<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ May 28 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are probably right that Kobe got fouled on a couple of occassions, but Kobe was for the most part taking jumpers in which there was no contact. I remember when Kobe did drive on Bowen, a couple of times he drew a foul on Bowen, however he wasn't in the act of shooting, and the Spurs weren't in the penalty. Anyway for the entire game's perspective I think the Spurs had a slight benefit of the doubt on the calls, which kind of makes sense being in San Antonio. If home calls can be justified.</div> You make it sound like I disagree. I stated the exact same thing.
Yea, you're right. We agree. So what's your predictions for game 5? Lakers with a blowout? man I had a Trojan.Generic.280506 on my computer, and a Trojan.Packed.EK.
I think the Lakers win game 5 comfortably. I don't think Bayless can use Crawford as the reason why the Spurs' lost. They had their chances all game, but couldn't take the lead. He can't say Duncan was intimidated by Crawford, either. Duncan had one hell of a game. Skip Bayless is a fuckin' idiot tool who shouldn't be on television. I mean...he was hitting papers, crying...didn't he pick the Nuggets and the Jazz over the Lakers, too? He's got so much hate for L.A., it's ridiculous.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I'd take the Lakers over the Vegas spread.</div> What's the Vegas spread sitting at, I have no idea how to check that stuff out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ May 28 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ May 28 2008, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah I'd take the Lakers over the Vegas spread.</div> What's the Vegas spread sitting at, I have no idea how to check that stuff out. </div> I believe it is 7 or 8 points. I checked a few sites on google.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ May 28 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It's not the Lakers' fault there was a bad call, it's the league's poor officiating, and Laker fans should be just as concerned.</div> I agree. Like I said earlier every year there's controversy over some call come playoff time........the lakers might get the short end of the stick next time...... </div> i was listening to the DP show this morning, and an emailer said the same thing about the Spurs .. he said that last play was 'karma for the hip check' .. so perhaps you are right
What annoys me about the ending is that it's simply not "fair". I don't mean about the foul calling, or the way the game was officiated. I mean that during that last play, there is absolutely NOTHING that Barry could do to win the game. He gets hit on top of the head, time runs off the clock, and he has no choice but throw a shot with one hand while barely seeing the rim, a shot that realistically has 0% of going into the hoop. That was NOT good defense. Fisher didn't force Barry into a bad shot. The Spurs had no chance to TRY to win the game. If a guy is gonna jump on your head, what can the player possibly do to win the game? There were bad calls on both sides, but the way the game went Spurs just got screwed, not by the call, but by the play and the way it was called. There was simply nothing they could do to win that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 28 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What annoys me about the ending is that it's simply not "fair". I don't mean about the foul calling, or the way the game was officiated. I mean that during that last play, there is absolutely NOTHING that Barry could do to win the game. He gets hit on top of the head, time runs off the clock, and he has no choice but throw a shot with one hand while barely seeing the rim, a shot that realistically has 0% of going into the hoop. That was NOT good defense. Fisher didn't force Barry into a bad shot. The Spurs had no chance to TRY to win the game. If a guy is gonna jump on your head, what can the player possibly do to win the game? There were bad calls on both sides, but the way the game went Spurs just got screwed, not by the call, but by the play and the way it was called. There was simply nothing they could do to win that.</div> But the Spurs shouldn't have had that chance to win the game in the first place.
Shrug. All I'm saying is that the shot was impossible. I'm not disputing the call nor am I saying the previous call was correct. I'm pretending I'm a ref with hindsight. I'm looking back on that play as a ref and I'm asking myself, if I don't call a foul there, do the Spurs really have a chance to win? My answer is "No". Then I ask myself, why can't they win? Did Barry put himself into a bad position? No, he pump faked, got his man in the air and wanted to either pass or shoot. He did everything correctly. Did Barry's defender played extraordinary defense, and that's why the Spurs had no chance to win? No.. complete opposite. The defense played was atrocious. From the point of view of a ref with 20/20, if they don't call a foul there the Spurs have no chance win through no fault of their own, while the other team made a mistake. You know what I mean?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 29 2008, 12:10 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Shrug. All I'm saying is that the shot was impossible. I'm not disputing the call nor am I saying the previous call was correct. I'm pretending I'm a ref with hindsight. I'm looking back on that play as a ref and I'm asking myself, if I don't call a foul there, do the Spurs really have a chance to win? My answer is "No". Then I ask myself, why can't they win? Did Barry put himself into a bad position? No, he pump faked, got his man in the air and wanted to either pass or shoot. He did everything correctly. Did Barry's defender played extraordinary defense, and that's why the Spurs had no chance to win? No.. complete opposite. The defense played was atrocious. From the point of view of a ref with 20/20, if they don't call a foul there the Spurs have no chance win through no fault of their own, while the other team made a mistake. You know what I mean?</div> Oh, I see. Idk, I guess I just can't really talk about that play without bringing up the BS call the play before. And a few other BS calls shortly before the end of the game, made against the Lakers. Karma? Possibly...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ May 28 2008, 11:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What annoys me about the ending is that it's simply not "fair". I don't mean about the foul calling, or the way the game was officiated. I mean that during that last play, there is absolutely NOTHING that Barry could do to win the game. He gets hit on top of the head, time runs off the clock, and he has no choice but throw a shot with one hand while barely seeing the rim, a shot that realistically has 0% of going into the hoop. That was NOT good defense. Fisher didn't force Barry into a bad shot. The Spurs had no chance to TRY to win the game. If a guy is gonna jump on your head, what can the player possibly do to win the game? There were bad calls on both sides, but the way the game went Spurs just got screwed, not by the call, but by the play and the way it was called. There was simply nothing they could do to win that.</div> Exactly! Refs may have screwed each side. Maybe the better team won (just an fyi, I want the Lakers to win the Championship, this season). But Barry did what he was supposed to, and the refs bailed out the Lakers.
Oh well. I still believe And even if .. or when Spurs lose, I still wont mind rooting for the Lakers since I like them a lot too. Hopefully they'll destroy whatever piece of trash rolls out of the east =D
It was a clear foul and it should have been a two shot foul. No one can argue it wasn't a call and I was shocked there was a no-call on the play. I don't like winning games with this type of controversy, but it's pointless getting worked up about it. I think the bottom line for any team in the NBA is similar to what boxers go through. You never want to have the judges determine a fight in boxing, and you never want to put yourself in a position in the NBA for an official to determine the outcome of games based on calls they make or don't make down the stretch.
