Warriors at #14 (no surprise)

We didn't make out like the Bulls, so who do you think the Warriors will draft barring any trades?

It could be almost anybody since the only sure thing seems to be Michael Beasley (the most finished nba prospect at SF/PF) and possibly Derrick Rose who is just an absolutely killer prospect. It's really interesting.

I think we're probably going for the high risk/high reward player. Probably Javale McGee or DeAndre Jordan. I mean most 14's... you figure, if you're going to make some kind of impact at a position that you desperately need and there's no adequate high floor type of players at the position, you go for the risky.

 

You mess up picking O'Brayant a couple of years back, and you think they'll do it again? I'd pick a CDR or a player that can come in and produce right away.

 

Let's get a player we need and someone who can play now or soon. Our management isn't set up to be patient and nurturing. The BAPs whom we drafted the past years haven't worked out -- MDJ, Murphy, MP and POB. Only Monta and Biedrins have panned out. I'm not even sure if Nellie will play Brandan Wright and Marco Belinelli a lot of minutes. I'm down with a trade too, for a guy like Mike Miller or Chris Wilcox.

 

Murphy and Pietrus were both pretty good. Murphy just got way overpaid. I don't know how POB and Dunleavy were the BAPs though. The team needs depth. The team needs production off the bench. The lack there of hurt the team big time at the end of last season. I just say go for the best available player. If there is a position to try to attack, I'd say go for a PG. But I don't know if there is really any good PG in the draft.

 

I'm down with any solid player that can play right now and still has upside.

I'm just saying the Warriors would probably pick a guy like POB or a Pietrus, end up picking JaVale, DeAndre, or Donte Greene and miss out on the more finished products that are more of a sure thing. Unless we get #1 or #2 overall pick, the rest is a crap shoot for anybody 6'10 or over. The warriors could go for the body or for polished skills. We need a shot creator who can also finish high % wise and also defend. Makes me think we should go for a swingman. With big men it's feast or famine... like Carlos Boozer wasn't even considered all that athletic or that great of a rebounder and a lot of people were wrong.

It's hard to really observe basketball like a scout would. So I just go by what I hear, see some clips now and then. I don't really feel too strongly about anyone that I've seen other than maybe Brooke Lopez, Derrick Rose, or Michael Beastley. I heard Donte Greene has a lot of the same problems that the Warriors do, so I just don't feel strongly about that pick at #14. He seems to shoot more 3's than free throw attempts, suck at the foul line, and play no defense! But he's athletic and has advanced scoring instincts. That's what I've read on different reports at different times of the season. High potential, though.

I got conflicting reports about CDR and what he does. The most consistent thing I hear about CDR is he's a great ballhandler and he's very active and clever. He's smart. Okay. But then Nbadraft says he's a good midrange shooter, whereas DraftExpress reviewer says his midrange game might be underused. I'm not sure, but from the latest reviews I heard he used to suck, but got a lot better especially in the tourney (which is important because everyone is the best in the country and its high presure time). Now I read CDR can go left or right equally well, go all the way to the basket, pull up for a midrange shot. He's got an unorthodox style of play which might throw defenses off. I can see his qualities as a point guard/shooting guard which can be useful if the Marco Belinelli pick turns out to be a bust for some reason. I like the CDR pick if he's the player I imagine him to be in the nba. Not that high flying dunker, but quick, effective and smart and not a total wussy when it comes to playing defense or trying to get fouled. A boring player for some, but maybe an ideal team player that can step up for the coach and improve some areas.

