<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if seattle doesnt take a PG, they are just plain dumb seriously</div> How can they if their isn't one worth taking??? </div> http://www.draftexpress.com/ Sonics - Bayless
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nick Collison is good Robert Swift- injury ruined him Johan Petro- is more of an energy guy Saer Sene- He's not ready</div> They also have Chris Wilcox. Watson and Ridnour is a terrible PG rotation. Big rotation isnt much better, but Bayless is more of a sexy supermodel pick. Lopez would be like settling for your ugly friend.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> man love on Lopez much?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I feel sorry for the Knick, like I said all along, if you didn't get a top 4 pick, your left with a bunch of trash</div> Well considering the Knicks have a lot of trash on their roster, I'm sure he'd fit in fine.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 20 2008, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Doubt Gordon is gone. We'll either have a guy in Beasley who can make an in and out game with Gordon, or a guy like Rose who can penetrate. Gordon is definitely coming back after tonights results. We have lots of trade pieces, and our two best players can be practically off limits due to their Free Agency (just resign them and they can't be traded). So if we have Rose/Beasley, Gordon, Deng....we can play around with Noah, Nocioni, Hinrich, Thomas, Sefolosha, Hughes (jk, he isn't a trade piece), and Gooden, and see what we can get for all that. I just can't see how Paxson can mess this one up. (Actually, the only time he messed up...in the draft, was the one time when he bucked from his philosophy, and took Thomas. When he's stuck to his philosophy, we've come out good, with Hinrich, Duhon, Gordon, Deng, Sefolosha, Noah, and Gray....Thomas just sucks). Put in a winning coach like Avery Johnson, and we'll be a powerhouse in the East for the next 10 years.</div> You could move Hinrich and Gordon, and another player for another veteran or pick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JayJohnstone @ May 20 2008, 06:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rose makes a really big logjam in the backcourt for the Bulls. They'd surely look to dump Hinrich and maybe Gordon, too.</div> It's not like there is a smaller logjam in the frontcourt if you take beesley. </div> Awww... Tyrus and/or Noah should sit if we take Beasley. It's not like our front court is really stacked. Beasley would give us 5 starters who can actually put the ball in the basket regularly: Hinrich, Gordon, Gooden, Beasley, Deng With Hughes & Nocioni providing some ability off the bench. (or start Hughes, Gordon off the bench). The scenario with Rose, barring trade: Rose, Hinrich, Gooden, Noah, Deng (or Thomas for Noah) Playing 4 on 5 on offense. As I said, been there, done that, seen enough of it.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10 </div> Ryan Anderson, Jon Brackman, Devon Hardin. plud being doubled team. he also didn't play in the beginning of the year, so he didn't play those weak team, that all the other players played to make their stats look better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if seattle doesnt take a PG, they are just plain dumb seriously</div> How can they if their isn't one worth taking??? </div> http://www.draftexpress.com/ Sonics - Bayless </div> He's not a PG
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 09:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nick Collison is good Robert Swift- injury ruined him Johan Petro- is more of an energy guy Saer Sene- He's not ready</div> They also have Chris Wilcox. Watson and Ridnour is a terrible PG rotation. Big rotation isnt much better, but Bayless is more of a sexy supermodel pick. Lopez would be like settling for your ugly friend. </div> Exactly what I was gonna say. Guard play is getting more and more important in the NBA. If you have a shitty PG rotation and a below-average frontcourt rotation, you go for a good PG in the draft. Especially when you have the 4th pick in this draft.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if seattle doesnt take a PG, they are just plain dumb seriously</div> How can they if their isn't one worth taking??? </div> http://www.draftexpress.com/ Sonics - Bayless </div> He's not a PG </div> either way its still a better pick then Lopez
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10 </div> Ryan Anderson, Jon Brackman, Devon Hardin. plud being doubled team. he also didn't play in the beginning of the year, so he didn't play those weak team, that all the other players played to make their stats look better. </div> my point exactly, these guys should be chopped liver for a guy thats supposed to be "a top big in this draft" The rest of those guys are 2nd rounders.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ May 20 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if seattle doesnt take a PG, they are just plain dumb seriously</div> How can they if their isn't one worth taking??? </div> http://www.draftexpress.com/ Sonics - Bayless </div> He's not a PG </div> either way its still a better pick then Lopez </div> No it's not. You have a good low post scorer like Lopez, who will be able to get double teams, and get Durant wide open shots.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10 </div> Ryan Anderson, Jon Brackman, Devon Hardin. plud being doubled team. he also didn't play in the beginning of the year, so he didn't play those weak team, that all the other players played to make their stats look better. </div> my point exactly, these guys should be chopped liver for a guy thats supposed to be "a top big in this draft" The rest of those guys are 2nd rounders. </div> So he supposed to be putting up what 30 points, in a defensive conference, where the pace of the game is very slow?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would Seattle do Gordon for Collison?</div> I'm sure they would think about it. If Chicago does try and trade Gordon I hope to God the Blazers make a strong push for him (while somehow getting him without giving up the big 3 or Fernandez). Maybe Frye, Webster, Jack etc </div> As a bulls fan, I would much rather have collison than guys who make too much, play positions we already have filled with better guys, or who cost more than they're worth.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 08:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 08:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There's no PG worth taking at 4, they should get a low post scorer like Lopez, who Durant can benefit off. Bayless isn't a play-maker that can give Durant good looks. He's a scorer, and will dominate the ball to much.</div> a 47% FG shooting big man in College isn't going to be that great. Bayless is a better prospect than Lopez. I see Seattle picking Bayless. Memphis can take Lopez </div> Lopez was consistently doubled and tripled team in college, and had no perimeter help. Don't let that FG% tell you everything. </div> Doubled? Look at the bigs he went up against besides Kevin Love in the Pac 10 </div> Ryan Anderson, Jon Brackman, Devon Hardin. plud being doubled team. he also didn't play in the beginning of the year, so he didn't play those weak team, that all the other players played to make their stats look better. </div> my point exactly, these guys should be chopped liver for a guy thats supposed to be "a top big in this draft" The rest of those guys are 2nd rounders. </div> So he supposed to be putting up what 30 points, in a defensive conference, where the pace of the game is very slow? </div> Rethink what you're arguing about. Not PPG...
