<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 20 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cause he was being shopped during the trade deadline</div> They're called rumors for a reason. Why would Seattle trade their most productive big man? </div> cause they're rebuilding and he has trade value. </div> They're not rebuilding, they're building, and as Pegs said they're not going to get rid of they're best big man for kicks. Like "Oh hey we're really young...well better rebuild again! Lets get rid of our best players!" lol, c'mon hawksfan, why don't they trade Durant then? Sure he's their best wing player but "they're rebuilding and he has trade value." Something doesn't add up, right?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't comparing their games, I was comparing what kind of prospect they are. And Horford didn't hold Oden to 7 pts. they played in different confetences, and with different players.</div> Oden and Horford did play against each other, in the NCAA championship game... I think I was wrong about Horford holding Oden to only 7 points. My bad. But anyways, my stance still stands. I don't think picking Lopez is the right move for the Sonics, for reasons I have already stated (your responses don't really make sense btw) and Horford was a much better prospect at the time than Lopez is now. I guess we can agree to disagree (I personally think your idea of drafting Lopez is ridiculous), but you're in the minority here. LOL
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ May 20 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 10:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ May 20 2008, 09:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 10:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Cause he was being shopped during the trade deadline</div> They're called rumors for a reason. Why would Seattle trade their most productive big man? </div> cause they're rebuilding and he has trade value. </div> They're not rebuilding, they're building, and as Pegs said they're not going to get rid of they're best big man for kicks. Like "Oh hey we're really young...well better rebuild again! Lets get rid of our best players!" lol, c'mon hawksfan, why don't they trade Durant then? Sure he's their best wing player but "they're rebuilding and he has trade value." Something doesn't add up, right? </div> LOL Don't you know that it is required for every team not in playoff contention to trade away any player who is over 24 years old and makes over 5 million? Must... keep... stacking... team... with... 18... year... old... playerz... LOL LMAO LMFAO
I like that idea of doing Kirk/Deng for Anthony. The question is where the hell do we dump Hughes? Someone on an equal contract that doesn't expect to play is fine by me. Also, how about trying to trade the #1 pick to Dallas for Dirk? I think he would be a good fit for our team. If we did Hughes, Thomas, Nocioni, and #1 for Dirk and we'd have: PG-Kirk Hinrich/Chris Duhon SG-Ben Gordon/Thabo Sefolosha SF-Luol Deng/Thabo Sefolosha PF-Dirk Nowitzki/Drew Gooden C- Joakim Noah/Drew Gooden That would be a fun 8 man rotation to watch imo. A little bit of Aaron Gray in the mix, Avery Johnson as coach.
Bulls fans I have one name for ou guys that will solve all your problems, Brook Lopez. Take him and I'll stop crying.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 20 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like that idea of doing Kirk/Deng for Anthony. The question is where the hell do we dump Hughes? Someone on an equal contract that doesn't expect to play is fine by me. Also, how about trying to trade the #1 pick to Dallas for Dirk? I think he would be a good fit for our team. If we did Hughes, Thomas, Nocioni, and #1 for Dirk and we'd have: PG-Kirk Hinrich/Chris Duhon SG-Ben Gordon/Thabo Sefolosha SF-Luol Deng/Thabo Sefolosha PF-Dirk Nowitzki/Drew Gooden C- Joakim Noah/Drew Gooden That would be a fun 8 man rotation to watch imo. A little bit of Aaron Gray in the mix, Avery Johnson as coach.</div> If only Walsh didn't become president of the Knicks...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 07:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ May 20 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ May 20 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jack and Outlaw are not end of the bench type players. They both were 6th men of the year vote getters</div> Outlaw would be 3rd SF on the team, maybe 4th (behind Thabo). Jack would be behind Hinrich, Rose, Thabo, and Hughes. It's just not filling a need for one team in the deal, see what I mean? (The only reason to consider trading Gordon is if we draft Rose) </div> Ya I know what your saying I also thinks it 2 guys overvaluing their own players </div> I don't think I'm overrating or underrating Roy Going from big 3 to big 4, adding two guys 26 or under who'll start until they're too old to anymore, is the only reason I'd think of trading Roy.
