1. Beasley vs. Rose by the stats. Michael Beasley vs. Derrick Rose 26.2 PPG vs. 14.9 PPG 53.2 FG% vs. 47.7 FG% 77.4 FT% vs. 71.2 FT% 37.9 3PT% vs. 33.7 3PT% 12.4 RPG vs. 4.5 RPG 1.2 APG vs. 4.7 APG 1.3 SPG vs. 1.2 SPG 1.6 BPG vs. 0.4 BPG 3.7 TO/40 vs. 3.7 TO/40 56 eFG% vs. 52 eFG% 61 TS% vs. 56 TS% 1.3 BK+STL/PF vs. .93 BK+STL/PF 39.3 PER vs. 24.1 PER 29.7 EFF vs. 15.9 EFF 1.23 PTS/POS vs. 1.07 PTS/POS Derrick Rose only leads Beasley in a total of 1 of these statistical categories; Assists. I think Derrick Rose should be expected to lead a guy who is supposed to be a "black hole" in assists. So score based on stats: 13-1-1 Beasley. Point Beasley, 1-0 in favor of Beasley. 2. Watching them play. Beasley will enter the NBA with perhaps the best repertoire of offensive moves in the NBA. He has all the moves you could ask for from a back to the basket player, and plenty of good face up moves. He is a great dribbler, will be the best big man dribbler in the NBA from day 1. Breaks out of any double teams, and recognizes him. Great body control. The two knocks on Beasley are his passing and defense. As doug pointed out, the only things Beasley has troubles with is team play stuff. As Doug pointed out in the Bullsbeat, this is likely because he was constantly shifting high schools, and had a rookie head coach in college. His passing suffered as a result of crappy teammates besides Bill Walker, which led Beasley to dribble around the double teams, and still get in great positions to score. Doug said that everything Beasley has been able to work on by himself, he is amazing at, and that with a coach, with a system in place that he can be in for a few years, Beasley should become great at those things because he has the work ethic (confirmed by Jonathon Givony), and physical talents to become great at defense, and his recognition of double teams should allow him to become a great big man passer. Derrick Rose has terrific handles and athleticism. He doesn't appear to have the best court vision. Isn't really a creator in the Chris Paul or Steve Nash sense. Got by by dominating smaller guards who aren't legit NBA size in the NCAA tournament (Chalmers is the exception). Poor jumpshot. Beasley has the better skills set, and has less to develop. Rose has to develop his playmaking abilities and create a jumpshot out of nothing. Again, point Beasley. 2-0 Beasley. 3. Character Michael Beasley wrote on drinking fountains with a sharpies, and yelled "I'm naked" in high school. By all accounts, he has matured since being in college. His academic advisor said he was doing very well. No complaints out of KSU at all about Beasley. Strong mom that will discipline him behind him. Beasley is a total gym rat. As Doug said in the Bullsbeat, Beasley didn't get the way he is by luck. He spent the hard hours in the gym to get the body he has now, and to develop the great skillset he has. Derrick Rose helped a football player, Steven Black's girlfriend, commit adultery. Led to a fight in which Derrick Rose got his ass whooped by Black. Rose put himself in a bad situation by making poor decisions. Rose's lack of a jumpshot indicates he probably doesn't spend enough time in the gym practicing his jumpshot. You haven't heard squat about Beasley out partying, and with girls. You heard those things about Oden, Rose, and Durant. Beasley seems to be more focused towards basketball, and has a better work ethic. Again, point Beasley. 3-0 Beasley. 4. Fit We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years. Thomas seems to be a bust. We have all been clamoring for a superstar, first option, so we could make Gordon a 2nd option and Deng a 3rd option, where they will flourish. Well now we have this guy knocking on our door and people don't want him? Come on. This guy would make Gordon so much better, for the first time since his rookie year, the attention will be off of him. With Rose, there is the situation where we take Rose, trade Hinrich for minor players, and hardly improve at all...that situation doesn't seem likely with Beasley. 4-0 Beasley 5. Miami If we take Beasley, we royally screw over Miami. Rose/Wade will probably be an incompatible duo. Both players will need the ball in their hands to be successful, and neither has a very good jumpshot. Wade/Beasley would be a deadly duo that complement each other perfectly. We would have to go through that every single year, and they'd probably knock us out every year. Rose/Wade doesn't scare me like Wade/Beasley does. 5-0 Beasley. Really, Beasley is the no brainer pick. Hopefully the light bulb has gone off in Paxson's head that Beasley is the no brainer pick already.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 27 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Beasley will enter the NBA with perhaps the best repertoire of offensive moves in the NBA.</div> Not anywhere close to the truth <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He is a great dribbler, will be the best big man dribbler in the NBA from day 1.</div> Not anywhere close to the truth <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Breaks out of any double teams</div> Apparently you didn't watch him in college <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Doug said ... (confirmed by Jonathon Givony)</div> They both work for DraftExpress - the confirmation is meaningless <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Derrick Rose helped a football player, Steven Black's girlfriend, commit adultery.</div> How does an unmarried person commit adultery? <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich.</div> How many of your old posts do I need to pull up to demonstrate that you don't truly believe this?
