<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>People have killed people, over really silly things. Someone said how do you know if this person finds the cure for cancer, well the same could be argued that all the aborted babies could have been the one to cure it. One thing a person could do is, though they kill 1 person, with the 10 mill, they could put 1 mill aside to send food and medical resources to a 3rd world country and a thousand lives that would otherwise die from malnutrition and disease.</div> I would definitely spend my 10 mill on index funds, xbox live, med school, and ostentatious/superficial living ^GMJigga right after pushing the button. Also, Brittish.
Well you are clearly not "Brittish" because you spelt it wrong. Well, if you wanted to make up for the 1 life, you could put aside a million and save a thousand.
I'm surprised no one has said that they would take the button so that they could go find the sickos that would pay money to push the button
Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?</div> To put the lives of people you know, or that have value, in danger, is savage imo.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?</div> To put the lives of people you know, or that have value, in danger, is savage imo. </div> we live in a savage and selfish world, there's no denying that.
Well there would be a 99.9999999% chance that it wouldn't be someone you knew. So I don't think you could realistically consider it someone you know. There is probably a much much greater chance of killing your loved ones by driving them somewhere, or going on a vacation with them, than pressing that button.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?</div> To put the lives of people you know, or that have value, in danger, is savage imo. </div> we live in a savage and selfish world, there's no denying that. </div> Because of comments like that.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well there would be a 99.99999% chance that it wouldn't be someone you knew. So I don't think you could realistically consider it someone you know. There is probably a much much greater chance of killing your loved ones by driving them somewhere, or going on a vacation with them, than pressing that button.</div> Should we kill millionaires to save people in third world countries too? Sounds like you're close to advocating such a thing.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 11 2008, 09:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JCB @ Jun 11 2008, 09:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No. And if you say yes, there's something seriously wrong with you.</div> Is it really that fucked up? People are dying all the time. What is one more person off this over populated Earth? You could be killing Osama Bin Laden or George W. Bush. Will it really matter? We all die eventually anyhow. People die all the time, right this moment someone just died in a car accident.........................someone just died of gun shot wounds. Are you sure you wouldn't press the button? </div> You are making the decision to kill this person. Taking a life isn't "fucked up?" You can't put a price on life, no matter if it's $10 mil or $100 mil. And yes, I'm positive I wouldn't push the button. </div> I'm not saying whether it is fucked up or not. But apparently there is a price on life....$10 million. 11 more people died since my last post at least. </div> Sure. Death is a part of life (is that an oxymoron?). But just because it is doesn't make killing someone just. </div> Who are you to say what is just though? Morality is a subjective concept that's dictated by a person's upbringing, not a universal truth. Anyway, don't act so shocked that people would push the button, because I'm sure that a large percentage, maybe even a majority, of our nation who would push the button. Just look at all of our soldiers killing people in Iraq for the paycheck. </div> This is a cheap shot at our soldiers and it's disgusting. Our soldiers are putting themselves in harm's way constantly and they are just out killing people? That's against military law and they can be arrested and go to jail if they kill someone and the military deems that it wasn't in the line of duty. For the paycheck? That may be the stupidest thing that I have ever read on any forum. Yeah, our soldiers are really making a ton of money. Have you ever seen the number of trailer parks that are in the vacinity of our nation's military bases? They pop up because of ALL THE MONEY that our soldiers are making.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well there would be a 99.99999% chance that it wouldn't be someone you knew. So I don't think you could realistically consider it someone you know. There is probably a much much greater chance of killing your loved ones by driving them somewhere, or going on a vacation with them, than pressing that button.</div> Should we kill millionaires to save people in third world countries too? Sounds like you're close to advocating such a thing. </div> Well if its between tens of thousands of people dying or 1 person dying, I would prefer the latter to happen. Sometimes killing to save thousands of lives can be worth it sure. If you were given the option to kill Hitler to save millions of Jews would you do it?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well there would be a 99.99999% chance that it wouldn't be someone you knew. So I don't think you could realistically consider it someone you know. There is probably a much much greater chance of killing your loved ones by driving them somewhere, or going on a vacation with them, than pressing that button.</div> Should we kill millionaires to save people in third world countries too? Sounds like you're close to advocating such a thing. </div> Well if its between tens of thousands of people dying or 1 person dying, I would prefer the latter to happen. Sometimes killing to save thousands of lives can be worth it sure. If you were given the option to kill Hitler to save millions of Jews would you do it? </div> You're probably going to kill an average person, far from Hitler. And essentially for millions of dollars, so that would be the equivalent to killing an average person who owns millions of dollars, then trying to make yourself feel better by giving some of that income to other countries. It sounds completely disgusting to me, because it's almost as if you're trying to make it sound like you're a hero. So you're in fact in favor of eliminating millionaires? That sounds gross and horrific, to let this bad mentality spread would be harmful to our society. Now at least the other people that said yes aren't lying about their extremely selfish reasons.