The Koufos guy seems interesting, not very polished, but very promising because he does have some high level skill. I just worry that he might just shy further and further away from the rim. He doesn't have the qualities that I like in players that try to draw more contact in the paint. He's not big like Yao and he's not quick like Dirk. I'm not sure of any of the inside scoring polish that Okur has. But for positives, he's probably one of the most skilled big men you'll find, especially at a bargain price of only the 14th overall pick! Then if he turns out to be a good inside scorer with the perimeter game, shotblock ability, rebound ability, and passing. Well... we'll feel pretty stupid passing him up because he wasn't really that strong, quick, or that polished at age 19. I guess that's why it's crapshoot time! So I say he's worth the risk if the scouters believe he could spell Biedrins if Biedrins didn't want to come back or if we weren't going to get a backup center anyway. Center or a big power forward is a really important position in the nba. You either have it, or you go back to the lotto trying to find one.

I figure if we want to settle for a guy like Donte Green, might as well go for an even bigger risk like Nicholas Batum. Long, athletic, advanced basketball IQ, but needs to physically mature and add more polish to his game. Oh and he's an unknown here in the states outside of draft buffs/euroleague buffs, which adds more to the mystique. He'll probably match up with 6'10 guys on wingspan alone (7'1" wingspan!) unless he's facing Brandan Wright (6'9" with 7'5" wingspan). I remember reading about Batum when they were scouting him at age 16. The guy must have something that can't be taught and I hope it's not just wingspan. A draft pick for those Euro buffs to ponder because I heard he was really disappointing this season (never mind he's barely an adult like most college prospects). I haven't seen him play against the pros, but I know he's hyped because many feel his natural feel for the game could make him good in so many areas of the game on both ends of the floor.

The last guy I had my eye on was Chase Budinger. He's probably the guy that would fit in with the warriors the most. To me, he'd be a lot like the Chris Douglas Roberts pick except for some important differences: one being difference in midrange games/shots off the dribble, two the difference in mechanics and style of play, three ballhandling ability and the others being rebounding/3point shooting ability. But for the most part, they both make a good effort to go to the foul line (just in different ways). Different players, but nice production and improvements made to their games. I like players that are reputed as being smart, pretty quick or athletic and produce good numbers against good college teams. Numbers don't tell everything, but consistent and improving numbers at least describe how a player is able to produce and make adjustments. CDR and Budinger come from pretty good college divisions. I noticed CDR is ranked probably lower than Budinger because Whiteboy has a 40 inch standing vertical and can shoot 38% from beyond the arc at more than 5 attempts per game!!! Damnnnn! But I think ballhandling, going to the rack and D potential is more important priority. I think Budinger sounds like a tweener whereas CDR might actually fill a shooting guard role very well. I think both are very capable Warriors but CDR seems to have the better skill in shot creating/defense whereas Budinger has the edge in 3 point shooting and rebounding. But... both suck horribly at foul shooting even though they can get to the foul line at least 4 or 5 times a game on average. Both low 70%... yikes. I guess our free throw shooting coach Sidney Moncrief will have to work extra hard with our draft picks. We got some guys that just can't shoot uncontested shots when people are standing there watching. Meanwhile they're finishing off balance, launching 27 foot 3 pointers, making layups in traffic, and can't hit the simplest of shots 15 feet away from the rim... wtf is wrong with these guys?

But I think those are my two guys without having followed their games under a microscope. Chris Douglas Roberts or Chase Budinger. Either one you get some good strong qualities and plenty of room to grow more weapons. If we have to go for a big man at 14... damn... I dunno... The choices are like the Bush-Kerry election. Either way, we're eating it right out of the butt.

Anybody watch any of these guys and follow their teams all year long? I heard on another board that JaVale McGee is really lazy and DeAndre Jordan kind of sucks and all he is a big body with some quickness and hops. Donte Green is all over the place on where he should go. I'm not sure what espn says about Greene because they're being a nuisance with that insider b.s. But i'm down with BAP (highest floor, pretty good ceiling) I don't want another dumb, raw player like Pietrus, I want a smart guy that can produce results like a Pietrus when Pietrus "gets it" (or at least the rookie/sophmore version of Pietrus where even though he didn't get it, he still rocked at a point per minute production with dunks over Mutombo!).

