Davis Wants to Remain with Warriors

If Baron really wants to remain a Warrior, then he should write a memo saying that he's not going to opt out, but then the Warriors can't trade him either.

 

Okay I love Baron again. Ha ha. See if athletes don't talk about money then I'm totally cool with them. I mean if there's no loyalty what's the point of watching the nba other than to see millionaires coast? But for a guard to be making so much dough and he hasn't really proved much like Steve Nash when Amare Stoudamire went down, I don't know what to say. He wants to win, but real teams make the extra pass and they value their possessions. I would have liked to at least see this team play more like a team. That means better ball movement coming from Baron and also from Sjax. It's kind of silly when Ellis and Biedrins are having high % games and nobody is giving them the ball.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ May 29 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay I love Baron again. Ha ha. See if athletes don't talk about money then I'm totally cool with them. I mean if there's no loyalty what's the point of watching the nba other than to see millionaires coast? But for a guard to be making so much dough and he hasn't really proved much like Steve Nash when Amare Stoudamire went down, I don't know what to say. He wants to win, but real teams make the extra pass and they value their possessions. I would have liked to at least see this team play more like a team. That means better ball movement coming from Baron and also from Sjax. It's kind of silly when Ellis and Biedrins are having high % games and nobody is giving them the ball.</div>

It is really ridiculous when someone on the Warriors is really hot and the team does not feed him (the hot hand). That gets a bit frustrating. That may go on Baron Davis, but also Stephen Jackson.

Also I think this decision still had money implications - I don't know if he'd receive as much money for next season on another team than he will by staying with the Warriors. Nonetheless I am happy to see Baron decide to return.

 

I will wait until Davis actually won't opt out from his last year's deal. But, if it's true, it means that Davis couldn't bully Mullin to get a contract he wants like how Foyle, Richardson, Murphy and Dunleavy used to do. I think money was a huge factor. Davis can get over 17 mils next year, and there is really no way he can get that type of money without Warriors' corporation. All Mullin had to do was saying that we won't corporate with sign-and-trade. Davis may not be happy, but he will still play hard next season, because it's his contract year. And, even if he still is angry with Warriors, he will get the best deal from us, or Warriors have to corporate in order for him to get a good deal via sign-and-trade.

In any case, Warriors have an upper hand on Davis, and I think Mullin is doing a very good job dealing with this situation...

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clif25 @ Jun 1 2008, 11:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ May 29 2008, 08:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Okay I love Baron again. Ha ha. See if athletes don't talk about money then I'm totally cool with them. I mean if there's no loyalty what's the point of watching the nba other than to see millionaires coast? But for a guard to be making so much dough and he hasn't really proved much like Steve Nash when Amare Stoudamire went down, I don't know what to say. He wants to win, but real teams make the extra pass and they value their possessions. I would have liked to at least see this team play more like a team. That means better ball movement coming from Baron and also from Sjax. It's kind of silly when Ellis and Biedrins are having high % games and nobody is giving them the ball.</div>

It is really ridiculous when someone on the Warriors is really hot and the team does not feed him (the hot hand). That gets a bit frustrating. That may go on Baron Davis, but also Stephen Jackson.

Also I think this decision still had money implications - I don't know if he'd receive as much money for next season on another team than he will by staying with the Warriors. Nonetheless I am happy to see Baron decide to return.
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I think Sjax has gotten a bit worse as a team player as he's taken more shots. It never used to be that way with JRich onboard. Plus, we played harder defense last year IMO.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kwan1031 @ Jun 2 2008, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I will wait until Davis actually won't opt out from his last year's deal. But, if it's true, it means that Davis couldn't bully Mullin to get a contract he wants like how Foyle, Richardson, Murphy and Dunleavy used to do. I think money was a huge factor. Davis can get over 17 mils next year, and there is really no way he can get that type of money without Warriors' corporation. All Mullin had to do was saying that we won't corporate with sign-and-trade. Davis may not be happy, but he will still play hard next season, because it's his contract year. And, even if he still is angry with Warriors, he will get the best deal from us, or Warriors have to corporate in order for him to get a good deal via sign-and-trade.

In any case, Warriors have an upper hand on Davis, and I think Mullin is doing a very good job dealing with this situation...</div>

Yeah, I guess we better not count our chickens before they hatch. I've always believed Baron was trying to get locked up so he can get injured and get paid for being injured. It's similar to the Dampier approach except Dampier wasn't an all-star and he's a lot, lot less reliable every year than Baron Davis. Still the injuries excuse still hangs over him. Since this is contract year and he played 82 games, it makes me wonder...

 

Go Baron.

CR, you're a broken record with your Baron concerns

JK man, you're consistent, I'll give you that!

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kensaku @ Jun 3 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Go Baron.

CR, you're a broken record with your Baron concerns

JK man, you're consistent, I'll give you that!</div>

 

Grrr

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kensaku @ Jul 2 2008, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Grrr </div>

I hate Baron! lol!

Nah, I'm sure it was a mutual decision in the end (although I still dislike Baron for changing his mind like that). One side got butt hurt over not getting the contract and would rather play for less money closer to home just for ego and convenience (I guess to be closer to family which is admirable, actually). The thing I believe is you can't build around ego guys unless they're great players (franchise players) like Kobe or younger Shaq otherwise give me humble folks like Duncan and Pierce. We need that max paid player to make others around him better, carry the team, be a real leader, and play rugged D. Those guys give less drama and they win with the right talent surrounding them. Two humble guys that could be great are in my mind, Ellis and Biedrins. I got good feelings about Wright too. We just don't know who leads... They're all so quiet... I guess that falls on Sjax and Harrington now as they will most likely be starting SG and SF now and captains.

But yeah, Baron... he's all about too many other things rather than team basketball like ego, money. There's a reason why he takes too many 3's, there's a reason why he's showing up out of shape to training camps, there's a reason why he's been so injury prone. Thanks for the memories, Baron, but we need less ego, more willingness to play team ball rather than streetball. Baron helped shape the Warriors as a playoff contender, but it probably had more to do with defensive effort and having a guy like Jrich around + a more consistent Barnes around. I wasn't really liking the Warriors until Sjax came back after suspension, so I know Baron isn't super essential for winning, but we need a distributor and replacement scorers. We can win without him as long as we get defense and scoring/shot creation from somewhere at the PG/SG spots (which we probably won't have just yet because Ellis is a sloppy ballhandler and he's defensively not as good as Baron). I really wanted CDR, but Hendrix will be more effective than him because rebounding, interior D, inside scoring is an issue we need to solve. Plus, who knows maybe Anthony Randolph might be a mini Kevin Durant (less range on offense, better D overall).

Remember, guys, we did somewhat solve the trend of role-playing forwards like Brian Scalabrine getting career highs on us by Mullin getting Harrington and Sjax for Murphyleavey.