<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lord no, Redd is awful, one of those guys who will never contribute to a winning team.</div> Why
Redd is a legit shooter this team needs, but I want the Nets to get younger. Trading RJ or Vince for Redd would only make the team a little better, so no thanks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ryan @ Jun 11 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kobimel @ Jun 11 2008, 11:29 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You're correct about the fact that scoring is his main and maybe only strength, but usually he does that better than Miller and Miller isn't a defensive ace himself.</div> I think I would prefer Miller over Redd. True, neither of them are defensive stoppers but Miller is the better rebounder and he seems to be a smart player who can facilitate the offense. To me, Redd seems to be a black hole. Redd will always have higher point totals and the larger contract between the two but I think he will always be the best player on a bad team while Miller can be a great complimentary player on a good team. </div> There are pros and cons to both. But it does depend on needs. Redd has that clutch factor about him where he has proven to take and make the big shot when the pressure is on, not to mention that unlike Miller, when Redd gets in a grove he can score in the 40-50 range. I like Miller he does bring that added bonus of rebounding, but lets not forget a big factor ...superstar potential. As good as Miller is the fans won't buy tickets to see him like they would to see Redd light it up. Were talking All-Star and solid contributor. Stars sell tickets and brings in fans and revenue, Stars and revenue bring in better free-agents. But like I said this is in no way a knock on Miller...the guy can ball. We were just refering to who has more trade value
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lord no, Redd is awful, one of those guys who will never contribute to a winning team.</div> Granted the guy is extremly one dimensional...I would think that a guy capable of putting up 50 any given night isn't awful.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 11 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lord no, Redd is awful, one of those guys who will never contribute to a winning team.</div> Why </div> Takes shitty shots, doesn't grasp the concept of team basketball. Let's not even mention the defense. Makes waaaaaaaaaay too much money, a team can't win paying a guy like this as much as he makes.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 11 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lord no, Redd is awful, one of those guys who will never contribute to a winning team.</div> Why </div> Takes shitty shots, doesn't grasp the concept of team basketball. Let's not even mention the defense. Makes waaaaaaaaaay too much money, a team can't win paying a guy like this as much as he makes. </div> we weren't talking about if he is worth his contract...I know he's not worth that much. I'm just saying that anyone in the NBA who can consistently be a threat to score 50 points isn't an awful player. Shitty shots....eeeehhh....I don't know about all that, for a guy who 's bread and butter is shooting mid-range and beyond, he would have FG% that's alot worse than 45% if he was taking "shitty" shots. AI will go down as one of the best scorers of all time and there were stints where you were lucky to see his FG% reach 35%!!! I'm not compairing him to AI I'm just saying just because he takes bad shots it doesn't make him and awful player. Slacks on D? yes....but if he was that awful of a player that would be saying that if he was dropped right now, no one would want him. he would get paid, because when it's all said and done, if you can score in the NBA you will get paid...ask Houston
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NattaNerNuttaMan @ Jun 11 2008, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 11 2008, 02:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jun 11 2008, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Lord no, Redd is awful, one of those guys who will never contribute to a winning team.</div> Why </div> Takes shitty shots, doesn't grasp the concept of team basketball. Let's not even mention the defense. Makes waaaaaaaaaay too much money, a team can't win paying a guy like this as much as he makes. </div> we weren't talking about if he is worth his contract...I know he's not worth that much. I'm just saying that anyone in the NBA who can consistently be a threat to score 50 points isn't an awful player. Shitty shots....eeeehhh....I don't know about all that, for a guy who 's bread and butter is shooting mid-range and beyond, he would have FG% that's alot worse than 45% if he was taking "shitty" shots. AI will go down as one of the best scorers of all time and there were stints where you were lucky to see his FG% reach 35%!!! I'm not compairing him to AI I'm just saying just because he takes bad shots it doesn't make him and awful player. Slacks on D? yes....but if he was that awful of a player that would be saying that if he was dropped right now, no one would want him. he would get paid, because when it's all said and done, if you can score in the NBA you will get paid...ask Houston </div> So why would I want this guy on my team, again? His contract has to come into play in the NBA when there's a salary cap, you can't just discount his worth compared to what he's paid. Another thing is his passing/court vision. Terrible. Leads me to believe he has a low bball IQ, but I don't really know for definite, or if he's just selfish.
Miller's the better shooter, playmaker, rebounder, has height (mismatch/small ball!), is smarter, and is a better defender (that's not saying much at all about Redd). Basically, Miller's the better all-around player, and I'd take him over Redd any day.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 11 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Miller's the better shooter, playmaker, rebounder, has height (mismatch/small ball!), is smarter, and is a better defender (that's not saying much at all about Redd). Basically, Miller's the better all-around player, and I'd take him over Redd any day.</div> This has delved into a conversation that isn't even relevant to the topic. Miller isn't available and due to Memphis' cap situation I doubt he will be.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 11 2008, 06:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 11 2008, 05:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Miller's the better shooter, playmaker, rebounder, has height (mismatch/small ball!), is smarter, and is a better defender (that's not saying much at all about Redd). Basically, Miller's the better all-around player, and I'd take him over Redd any day.</div> This has delved into a conversation that isn't even relevant to the topic. Miller isn't available and due to Memphis' cap situation I doubt he will be. </div> Okay, then I wouldn't take Redd because he's just as bad, or just a little better than RJ. His defense is worse, and his contract sucks. I'm all for Bell. Or Sessions. Villanueva, maybe. Bogut, definitely.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Astral @ Jun 11 2008, 10:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>... Why would we take Redd if we have VC?</div> To move VC to SF, improve our shooting and spread the floor more.