 

Anyone think this guy will slip for being too short?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=36469

Eric Gordon

His traits as a SG sound good. Athletic and 83% foul shooter. Let's just hope if he falls to us he's as long as Jrich length (6'4" in reality with really long arms).

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ May 22 2008, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I got conflicting reports about CDR and what he does. The most consistent thing I hear about CDR is he's a great ballhandler and he's very active and clever. He's smart. Okay. But then Nbadraft says he's a good midrange shooter, whereas DraftExpress reviewer says his midrange game might be underused. I'm not sure, but from the latest reviews I heard he used to suck, but got a lot better especially in the tourney (which is important because everyone is the best in the country and its high presure time). Now I read CDR can go left or right equally well, go all the way to the basket, pull up for a midrange shot. He's got an unorthodox style of play which might throw defenses off. I can see his qualities as a point guard/shooting guard which can be useful if the Marco Belinelli pick turns out to be a bust for some reason. I like the CDR pick if he's the player I imagine him to be in the nba. Not that high flying dunker, but quick, effective and smart and not a total wussy when it comes to playing defense or trying to get fouled. A boring player for some, but maybe an ideal team player that can step up for the coach and improve some areas. even though he didn't get it, he still rocked at a point per minute production with dunks over Mutombo!).</div>

CDR's midrange game is sort of a mystery at this point to a casual fan because the AASAA offense that Memphis runs stresses getting to the rim or shooting long range jumpshots, but CDR did shoot 41.3% from college 3 this season, so his shot is there. I don't see him being able to play PG though, he's strictly a wing player, methinks. His floater is money, also, which might be where your getting this unorthodox style thing from.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clif25 @ May 22 2008, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Murphy and Pietrus were both pretty good. Murphy just got way overpaid. I don't know how POB and Dunleavy were the BAPs though. The team needs depth. The team needs production off the bench. The lack there of hurt the team big time at the end of last season. I just say go for the best available player. If there is a position to try to attack, I'd say go for a PG. But I don't know if there is really any good PG in the draft.</div>

Forget about the salaries and individual stats and look how each has helped their teams. Some of these guys were consensus picks at their spot like MDJ and POB. They were the BAP guys. Murphy and MP were drafted lower so there could have been other choices, but they didn't pan out in regards to helping the team move forward. We just ended up getting rid of these guys instead of developing them. POB is going down the same road. If Nellie was going to be our coach beyond next season, then I would seriously question keeping Wright and Belinelli unless they really start producing on their own and Nellie plays them. Nellie isn't going to play them just to develop them.

Thus, I say in the kind of management situation we're in with "Wrong time to be cheap" Cohan, "I don't have a clear plan for this team" Mullin and "I just play the guys who'll help me to win" Nelson, we need a guy who is going to be a self-starter and someone who can fill a role and is ready to play now. We don't need a guy who is going to be a star three years from now because he's not going to be able to show it when he's on the Warriors.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 22 2008, 05:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ May 22 2008, 05:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I got conflicting reports about CDR and what he does. The most consistent thing I hear about CDR is he's a great ballhandler and he's very active and clever. He's smart. Okay. But then Nbadraft says he's a good midrange shooter, whereas DraftExpress reviewer says his midrange game might be underused. I'm not sure, but from the latest reviews I heard he used to suck, but got a lot better especially in the tourney (which is important because everyone is the best in the country and its high presure time). Now I read CDR can go left or right equally well, go all the way to the basket, pull up for a midrange shot. He's got an unorthodox style of play which might throw defenses off. I can see his qualities as a point guard/shooting guard which can be useful if the Marco Belinelli pick turns out to be a bust for some reason. I like the CDR pick if he's the player I imagine him to be in the nba. Not that high flying dunker, but quick, effective and smart and not a total wussy when it comes to playing defense or trying to get fouled. A boring player for some, but maybe an ideal team player that can step up for the coach and improve some areas. even though he didn't get it, he still rocked at a point per minute production with dunks over Mutombo!).</div>

CDR's midrange game is sort of a mystery at this point to a casual fan because the AASAA offense that Memphis runs stresses getting to the rim or shooting long range jumpshots, but CDR did shoot 41.3% from college 3 this season, so his shot is there. I don't see him being able to play PG though, he's strictly a wing player, methinks. His floater is money, also, which might be where your getting this unorthodox style thing from.
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Ah I meant PG at duty, maybe a la Joe Johnson/Mike Miller/Marko Jaric? No? I dunno. I guess just somebody to handle the ball very well by 6'5 and over standards.

