New audio feature: Werdum/Vera stoppage question

dont make it significantly longer. that was good enough. keep it short and simple. if it was too long i wouldn't even bother with listening to it. not bad though.

 

ya i get what your saying. idk about just a straight up audio show though... if you edited video/highlights or whatever then it would be worth it. but as long as its audio, why not just type it out?

 

Hey that was actually really nice to listen to, good job man! I thought the length was spot on, too.

I'm not that big into MMA, so I'll admit that the gif helped by giving me a face to the name (as well as a pretty embarrassing goof)

 

Love the idea. I would not mind it being longer and involving some of the posters form S2. I'd listen to it every week.

 

Just listened to it, good length, clear voice. I dont know if there is enough material for a weekly show but if its something that you and other people do after certain events and such I would definately tune in. In reponse to the question posed in the clip I think there is a definite inconsistancy in the reffing. IMO in the situation like the Thompson and Kimbo fight since Kimbo wasnt doing ANYTHING at all to defend himself it shoulda been stopped even if the shots werent hurting Kimbo really badly. In the Vera-Werdum case I think they should let it go on until Vera got rocked and dropped his hands to the side or Werdum got in like 4-5 consecutive clean shots.

 

hey speeds, that was good. I'm sure this will work.
I'd keep it short for a few more times and if you can get someone else on there with you, add a few mins for back and forth.
you could even do a couple a week and keep it to one topic per podcast.. that way ppl could pick and choose if they don't want to listen to them all.

as for the topic, well I found this write up to be bang dead on;

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>It was another not-so great night for Dan Miragliotta Saturday in London. Dare I say it, but I believe the stoppage of Brandon Vera at the hands of Fabricio Werdum was a tad early. I’m not even going to address how much time was left in the round because the issue of time remaining is irrelevant; I’ve talked to officials before and they’ve told me they cannot make decisions based on time. If a fighter is out; he’s out, whether there is 4:59 on the clock or 0:01. Even if you take the time element out of it, it was still an incorrect stoppage. Giving up mount shows poor skills on the part of a fighter but it does not assure automatic victory for the opponent. Vera was in a bad way but was still defending himself. He was eating some shots while blocking others. He was coherent and aside from escaping the position, was doing everything he was supposed to in that spot.

However, the decision once again puts Miragliotta in the center of a controversy and it’s prompting reckless knuckleheads to once again impugn Miragliotta’s integrity with no regard. Two bad calls does not make you a bad official when you’ve been calling fights for years. Nick Lembo, the legal counsel for the New Jersey Athletic Control Board, made a great point in my interview with him last week; which was to ask critics to judge Miragliotta on his full body of work. Up until John McCarthy’s recent retirement, Miragliotta was primarily a New Jersey-based official. Living in Philadelphia, where MMA is illegal, I’ve spent a lot of time in Jersey over the years watching pro and amateur MMA bouts. Miragliotta has been an official for many of them and usually did an outstanding job. Is he perfect? No, but name me an official in any sport who is. If you can lay out a history of bad calls by Miragliotta and want to brand him as a terrible official, by all means, do so. But to make outlandish statements based on two calls just isn’t rational.

The vitriol displayed towards Miragliotta is just downright embarrassing. And I’m willing to bet that a lot of the same people in the forums who proclaimed Miragliotta a great ref simply because he stopped some over-zealous fan in Montreal are now the ones taking a big crap on him and labeling him “retarded” or “the worst official ever!”

Miragliotta’s issue could be that he has too much empathy for the fighters. If you think he looks the part of the fighter, it’s because he is. I don’t think he still competes but I do know he has trained. I also know that Miragliotta at one point was the co-owner of his own fight gym. He’s not some random fan who submitted the NJACB a referee application and said, “I love MMA! I want to be a ref.” No, Mirgaliotta is a guy who has been in the trenches. Perhaps he saw how bad of a way that Vera was in and felt the overwhelming need to protect the guy. Perhaps he saw a look in James Thompson’s eyes that made him feel like the next punch he was going to receive was going to turn his lights out. This is all purely conjecture on my part but my point is, why can’t people just grade his officiating and leave all of the personal nonsense out of it?</div>

We've seen bad reffing in every other sport, you're bound to see it here.
Personally Herb Dean drives me nuts because I think he stops way too many fights too soon. How many times have you seen a guy take a beating and then come back? IMO Herb Dean ruins the chance of seeing a great comeback.

The difference between the Kimbo/Thompson and Vera/Werdum fight is that Kimbo wasn't protecting himself and it could have argueably been called. Vera was covering up and blocking some shots. What was similar is both men looked coherent. I think Dan took a lot of heat for not stopping the Kimbo fight in the 2nd and that may have played a bit on his mind in the Werdum fight.. I'd say that would only be natural.
So he let one go and called one early, it happens and hopefully it will make Dan a better ref.

 

I think Miragliotta made a good call not stopping the Kimbo-Thompson fight, just because the blows did not seem to be enough to put away Kimbo. However I think Miragliotta shouldn't have stopped the fight when he did in the 3rd round, because Thompson seemed fully aware, he was on his feet, and he was still attacking back.

I think he got rocked just as bad in the first round and he managed to get a takedown a little while after it.

I also think the Vera-Werdum fight was ended early, sure Vera was taking hits, and obviously he wasn't fighting back as there is little you can do to attack when mounted. However he was defending and wasn't badly hurt from them.