So the two guys with connections who talked to people involved with Beasley have a meaninglyess confirmation? And the scouting of these guys is useless? Doug watched every single possession of Michael Beasley in college. He doesn't know what he is talking about?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years.</div> You used to trash Hinrich. If what you say here is true, what does that make Rose then?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 27 2008, 11:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So the two guys with connections who talked to people involved with Beasley have a meaninglyess confirmation? And the scouting of these guys is useless? Doug watched every single possession of Michael Beasley in college. He doesn't know what he is talking about?</div> Having read both of them for years (before DX was started), I can say I have very little faith in said Bulls blogger.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 27 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He would so kill Ben Gordon's spiritual ways.</div> PEOPLE WHO PARTY BECOME BEN GORDON'S BACKUP.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 27 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Beasley vs. Rose by the stats. Michael Beasley vs. Derrick Rose 26.2 PPG vs. 14.9 PPG 53.2 FG% vs. 47.7 FG% 77.4 FT% vs. 71.2 FT% 37.9 3PT% vs. 33.7 3PT% 12.4 RPG vs. 4.5 RPG 1.2 APG vs. 4.7 APG 1.3 SPG vs. 1.2 SPG 1.6 BPG vs. 0.4 BPG 3.7 TO/40 vs. 3.7 TO/40 56 eFG% vs. 52 eFG% 61 TS% vs. 56 TS% 1.3 BK+STL/PF vs. .93 BK+STL/PF 39.3 PER vs. 24.1 PER 29.7 EFF vs. 15.9 EFF 1.23 PTS/POS vs. 1.07 PTS/POS Derrick Rose only leads Beasley in a total of 1 of these statistical categories; Assists. I think Derrick Rose should be expected to lead a guy who is supposed to be a "black hole" in assists. So score based on stats: 13-1-1 Beasley. Point Beasley, 1-0 in favor of Beasley. 2. Watching them play. Beasley will enter the NBA with perhaps the best repertoire of offensive moves in the NBA. He has all the moves you could ask for from a back to the basket player, and plenty of good face up moves. He is a great dribbler, will be the best big man dribbler in the NBA from day 1. Breaks out of any double teams, and recognizes him. Great body control. The two knocks on Beasley are his passing and defense. As doug pointed out, the only things Beasley has troubles with is team play stuff. As Doug pointed out in the Bullsbeat, this is likely because he was constantly shifting high schools, and had a rookie head coach in college. His passing suffered as a result of crappy teammates besides Bill Walker, which led Beasley to dribble around the double teams, and still get in great positions to score. Doug said that everything Beasley has been able to work on by himself, he is amazing at, and that with a coach, with a system in place that he can be in for a few years, Beasley should become great at those things because he has the work ethic (confirmed by Jonathon Givony), and physical talents to become great at defense, and his recognition of double teams should allow him to become a great big man passer. Derrick Rose has terrific handles and athleticism. He doesn't appear to have the best court vision. Isn't really a creator in the Chris Paul or Steve Nash sense. Got by by dominating smaller guards who aren't legit NBA size in the NCAA tournament (Chalmers is the exception). Poor jumpshot. Beasley has the better skills set, and has less to develop. Rose has to develop his playmaking abilities and create a jumpshot out of nothing. Again, point Beasley. 2-0 Beasley. 3. Character Michael Beasley wrote on drinking fountains with a sharpies, and yelled "I'm naked" in high school. By all accounts, he has matured since being in college. His academic advisor said he was doing very well. No complaints out of KSU at all about Beasley. Strong mom that will discipline him behind him. Beasley is a total gym rat. As Doug said in the Bullsbeat, Beasley didn't get the way he is by luck. He spent the hard hours in the gym to get the body he has now, and to develop the great skillset he has. Derrick Rose helped a football player, Steven Black's girlfriend, commit adultery. Led to a fight in which Derrick Rose got his ass whooped by Black. Rose put himself in a bad situation by making poor decisions. Rose's lack of a jumpshot indicates he probably doesn't spend enough time in the gym practicing his jumpshot. You haven't heard squat about Beasley out partying, and with girls. You heard those things about Oden, Rose, and Durant. Beasley seems to be more focused towards basketball, and has a better work ethic. Again, point Beasley. 