 

i say trade the pick and get a player that can come in and produce and b clutch!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 24 2008, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>How about this trade with Washington?

Brendan Haywood + #18 pick for Al Harrington + #14 pick + filler (Patrick O'Bryant?)

Last year Haywood finished in the top 10 in blocked shots with 133. He's used to playing with ball hogs and can score around the rim off missed shots or dish offs. He also shoots a respectable 73.5% from the free throw line.

Haywood recently asked to be traded because he's not getting along with Eddie Jordan.

The Warriors can still draft a quality player at 18 for less money, possibly CJ Watson to back up Baron Davis?

The Wizards make this trade to unload a disgruntled Brendan Haywood and move up 4 spots in the draft. They also get insurance in case Antawn Jamison decides to leave. Worst-case scenario, Al Harrington would make a viable 6th man for the Wizards because he can get away with playing PF in the East. He'd be a nice option backing up either Butler or a re-signed Jamison.</div>

It seems like a pretty good trade and best shot at getting a center. I was hoping to use a draft pick for somebody like Kosta Koufos, but if he's still there we can still get him and if he's not there, hopefully we get a solid role player or a near-all-star. Anyone think Chris Douglas Roberts has star potential? He really stands out to be as one of the better prospects who wouldn't suffer from lack of ballhandling or defensive ability. There's got to be a steal out there like how Dallas got Josh Howard and maybe he's it?

Is there a trade that could convert Harrington into a #18 instead and we use our #14 on Kosta Koufos? We could probably use #18 or perhaps a later pick on CDR, Mario Chalmers, Ty Lawson, or Donte Greene. One of these guys has slipped or will slip and maybe deserved to be drafted higher.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 24 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bigkallday @ May 24 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i say trade the pick and get a player that can come in and produce and b clutch!</div>

I agree with the Warriors trading the pick, but I think they need to add size and a capable post presence before they have any long term success. This draft has a few decent bigs, but no one who can step right in and help Golden State. The most polished big man is probably Kevin Love, but he's not fast enough to play the Warriors uptempo style and I doubt he drops to 14.

At some point Nelson needs to add a player who can be a threat in the post and play with his back to the basket. The Western Conference is loaded with talented big men and you need a player who can match up in the post.

In the Pacific Division alone you have these players:

At some point the Warriors are going to face a physical team in the playoffs and without any viable threat in the post the Warriors are going to lose to those teams.

Current Playoff teams

Spurs - Duncan/Oberto
Jazz - Boozer/Millsap/Okur
Nuggets - Camby/KMart
Lakers - Bynum/Gasol/Odom
Suns - Shaq/Amare
Mavs - Dampier/Nowitzki
Hornets - Chandler/West
Rockets - Yao/Scola

Upcoming teams

Portland - Oden/Aldridge
Clippers - Kaman/Brand

The Warriors need to add some bulk to bang with these teams. They aren't going to compete with a front court of Biedrins/Harrington/Wright.
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I don't know the talent or players in this draft real well. So I can't say who they should pick. But I really do not like this philosophy. It's kind of like the same philosophy that got us POB and perhaps Ike Diogu (though I was pulling for that one as well). I just think the Warriors should choose the player that will produce, no matter what position he plays. Drafting a player to play behind Andris, Wright, Kosta, and Croshere isn't going to help much. But then again perhaps the best player available for the Warriors will be a big, which will just be great.

