 3 of the playoffs blowout by the Lakers. So Anthony may have more or less demanded a trade, but decided to do it out of the public eye.
we shall see... id do it in a heart beat but if our pick is top 2... id still take beasley or rose over this trade... for financial reason as well
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ May 19 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I could see Denver doing this b/c Melo would become the scapegoat and its always been obvious that Iverson wants his own show. RJ has always been a #2 or #3 guy and could be a perfect fit with A.I. with him running the floor and being an explosive player who can get to the rim. Marcus is a good young PG with a future and Denver doesn't really have a quality PG of the future. PG: Marcus SG: AI SF: RJ PF: Martin C: ? Maybe Krstic if he's included.. with JR comin off the bench isn't bad at all. I think the Nets would still get the better of the trade depending on who else is thrown in there but I don't think it's as horrible of a trade for Denver as you guys think it is. Iverson can't play forever and the window is closing for him to get a ring.</div> More like: PG: AI SG: Smith SF: RJ PF: Martin C: Nene Bench: Kleiza, Marcus, #10 pick (DeAndre?), re-signed Nejera, use MLE on a player like Pietrus?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ May 19 2008, 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J-HoAgZ @ May 19 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'></div> More like: PG: AI SG: Smith SF: RJ PF: Martin C: Nene Bench: Kleiza, Marcus, #10 pick (DeAndre?), re-signed Nejera, use MLE on a player like Pietrus? </div> Your Denver backcourt lineup is not going to happen anytime soon. AI will never be the designated PG in Denver while Karl is there worshipping him in his historical 2-guard role. And even if Karl were to be fired, which is just a pipe dream, the next coach might refuse to do it as well, regardless of how much that kills the playoff prospects of the team.
what if the extra parts include sean williams and/or boone? wold that change anyone's view of the deal?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ May 19 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what if the extra parts include sean williams and/or boone? wold that change anyone's view of the deal?</div> No. It's Carmelo were talking about, a true piece you can build around.
First of all, this is WAY less than I thought we'd have to give up to get Melo. So if it happens, DAMN. That's not bad. With that said, if Thorn makes this deal, sits back and calls it an offseason, I'm going to be pissed. I like Harris, Carter and Melo, but we'll have the same problems we've had the past few seasons - a team with no identity with too many players who need the ball in their hands to be effective. L. Frank requires one thing from the players on his roster - a cerebral mind that can handle his complex offensive and defensive schemes. Anyone think Melo is excited for that? Does the trade make the team better? Yes. But I still think we'd be pretty mediocre after it - it would just be an upgrade of our assets, a stepping stone to whatever the NEXT move is.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ May 19 2008, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>what if the extra parts include sean williams and/or boone? wold that change anyone's view of the deal?</div> Well I've got personal economic reasons for wanting to keep Sean. I wonder if they would prefer to take a sign-and-trade along with Krstic? Just a thought.
Carmello isn't getting traded. Stupid article. If it were to happen it would have to be something like Carmello+Camby for Boone, Sean Williams, Marcus Williams, RJ, rd 1 pick, KVH contract, and maybe Krstic or some other player. and even then im not sure i would do it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone choose Beasely over Melo?</div> Because I don't lust after Syracuse players?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 19 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone choose Beasely over Melo?</div> Because I don't lust after Syracuse players? </div> What's the point of living, then?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 19 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone choose Beasely over Melo?</div> Because I don't lust after Syracuse players? </div> What's the point of living, then? </div> To dream of drafting Georgetown players, of course
maybe there is a third team involved that we don't know about. Toronto maybe, give them RJ and Camby, Bargnani and Calderon to Denver.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 19 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 19 2008, 02:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone choose Beasely over Melo?</div> Because I don't lust after Syracuse players? </div> What's the point of living, then? </div> To dream of drafting Georgetown players, of course </div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 19 2008, 02:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would anyone choose Beasely over Melo?</div> Cheaper.
