NBA FINALS THREAD: Lakers vs. Celtics

Discussion in 'Los Angeles Lakers' started by Mamba, May 29, 2008.

  1. Denny Crane

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  2. The Dream

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>But no one mentioned the Lakers, who outside Kobe and Fisher, are a very young team, with little to no experience in the playoffs. That's one of the reasons why they're losing.</div>

    I actually thought that would be a reason why they wouldn't make it out of the west (along with not having Bynum in the paint). I thought they'd get to the 2nd round, the Conference Finals at best, but they really shocked me when they made it to the finals
     
  3. CelticKing

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 14 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>LeBron</div>

    LeBron will be third, for one reason. He's the most athletic of the three, and thats a big reason for his scoring, rebounding, assists, etc. He's not a pure shooter like MJ and Kobe are. And I don't think he'll ever become one. Of course he'll have some games where he'll go nuts, but not on the same level as the other two.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice @ Jun 14 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Awe, Kobe 8 Ball!

    How the hell are you? I remember all the old school JBB people. . Thrilla, Moo, Shard, Sir Desmond, VooDoo, etc. [​IMG]

    Haha & yeah, I'm a female. lol.

    & huevonkiller - you say Kobe didn't let that happen, but why is he the best player on the team, and let a 24 point lead slip AT home? You can say he was looking for open teammates & they missed the shots, but wouldn't that be the time where Kobe just needs to take over and dominate the game? He didn't and couldn't because of the Celtic defense. Instead he finished with 17 points on 6 of 19 shooting.

    So yeah, Kobe will never be as good as Jordan because one game or not, MJ wouldn't have let that happen. He would have taken care of home court advantage and done everything in his power to win that game.

    And Doc out coached Phil, which is another reason I think they were able to come back and take the W.</div>
    Wow, long time no see Ice! Welcome back!

    And I disagree, it wasn't Kobe's fault that the Lakers choked. Last I knew, it was a team game, and he wasn't defending every single player. Last I knew he wasn't the only one missing shots either. You can blame it on him, but when you blow a lead that big, the loss goes on everyone.
     
  5. The Dream

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He's not a pure shooter like MJ and Kobe are. And I don't think he'll ever become one. Of course he'll have some games where he'll go nuts, but not on the same level as the other two.</div>

    but he does other things better.......
     
  6. huevonkiller

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice @ Jun 14 2008, 10:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>& huevonkiller - you say Kobe didn't let that happen, but why is he the best player on the team, and let a 24 point lead slip AT home? You can say he was looking for open teammates & they missed the shots, but wouldn't that be the time where Kobe just needs to take over and dominate the game? He didn't and couldn't because of the Celtic defense. Instead he finished with 17 points on 6 of 19 shooting.

    So yeah, Kobe will never be as good as Jordan because one game or not, MJ wouldn't have let that happen. He would have taken care of home court advantage and done everything in his power to win that game.

    And Doc out coached Phil, which is another reason I think they were able to come back and take the W.</div>

    Please, Jordan didn't play well in every single game in the Finals. This could happen to anyone except Jesus Christ if none of your teammates are playing well and can't stop anyone. Kobe didn't play nearly as bad as you're claiming.
     
  7. huevonkiller

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ Jun 14 2008, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Who said you had to make the same bet? You don't have to do anything if the Lakers win.

    Yeah when we win, it's only cause they had an "off" night. Sure...

    The Celtics really blew us out on their homecourt, oh no wait....

    Sorry if I doubt the clutch abilities of KG but I do.</div>

    Seriously man the Celtics have owned the Lakers all season long. KG and Pierce won't have that bad of a game again collectively. Odom and Gasol will, because they've shown consistency in the sucking dept. this series. You've had "2 quarters" where your offense was clicking and it both of those quarters the Celtics were flat as a diet soda left open for 3 days. And KG isn't clutch, but with Pierce manning up and living up to his nickname, and Jesus coming down from calvary and kicking ass, there's no need for him to be Mr. Clutch....all he has to do is hold the fort down defensively and do a decent job on offense. Sorry if I doubt the big game abilities of everyone on that team outside of Kobe and D. Fish.
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    You've proven nothing to me with this except that the Lakers have serious issues, and that they're in a bad position right now (pretty obvious). Not that you should be 100% guaranteeing a Series clinching game on Sunday.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 14 2008, 03:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Please, Jordan didn't play well in every single game in the Finals. This could happen to anyone except Jesus Christ if none of your teammates are playing well and can't stop anyone. Kobe didn't play nearly as bad as you're claiming.</div>

    Ha ha ha.