As far as the Haywood deal. I think Haywood could be very productive for the Warriors. I just don't know how he will fit on the team. I guess just as a tag-team with Biedrins kind of like Dampier and Foyle from the past? Or would one start PF and the other C?

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 25 2008, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The jury is still out on POB and I think he just went to the wrong team because Nellie has never been able to coach or develop post players. Nellie is perfect for bringing life back to a franchise with his brand of basketball, but his teams aren't built for post season success. The Mavs weren't title contenders until they added some bulk and toughness to their front court.

In the playoffs you might be able to shoot the lights out for one series or three out of seven games, but the further you advance the shooting will average out and that's when you need to go to plan B and get the ball inside.

Simply adding a gritty defender in the post who can make the occasional bucket and back tap offensive rebounds would be enough for the Warriors. A player like Oberto or Kurt Thomas or McDyess is exactly what they need.</div>


I agree about post-season success for the most part. If there is somebody available who can matchup with the NBA bigs, especially the ones in the West like Amare, Duncan, Gasol, etc. then I would certainly hope that the Warriors pick him up since it seems as if that would be the best available player at 14. Is Brandan Haywood that guy? I am not so sure. But he may help. But if this type of big is not available, I'd rather see the team pick up a guard who can play and contribute than a big just because the team wants more size. I also think that the Warriors have decent size as it is. Biedrins, Wright, Harrington, and POB should be pretty decent. If nothing comes up at the draft then the Warriors by getting the best available player at least could have a piece to make someone else expendable and try to make a midseason trade a la Baron for Dale Davis a few years back and the Gasol trade this season.

 

What do you guys think about Darrel Arthur? He is a power forward and is athletic and can fit our style of play. Either him or DeAndre Jordan will be good pick ups. Unless Nellie makes Jordan the new POB. Russell Westbrook looks like a good player as well, but I don't know if he could slip down to 14. If he does, that means that we could afford to lose Baron. We need a big man who could help Biedrins, but Westbrook seems like a really good prospect if he falls to 14.

 

I heard lack of heart is the big issue with DeAndre Jordan and sometimes Darrell Arthur (disappearing acts/consistency problems).

I'm trying to look into Javale McGee who I think could be as big of a bust as Jordan or Arthur but has tremendous upside. His highlights look pretty fabulous (He showed evidence he can face-up, he could post up, he had some entertaining dunk highlights (flying 180 reverse dunk), he can handle the ball, he's got some really long arms and fantastic leaping ability. He showed evidence that his hands are good at catching bad passes.) This guy could be a scoring nightmare against power forwards or centers and is athletic.

But heck, these are highlights... Some guy can probably put together the best plays from Foyle, Troy Murphy, and Mike Dunleavy and make them look all-star good. It doesn't really mean crap unless they're doing these things on a consistent basis and in crunch time situations against quality teams. The other thing is we're not seeing what their weaknesses are.

Basketball is about exploiting match-ups in a team context, so if one guy is being a team weakness, he's a problem. He's a weak link. We're not seeing any real flaws in these highlight vids, so for all we know a draft pick could damage our team play by bad decision-making, poor defense, bad hands, poor fundamentals or constant foul trouble. The worst of it all is the nba comparisons that are just way too high for some. Maybe, I can understand nba comparisons to guys like Josh Smith, Joe Johnson, Rashard Lewis, Jermaine O'neal, or Josh Howard, Jameer Nelson because those were guys that either weren't that good initially or got undervalued or maybe have some signature moves that are the same as the nba comparison. I just generally want to ignore any perennial all-star/hall of fame player comparison at lower picks because most nba players aren't that skilled/polished coming into the league these days to have that "it" factor (like Lebron or Dwight Howard or Carmelo Anthony which are rare cases). Most HOF players had at least 4 years of college and were for the most part more ready than today's players. Plus, they could hit their stinkin' free throws! Any nba comparisons to Larry Bird or Ray Allen or Dirk Nowitzki ought to check the player stats for free throws (and maybe rebounding/free throw attempts) before making any comparisons. It's just ridiculous how draft evaluators don't throw out more names to give the reader a better read. Why not mix two players together such as: Emeka Okafor (Ben Wallace meets Alonzo Mourning lite). I think in that context I can tell he's not known for offense, but has more offensive polish than Ben Wallace, can block shots, and is an athletic, strong undersized center type impact.