Chris Wilcox is a free-agent next season, and will have alot of value being a expiring contract. Robert Swift one of the players Brian mention is a restricted free agent, they should just let him walk. That leaves the Sonics with two young big men Saer Sene and Johan Petro. Saer Sene is a project, and if he develops it'll be down the road, Johan petro doesn't have much of a offensive game. I bet even with all these big men, they'll still be looking for one down the road, if they choose to pass on Lopez, if they have the chance of getting him. Wither way T"wolves could also get Lopez, and all of the sudden the Sonics are screwed.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bynumite @ May 20 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There going to get Rose.</div> How do you know? They already have Hinrich and Gordon as their premier guards... The would need Beasley more even if they have noah and thomas... The best way to go would be to package that 1st pick into a trade... I hope Miami gets Beasley... Thats who they need.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted Lopez to go to the Bulls. They should get Beasley Miami gets Rose Minny gets Lopez</div> Why doesn't Chicago work a trade with Minny and trade thier #1 pick for Minny's 3rd and Boston 1st for next year and maybe one of the second rounders. Minny gets Rose and Chicago still get Lopez. Not to mention a high 2nd rounder and an extra 1st rounder next year
I think the Bulls should take Rose, then try to put together a package with Duhon, Tyrus Thomas, and filler and see if they can jump into the Melo sweepstakes. A lineup of Rose/Hinrich/Anthony/Gooden/Noah would put the Bulls in the top 4 in the East.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz @ May 21 2008, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think the Bulls should take Rose, then try to put together a package with Duhon, Tyrus Thomas, and filler and see if they can jump into the Melo sweepstakes. A lineup of Rose/Hinrich/Anthony/Gooden/Noah would put the Bulls in the top 4 in the East.</div> it's gonna take much more than Duhon, Ty and filler to get Melo....the Nets can offer more seeing they could have RJ and those draft picks in the mix
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ May 21 2008, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz @ May 21 2008, 11:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think the Bulls should take Rose, then try to put together a package with Duhon, Tyrus Thomas, and filler and see if they can jump into the Melo sweepstakes. A lineup of Rose/Hinrich/Anthony/Gooden/Noah would put the Bulls in the top 4 in the East.</div> it's gonna take much more than Duhon, Ty and filler to get Melo....the Nets can offer more seeing they could have RJ and those draft picks in the mix </div> But in the proposed trade I heard, the Nets would also be getting Camby on top of Melo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (David_Ortiz @ May 21 2008, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think the Bulls should take Rose, then try to put together a package with Duhon, Tyrus Thomas, and filler and see if they can jump into the Melo sweepstakes. A lineup of Rose/Hinrich/Anthony/Gooden/Noah would put the Bulls in the top 4 in the East.</div> Duhon's an unrestricted FA, he can sign with Denver for no compensation. Wouldn't be a bad move on Denver's part. The Bulls could S&T him if there's a deal that works with the BYC issue, and if it were the only way Duhon could get paid more than otherwise. Also, the Bulls would have Deng and Nocioni still. Could package one of them in the deal.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (o.iatlhawksfan @ May 20 2008, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Chris Wilcox is a free-agent next season, and will have alot of value being a expiring contract. Robert Swift one of the players Brian mention is a restricted free agent, they should just let him walk. That leaves the Sonics with two young big men Saer Sene and Johan Petro. Saer Sene is a project, and if he develops it'll be down the road, Johan petro doesn't have much of a offensive game. I bet even with all these big men, they'll still be looking for one down the road, if they choose to pass on Lopez, if they have the chance of getting him. Wither way T"wolves could also get Lopez, and all of the sudden the Sonics are screwed.</div> How do you know the Sonics won't resign Wilcox or Swift? You don't. Not drafting Lopez leaves the Sonics with Sene and Petro, both young, and still developing centers. Why would you want to add Lopez into the mix? Again, there is no spot for him on this roster. The Sonics drafted Sene and Petro for a reason, and they have already spent a lot of time developing those two. You think they're just going to give up on them now? Drafting Lopez will only hinder the development of him, and the other young bigs on the Sonics roster. There isn't enough playing time to go around for everyone. And the Sonics won't be screwed if they don't draft Lopez, why would they? What, is Lopez going to turn into a franchise player? Don't make me laugh. The Sonics can pick up another equally young, talented player, like Bayless. And unlike Lopez, Bayless fills a need. You're acting like Lopez is a once in a lifetime type of talent, which he is not. Give Sene and Petro time to develop, and in a couple of seasons, if they don't live up to your expectations, then you can use your lottery pick (which they will most likely end up getting) on another big. But it's pointless to just give up on such big investments now, unless you know you are drafting a superstar calibure type of player, which Lopez certainly is not. LOL
No he doesn't. Just because he doesn't have great playmaking skills doesn't mean he won't develop them (he's only 20). And now, more so than ever, you don't need to be a "traditional" point guard to be successful at that position. Just take Gilbert Arenas for an example. LOL Also, who's saying they must make a pick at number 4? If they don't see anyone they like, they can always trade down and get someone like Russel Westbrook or DJ Augustine. The draft this year is really deep on big man. If they want, they can always aquire a late first round pick or an early second if they are really intent on adding another young, developing big onto their roster. LOL Bottom line, it would be a waste to use another early lottery pick on a another big, unless that big has superstar potential, which Lopez does not. You draft Lopez, then you basically wasted 4 past lottery picks. That's not a sign of good management. LOL
Giblert Arenas are you serious? You don't develop playmaking skills at 20, you either have it or your don't.