3-0 Beasley. 4. Fit We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years. Thomas seems to be a bust. We have all been clamoring for a superstar, first option, so we could make Gordon a 2nd option and Deng a 3rd option, where they will flourish. Well now we have this guy knocking on our door and people don't want him? Come on. This guy would make Gordon so much better, for the first time since his rookie year, the attention will be off of him. With Rose, there is the situation where we take Rose, trade Hinrich for minor players, and hardly improve at all...that situation doesn't seem likely with Beasley. 4-0 Beasley 5. Miami If we take Beasley, we royally screw over Miami. Rose/Wade will probably be an incompatible duo. Both players will need the ball in their hands to be successful, and neither has a very good jumpshot. Wade/Beasley would be a deadly duo that complement each other perfectly. We would have to go through that every single year, and they'd probably knock us out every year. Rose/Wade doesn't scare me like Wade/Beasley does. 5-0 Beasley. Really, Beasley is the no brainer pick. Hopefully the light bulb has gone off in Paxson's head that Beasley is the no brainer pick already.</div> Lemme preface this by saying I'd take Beasley over Rose, but this post is ridiculous. Using the stats to argue is meaningless. Beasley was pretty much a one man team, and Rose joined an elite 8 team that brough everyone back, of course Beasley would put up superior stats. Beasley would not have the best big man offensive repertoire. He would not be the best big man dribbler (this ones not even close to being true). These reek of shit because they were just pulled outta yer ass. There have been many reports of Beasley being immature throughout the year, but nothing on Rose, except the one story about him sleeping with some other dude's girl. If anything, Beasley is the one with character concerns. Furthermore, adultery is cheating when you are married. Make sure you know what words mean before you use them. You've blasted Kirk Hinrich all the time in the past, and all of a sudden he's a great point guard to prove your point. Ridiculous. The last point is moot. You never draft to "screw over" the team behind you. That's just poor logic.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ May 27 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years.</div> You used to trash Hinrich. If what you say here is true, what does that make Rose then? </div> The way I see this draft, at the top, you have one franchise player, and one allstar level player, with a slim chance of becoming a superstar. Rose reminds me a lot of Stevie Franchise. I think Hinrich will probably bounce back next year, and Rose wil struggle a bit to get his footing in the NBA. I would not be too enthused about next year if we have Derrick Rose on this team. He just isn't the same level prospect as Michael Beasley.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 27 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 27 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Beasley vs. Rose by the stats. Michael Beasley vs. Derrick Rose 26.2 PPG vs. 14.9 PPG 53.2 FG% vs. 47.7 FG% 77.4 FT% vs. 71.2 FT% 37.9 3PT% vs. 33.7 3PT% 12.4 RPG vs. 4.5 RPG 1.2 APG vs. 4.7 APG 1.3 SPG vs. 1.2 SPG 1.6 BPG vs. 0.4 BPG 3.7 TO/40 vs. 3.7 TO/40 56 eFG% vs. 52 eFG% 61 TS% vs. 56 TS% 1.3 BK+STL/PF vs. .93 BK+STL/PF 39.3 PER vs. 24.1 PER 29.7 EFF vs. 15.9 EFF 1.23 PTS/POS vs. 1.07 PTS/POS Derrick Rose only leads Beasley in a total of 1 of these statistical categories; Assists. I think Derrick Rose should be expected to lead a guy who is supposed to be a "black hole" in assists. So score based on stats: 13-1-1 Beasley. Point Beasley, 1-0 in favor of Beasley. 2. Watching them play. Beasley will enter the NBA with perhaps the best repertoire of offensive moves in the NBA. He has all the moves you could ask for from a back to the basket player, and plenty of good face up moves. He is a great dribbler, will be the best big man dribbler in the NBA from day 1. Breaks out of any double teams, and recognizes him. Great body control. The two knocks on Beasley are his passing and defense. As doug pointed out, the only things Beasley has troubles with is team play stuff. As Doug pointed out in the Bullsbeat, this is likely because he was constantly shifting high schools, and had a rookie head coach in college. His passing suffered as a result of crappy teammates besides Bill Walker, which led Beasley to dribble around the double teams, and still get in great positions to score. Doug said that everything Beasley has been able to work