I don't know... I didn't really get some draft comparisons earlier like Chase Budinger to Brent Barry. It looked like they just compared two guys of the same skin color who can dunk the ball and maybe shoot outside shots. But it's a slightly far-off comparison because Brent Barry can handle the ball and make plays and can shoot free throws. I think the better comparison would have been to Jrich because he's a guy that is stuck between small forward and shooting guard, can dunk, can't really dribble that well, shoots threes, not really a defender, and has some problems with free throws. Like most athletic guys who don't really handle the ball or possess above average playmaking, prefer the open court game instead of halfcourt. Whereas Barry can run the point at duty, I don't think Jrich nor Budinger could do that. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Jrich comparison makes more sense and I even called it before some other reviewer called it, especially in the style of aggressive/hustle play.

Maybe it's just about learning to read between the lines regarding some of these players being reviewed... Javale McGee for instance was either Andrew Bynum or Patrick O'Bryant. Those are two guys with great bodies, great upside, but questionable mentalities. But they all play very different games and have different approaches to the game. I figured JaVale McGee was more aggressive than Bynum or POB but suffers from low basketball IQ and consistency. Plus comparing them to POB and Andrew Bynum tells me hit or miss since at this time one produces while the other doesn't. So that tells me you either develop them and find something to motivate their play or you cast them aside and let them rot. Hmmm... I tell ya beyond the top 3 picks, it's starting to look like feast or famine. The guy who could end up being great, could end up being the biggest bust we've picked in a while. BTW POB doesn't count because he might have a chance to be good under a different coach. We just don't know that.

Oh and another comparison of Javale McGee was Channing Frye. Well I know Frye has pretty good fundamentals/bball IQ, so maybe the issue is consistent production/consistent focus/ability to compete against heavy centers despite having the skills/body of a power forward with a center's foot quickness, and also maybe rebounding problems. I haven't looked that closely, but I'm sure for a guy of Javale McGee's potential to be up and down the board, he must have some red flags which make one believe he could be a huge bust if not developed right.

Also, looking at Darrell Arthur. They say Antonio McDyess as an nba comparison. So that tells me the kid is probably a fantastic all-around athlete with good quickness, good speed, good leaping ability. His bread and butter might be on the defensive end with strong rebounding skills. Is probably an above the rim player and doesn't have the finesse part of his game developed, but has plenty room to become a very good finesse player. McDyess happens to be right now a pretty good midrange shooter although he's lost a lot of his athleticism. Arthur probably doesn't shoot free throws that well and probably doesn't pass the ball that much (Maybe upper 60's to low 70%'s and 1-2 assists a game). So why is this guy so low despite a comparison to Antonio McDyess who used to score 20ppg and rebound and defend very well? Do they mean after the injuries or before the injuries? Maybe it's a read between the lines comparison saying Arthur used to be injured and they don't know if he's been the same player since... Hmmm.... He played for Kansas, so I know he must have faced some good competition. I wonder where the hang up is... He sounds pretty solid. Maybe his body weight isn't that ideal compared to a 245-250 lb power forward prototype?

A good franchise will really evaluate and develop their rookies, so we'll see how good the Warriors are. I'm just trying to decipher what these observers saw or what they envision these players will be at the next level.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clif25 @ May 25 2008, 12:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 24 2008, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bigkallday @ May 24 2008, 12:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i say trade the pick and get a player that can come in and produce and b clutch!</div>

I agree with the Warriors trading the pick, but I think they need to add size and a capable post presence before they have any long term success. This draft has a few decent bigs, but no one who can step right in and help Golden State. The most polished big man is probably Kevin Love, but he's not fast enough to play the Warriors uptempo style and I doubt he drops to 14.