    You do seem a bit biased towards Jesus. [​IMG]
     
  9. huevonkiller

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ice @ Jun 14 2008, 06:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You do seem a bit biased towards Jesus. [​IMG]</div>

    This is a vicious rumor that my enemies have tried to spread about me.

    I hold absolutely no bias towards that amazing individual. :[
     
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    Kobe did play poorly, he was missing his jumper and he barely attacked the rim until the 4th Q. He shot 6-20 which is under 33%.
     
  11. huevonkiller

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 14 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Kobe did play poorly, he was missing his jumper and he barely attacked the rim until the 4th Q. He shot 6-20 which is under 33%.</div>

    He had 10 assists wasn't historically bad to the point where he should be thrown under the bus like this. He was fantastic in the second game yet we lost.
     
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    The assist number doesn't tell the whole story. If someone is being a playmaker and they get 40 possessions with the ball, and his team scores on 15 of them, and he gets 10 assists. That isn't being effective as a playmaker.

    Kobe was handling the ball a lot, Marbury could get 8 or 9 assists every game, but doesn`t mean he was the most effective playmaker.

    Kobe just wasn`t aggressive, until a few plays in the 4th, and just didn`t put the energy into it.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Please, Jordan didn't play well in every single game in the Finals. This could happen to anyone except Jesus Christ if none of your teammates are playing well and can't stop anyone. Kobe didn't play nearly as bad as you're claiming.</div>

    He didn't play terrible, but that wasn't a good game he put out there........

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not that you should be 100% guaranteeing a Series clinching game on Sunday.</div>

    lol, okay................

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He was fantastic in the second game yet we lost.</div>

    he had a good spurt in the 2nd half late in the 4th quarter, but it was far from fantastic.......the word "fantastic" doesn't describe any of the lakers in this series, from the water boy to the head coach.
     
  14. LakerBlood

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    What are the chances of Lakers winning the series? [​IMG]
     
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    Well, there's about a 60% chance of them winning Game 5 at home. They have about 30% chance of winning Game 6 at Boston because historically they haven't done well there, while Boston has. And they have about 15% chance of winning Game 7 because of all the reasons for Game 6, plus Celtics already had 2 Game 7s and survived them.

    So mathematically speaking, 0.6 * 0.3 * 0.15 = 2.7% chance.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dream @ Jun 15 2008, 12:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Please, Jordan didn't play well in every single game in the Finals. This could happen to anyone except Jesus Christ if none of your teammates are playing well and can't stop anyone. Kobe didn't play nearly as bad as you're claiming.</div>

    He didn't play terrible, but that wasn't a good game he put out there........

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Not that you should be 100% guaranteeing a Series clinching game on Sunday.</div>

    lol, okay................

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He was fantastic in the second game yet we lost.</div>

    he had a good spurt in the 2nd half late in the 4th quarter, but it was far from fantastic.......the word "fantastic" doesn't describe any of the lakers in this series, from the water boy to the head coach.
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    Actually, he had one of his best games this season in game 2 according to some stats I've seen on basketball-reference (how they use "game score", although regardless of that, he was pretty damn solid to me).
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakerBlood @ Jun 15 2008, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are the chances of Lakers winning the series? [​IMG]</div>

    Game 5 I'd say 100% out of anger/pride.

    6/7 are toss-ups, but I give them a good shot since every game appears to be close this series.
     
  18. DynastYWarrioR6

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    I'm gonna watch the game at the same place I watched it for their only win....it was the only time I watched it outside of my gf's house lol

    [don't blame me]
     
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    I ain't watching.

    I've been feeling sick, and I'm afraid if we lose, I'm gonna barf.
    At this point, it's a game at a time. IDC we have to go back to Boston. I just wanna win tonight right now.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (LakerBlood @ Jun 15 2008, 01:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are the chances of Lakers winning the series? [​IMG]</div>

    Virtually non existant. The Lakers go fishing tonight, and Garnett gets his ring.

    EDIT: Wait, the Lakers play at home tonight? Ok if that is the case they might win one more game, but once it goes back to Boston it's over.
     

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