on by himself, he is amazing at, and that with a coach, with a system in place that he can be in for a few years, Beasley should become great at those things because he has the work ethic (confirmed by Jonathon Givony), and physical talents to become great at defense, and his recognition of double teams should allow him to become a great big man passer. Derrick Rose has terrific handles and athleticism. He doesn't appear to have the best court vision. Isn't really a creator in the Chris Paul or Steve Nash sense. Got by by dominating smaller guards who aren't legit NBA size in the NCAA tournament (Chalmers is the exception). Poor jumpshot. Beasley has the better skills set, and has less to develop. Rose has to develop his playmaking abilities and create a jumpshot out of nothing. Again, point Beasley. 2-0 Beasley. 3. Character Michael Beasley wrote on drinking fountains with a sharpies, and yelled "I'm naked" in high school. By all accounts, he has matured since being in college. His academic advisor said he was doing very well. No complaints out of KSU at all about Beasley. Strong mom that will discipline him behind him. Beasley is a total gym rat. As Doug said in the Bullsbeat, Beasley didn't get the way he is by luck. He spent the hard hours in the gym to get the body he has now, and to develop the great skillset he has. Derrick Rose helped a football player, Steven Black's girlfriend, commit adultery. Led to a fight in which Derrick Rose got his ass whooped by Black. Rose put himself in a bad situation by making poor decisions. Rose's lack of a jumpshot indicates he probably doesn't spend enough time in the gym practicing his jumpshot. You haven't heard squat about Beasley out partying, and with girls. You heard those things about Oden, Rose, and Durant. Beasley seems to be more focused towards basketball, and has a better work ethic. Again, point Beasley. 3-0 Beasley. 4. Fit We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years. Thomas seems to be a bust. We have all been clamoring for a superstar, first option, so we could make Gordon a 2nd option and Deng a 3rd option, where they will flourish. Well now we have this guy knocking on our door and people don't want him? Come on. This guy would make Gordon so much better, for the first time since his rookie year, the attention will be off of him. With Rose, there is the situation where we take Rose, trade Hinrich for minor players, and hardly improve at all...that situation doesn't seem likely with Beasley. 4-0 Beasley 5. Miami If we take Beasley, we royally screw over Miami. Rose/Wade will probably be an incompatible duo. Both players will need the ball in their hands to be successful, and neither has a very good jumpshot. Wade/Beasley would be a deadly duo that complement each other perfectly. We would have to go through that every single year, and they'd probably knock us out every year. Rose/Wade doesn't scare me like Wade/Beasley does. 5-0 Beasley. Really, Beasley is the no brainer pick. Hopefully the light bulb has gone off in Paxson's head that Beasley is the no brainer pick already.</div> Lemme preface this by saying I'd take Beasley over Rose, but this post is ridiculous. Using the stats to argue is meaningless. Beasley was pretty much a one man team, and Rose joined an elite 8 team that brough everyone back, of course Beasley would put up superior stats. Beasley would not have the best big man offensive repertoire. He would not be the best big man dribbler (this ones not even close to being true). These reek of shit because they were just pulled outta yer ass. There have been many reports of Beasley being immature throughout the year, but nothing on Rose, except the one story about him sleeping with some other dude's girl. If anything, Beasley is the one with character concerns. Furthermore, adultery is cheating when you are married. Make sure you know what words mean before you use them. You've blasted Kirk Hinrich all the time in the past, and all of a sudden he's a great point guard to prove your point. Ridiculous. The last point is moot. You never draft to "screw over" the team behind you. That's just poor logic. </div> But Beasley being on KSU doesn't make him be able to be a dominant rebounder. With that logic, Rose should have the higher TS%, since he had less pressure to score, while Beasley was constantly being double or tripled. Regardless of comparing him to Rose, if you just saw that PER, and said that that guy was playing 30+ MPG, then most would just assume that is the #1 pick. And I never called Kirk Hinrich a great point guard. I think he'd be a suitable 4th option behind Gordon, Deng, and Beasley. Just