At some point Nelson needs to add a player who can be a threat in the post and play with his back to the basket. The Western Conference is loaded with talented big men and you need a player who can match up in the post.

In the Pacific Division alone you have these players:

At some point the Warriors are going to face a physical team in the playoffs and without any viable threat in the post the Warriors are going to lose to those teams.

Current Playoff teams

Spurs - Duncan/Oberto
Jazz - Boozer/Millsap/Okur
Nuggets - Camby/KMart
Lakers - Bynum/Gasol/Odom
Suns - Shaq/Amare
Mavs - Dampier/Nowitzki
Hornets - Chandler/West
Rockets - Yao/Scola

Upcoming teams

Portland - Oden/Aldridge
Clippers - Kaman/Brand

The Warriors need to add some bulk to bang with these teams. They aren't going to compete with a front court of Biedrins/Harrington/Wright.
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I don't know the talent or players in this draft real well. So I can't say who they should pick. But I really do not like this philosophy. It's kind of like the same philosophy that got us POB and perhaps Ike Diogu (though I was pulling for that one as well). I just think the Warriors should choose the player that will produce, no matter what position he plays. Drafting a player to play behind Andris, Wright, Kosta, and Croshere isn't going to help much. But then again perhaps the best player available for the Warriors will be a big, which will just be great.

As far as the Haywood deal. I think Haywood could be very productive for the Warriors. I just don't know how he will fit on the team. I guess just as a tag-team with Biedrins kind of like Dampier and Foyle from the past? Or would one start PF and the other C?
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I agree we should grab a guy who can produce now and later, but it just depends on how much they can produce for all the areas we need. I wouldn't mind Troy Murphy if he weren't such a blackhole on offense and he wasn't a red carpet on defense. If we're talking Erick Dampier or Jamaal Magloire in their best seasons, I want that consistent nightly double double with physical play. If we're talking role playing by a 40 year old Clif Robinson I'll definitely take that too over some guy that produces in very few areas and doesn't help the areas that we need right now which is defense, inside positioning and ball movement. Heck, I'd take Dale Davis. He doesn't have to score, but he just to go down on the block and make like he's going to score. That alone tricks defenses into how we're going to play the possession. We just go too many wimps and coaches that tell them to stand away from the rim and bomb threes. If they going to do that, I hope they're at least able to run high post offense through that perimeter wimp. I was hoping we could do that with POB or Ike, but scratch that idea. We're just going to let the guards run the show until our big men are capable of running the offense every once in a while.

I wish we could get somebody that's really unspectacular (in the eyes of the average fan) but gives you results and tangible impact on both ends of the floor. Tim Duncan is a good example. The most boring franchise player on and off the court who is not at all athletic for a power forward, gets it done. I love the guy. I'd rather watch Amare, Shaq, D Howard, nets-era Kenyon Martin tear down the rim, but Duncan just has so much skill which leaves me to believe he could very good even when his athleticism wears out. It's fundamentals that are probably the most important right now.

I'm kind of hoping that we get Kevin Love or maybe Kosta Koufos as a big man. If Darrell Arthur can gain weight, I wouldn't mind him. Just anything where we can add big man depth and create trade opportunities.

If nobody big is there, then I want Chris Douglas Roberts because I like his play. I also wouldn't mind Chase Budinger for a Jrich style player. I'm still not settled on any of the high risk-high reward type guys in DeAndre Jordan/Javale McGee. I'm convinced we should stay away from the Seattle Sonics route by taking anything that is 7 feet tall and breathing. It only took them the 2nd overall pick to avoid doing that. Of course, if they got Greg Oden that would be a smart thing if center was the position needed.