OT - Barry on the New Flopping Rule Next Season

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  1. Really Lost One

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Responding to an announcement made by the NBA at its annual pre-draft camp that it will begin imposing fines next season for players who flop, Barry poked fun at teammate Manu Ginobili, often accused of enhancing the effects of contact.

    There goes half of Manu's salary, Barry said.</div>

    http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketb...ok.40511f6.html

    Ouch [​IMG]
     
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    I like the idea of cutting down on flopping, but this doesn't seem like a viable solution. A better alternative is for the officials to have no call on the play and allow the offensive player a clear path to the rim since his defender decided to flop on the ground. It penalizes the flopper during the actual game by taking himself out of a play, instead of going back to game film and fining the guy later. What happens to the actual incorrect call by the official during the game?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Shapecity @ May 31 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like the idea of cutting down on flopping, but this doesn't seem like a viable solution. A better alternative is for the officials to have no call on the play and allow the offensive player a clear path to the rim since his defender decided to flop on the ground. It penalizes the flopper during the actual game by taking himself out of a play, instead of going back to game film and fining the guy later. What happens to the actual incorrect call by the official during the game?</div>
    Yeah, that would be good. You'd just have guys driving their shoulders into defenders left and right, knocking them down to the floor and getting easy layups. If you gave the referees this kind of order, you'd essentially be taking the offensive foul out of the NBA. The whole point is that the refs can't determine whats a flop and what isnt anymore because everyone does it so often. Plus its way too hard to tell if a player flops or not during live action. I for one do not want the refs trying to make that determination live play after play. They'd basically just let everything go as a no call, whether it was truly a foul or not.

    I like the idea of reviewing replays, finding clear flops, and then punishing the player. Even if it doesn't stop flopping, it'll at least ruin reputations.

    (ie. "who's manu ginobili?"
    "oh, he's that guy that's been fined 48 times for flopping this year."
    "oh ok, thats who I thought.")
     
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    It doesn't fix the problem if you do it after the fact. I don't think it's as difficult as you claim to determine a flopper or a person beating the offensive player to a spot and taking a real charge. The problem with floppers is the officials don't really see what happened and assume the guy fell on the floor because the offensive player ran him over. Unless an official clearly saw the play they shouldn't make a call on it.

    If the refs stop rewarding players for flopping then you'll see less of it.

    Does this rule also apply to players who flop on offense?
     

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