don't think Rose is all that great, I don't think he is this Chris Paul type player that people keep throwing out there about him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 28 2008, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ May 27 2008, 11:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 27 2008, 11:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Beasley vs. Rose by the stats. Michael Beasley vs. Derrick Rose 26.2 PPG vs. 14.9 PPG 53.2 FG% vs. 47.7 FG% 77.4 FT% vs. 71.2 FT% 37.9 3PT% vs. 33.7 3PT% 12.4 RPG vs. 4.5 RPG 1.2 APG vs. 4.7 APG 1.3 SPG vs. 1.2 SPG 1.6 BPG vs. 0.4 BPG 3.7 TO/40 vs. 3.7 TO/40 56 eFG% vs. 52 eFG% 61 TS% vs. 56 TS% 1.3 BK+STL/PF vs. .93 BK+STL/PF 39.3 PER vs. 24.1 PER 29.7 EFF vs. 15.9 EFF 1.23 PTS/POS vs. 1.07 PTS/POS Derrick Rose only leads Beasley in a total of 1 of these statistical categories; Assists. I think Derrick Rose should be expected to lead a guy who is supposed to be a "black hole" in assists. So score based on stats: 13-1-1 Beasley. Point Beasley, 1-0 in favor of Beasley. 2. Watching them play. Beasley will enter the NBA with perhaps the best repertoire of offensive moves in the NBA. He has all the moves you could ask for from a back to the basket player, and plenty of good face up moves. He is a great dribbler, will be the best big man dribbler in the NBA from day 1. Breaks out of any double teams, and recognizes him. Great body control. The two knocks on Beasley are his passing and defense. As doug pointed out, the only things Beasley has troubles with is team play stuff. As Doug pointed out in the Bullsbeat, this is likely because he was constantly shifting high schools, and had a rookie head coach in college. His passing suffered as a result of crappy teammates besides Bill Walker, which led Beasley to dribble around the double teams, and still get in great positions to score. Doug said that everything Beasley has been able to work on by himself, he is amazing at, and that with a coach, with a system in place that he can be in for a few years, Beasley should become great at those things because he has the work ethic (confirmed by Jonathon Givony), and physical talents to become great at defense, and his recognition of double teams should allow him to become a great big man passer. Derrick Rose has terrific handles and athleticism. He doesn't appear to have the best court vision. Isn't really a creator in the Chris Paul or Steve Nash sense. Got by by dominating smaller guards who aren't legit NBA size in the NCAA tournament (Chalmers is the exception). Poor jumpshot. Beasley has the better skills set, and has less to develop. Rose has to develop his playmaking abilities and create a jumpshot out of nothing. Again, point Beasley. 2-0 Beasley. 3. Character Michael Beasley wrote on drinking fountains with a sharpies, and yelled "I'm naked" in high school. By all accounts, he has matured since being in college. His academic advisor said he was doing very well. No complaints out of KSU at all about Beasley. Strong mom that will discipline him behind him. Beasley is a total gym rat. As Doug said in the Bullsbeat, Beasley didn't get the way he is by luck. He spent the hard hours in the gym to get the body he has now, and to develop the great skillset he has. Derrick Rose helped a football player, Steven Black's girlfriend, commit adultery. Led to a fight in which Derrick Rose got his ass whooped by Black. Rose put himself in a bad situation by making poor decisions. Rose's lack of a jumpshot indicates he probably doesn't spend enough time in the gym practicing his jumpshot. You haven't heard squat about Beasley out partying, and with girls. You heard those things about Oden, Rose, and Durant. Beasley seems to be more focused towards basketball, and has a better work ethic. Again, point Beasley. 3-0 Beasley. 4. Fit We already have a point guard in Kirk Hinrich. there is a good chance that Hinrich will be a better player than Rose for the next two years. Thomas seems to be a bust. We have all been clamoring for a superstar, first option, so we could make Gordon a 2nd option and Deng a 3rd option, where they will flourish. Well now we have this guy knocking on our door and people don't want him? Come on. This guy would make Gordon so much better, for the first time since his rookie year, the attention will be off of him. With Rose, there is the situation where we take Rose, trade Hinrich for minor players, and hardly improve at all...that situation doesn't seem likely with Beasley. 4-0 Beasley 5. Miami If we take Beasley, we royally screw over Miami. Rose/Wade will probably be an incompatible duo. Both players will need the ball in their hands to be successful, and neither has a very good jumpshot. Wade/Beasley would be a deadly duo that complement each other perfectly. We would have to go through that every single year, and they'd probably knock us out every year. Rose/Wade doesn't scare me like Wade/Beasley does. 5-0 Beasley. Really, Beasley is the no brainer pick. Hopefully the light bulb has gone off in Paxson's head that Beasley is the no brainer pick already.</div> Lemme preface this by saying I'd take Beasley over Rose, but this post is ridiculous. Using the stats to argue is meaningless. Beasley was pretty much a one man team, and Rose joined an elite 8 team that brough everyone back, of course Beasley would put up superior stats. Beasley would not have the best big man offensive repertoire. He would not be the best big man dribbler (this ones not even close to being true). These reek of shit because they were just pulled outta yer ass. There have been many reports of Beasley being immature throughout the year, but nothing on Rose, except the one story about him sleeping with some other dude's girl. If anything, Beasley is the one with character concerns. Furthermore, adultery is cheating when you are married. Make sure you know what words mean before you use them. You've blasted Kirk Hinrich all the time in the past, and all of a sudden he's a great point guard to prove your point. Ridiculous. The last point is moot. You never draft to "screw over" the team behind you. That's just poor logic. </div> But Beasley being on KSU doesn't make him be able to be a dominant rebounder. With that logic, Rose should have the higher TS%, since he had less pressure to score, while Beasley was constantly being double or tripled. Regardless of comparing him to Rose, if you just saw that PER, and said that that guy was playing 30+ MPG, then most would just assume that is the #1 pick. And I never called Kirk Hinrich a great point guard. I think he'd be a suitable 4th option behind Gordon, Deng, and Beasley. Just don't think Rose is all that great, I don't think he is this Chris Paul type player that people keep throwing out there about him. </div> I never said anything about TS%. Beasley is a better scorer than Rose, so why would Rose have a higher TS%? He's more of a distributer.
Rose only had 4.7 APG. Obviously this isn't the end all be all, but that should for obviously reasons make you take pause, and really look at Rose's playmaking skills, and ask why his assists were that low.
Also, before the lottery, I said Rose/Beasley/Mayo don't do anything (in regards to us getting a top 2 pick), and that Stephen Curry was the only guy I really liked. Then MN4L said, "Doesn't Beasley in the post excite you?", then I thought about it some more, did a more in depth of scouting of Beasley after the lottery, and am damn sure excited about the prospect of Beasley in the post. I'm not down on Rose because I want Beasley. I just never thought Rose was all that great to begin with.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ May 28 2008, 12:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Rose only had 4.7 APG. Obviously this isn't the end all be all, but that should for obviously reasons make you take pause, and really look at Rose's playmaking skills, and ask why his assists were that low.</div> Not if you watched Memphis play and understand basketball
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Run BJM @ May 28 2008, 12:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_Yinka_Dare_Fan @ May 27 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>He would so kill Ben Gordon's spiritual ways.</div> PEOPLE WHO PARTY BECOME BEN GORDON'S BACKUP. </div> Post of the night!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Beasley is a total gym rat. As Doug said in the Bullsbeat, Beasley didn't get the way he is by luck. He spent the hard hours in the gym to get the body he has now, and to develop the great skillset he has.</div> I'm pretty sure every player has spent hours in the gym. I don't understand where you come up with this ludacris statements. Like KC said, you have such major bias, it's amazing. You just believe so much in one thing, that nothing, not even actual truth will change your mind. Other then that, you're a softy.
Since I've been out of it for a good week and a half due to moving and my computer(s!) flaming out, let me be brief: This is the biggest bunch of nonsense I've read in quite a while. We've had an outrageous stroke of fortune in getting the top pick, and spending it on a guy who gives every sign of being another Drew Gooden or Joe Smith strikes me as downright nuts.