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> First, your projected hated for other religions on evangelicals is probably a more accurate reflection of your hated for evangelicals. I think most Christians would say that the teaching of Jesus Christ in the New Testament supercede any instruction that comes from the Old Testament. I've never once heard a preacher teach that Christians should perform acts of violence in order to further the kingdom of God. Yes, evangelicals believe that Christ meant it when he said that no one would come to the father except through Him. How does believing that mean that evangelicals must hate people would observe other religions or no religion? It doesn't. Evangelical Christians are called to love others with the love of Jesus Christ with the hopes of converting them to the faith. Why? Because Evangelical Christians believe that people's lives are bettered by having a relationship with the God that loves them. You can agree or disagree. You can bring up examples of failed or misguided Christians that are an embarrassment to the faith. You can ridicule and belittle Evangelical Christians if you want. However, if you really hate Evangelical Christians so much that you promote falsehoods about them and treat them unfairly, you should check your liberal card. My understanding of liberals is that they believe in tolerance and diversity. Personally, I think liberals are full of crap because they are really only tolerant of viewpoints that match their own.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jun 12 2008, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> First, your projected hated for other religions on evangelicals is probably a more accurate reflection of your hated for evangelicals. I think most Christians would say that the teaching of Jesus Christ in the New Testament supercede any instruction that comes from the Old Testament. I've never once heard a preacher teach that Christians should perform acts of violence in order to further the kingdom of God. Yes, evangelicals believe that Christ meant it when he said that no one would come to the father except through Him. How does believing that mean that evangelicals must hate people would observe other religions or no religion? It doesn't. Evangelical Christians are called to love others with the love of Jesus Christ with the hopes of converting them to the faith. Why? Because Evangelical Christians believe that people's lives are bettered by having a relationship with the God that loves them. You can agree or disagree. You can bring up examples of failed or misguided Christians that are an embarrassment to the faith. You can ridicule and belittle Evangelical Christians if you want. However, if you really hate Evangelical Christians so much that you promote falsehoods about them and treat them unfairly, you should check your liberal card. My understanding of liberals is that they believe in tolerance and diversity. Personally, I think liberals are full of crap because they are really only tolerant of viewpoints that match their own. </div> Hey you had me agreeing there until the end. Most of the Liberals I know tolerate religion.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jun 12 2008, 01:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BG7 Lavigne @ Jun 11 2008, 09:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But what if you're an evangelical? If there be found among you, within any of thy gates which the LORD thy God giveth thee, man or woman, that hath wrought wickedness in the sight of the LORD thy God, in transgressing his covenant, And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heaven, which I have not commanded; ... Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing, unto thy gates, even that man or that woman, and shalt stone them with stones, till they die. -- Deuteronomy, Chapter 17:2-3,5 There is a good chance you are doing the work of God, as the odds are you are killing a non-Christian. Would you evangelicals do this if the odds are that you are following the Bible and killing perhaps a Muslim or Hindu?</div> First, your projected hated for other religions on evangelicals is probably a more accurate reflection of your hated for evangelicals. I think most Christians would say that the teaching of Jesus Christ in the New Testament supercede any instruction that comes from the Old Testament. I've never once heard a preacher teach that Christians should perform acts of violence in order to further the kingdom of God. Yes, evangelicals believe that Christ meant it when he said that no one would come to the father except through Him. How does believing that mean that evangelicals must hate people would observe other religions or no religion? It doesn't. Evangelical Christians are called to love others with the love of Jesus Christ with the hopes of converting them to the faith. Why? Because Evangelical Christians believe that people's lives are bettered by having a relationship with the God that loves them. You can agree or disagree. You can bring up examples of failed or misguided Christians that are an embarrassment to the faith. You can ridicule and belittle Evangelical Christians if you want. However, if you really hate Evangelical Christians so much that you promote falsehoods about them and treat them unfairly, you should check your liberal card. My understanding of liberals is that they believe in tolerance and diversity. Personally, I think liberals are full of crap because they are really only tolerant of viewpoints that match their own. </div> Hey you had me agreeing there until the end. Most of the Liberals I know tolerate religion. </div> Maybe the difference is in the liberals that we know. Most liberals I know are as dogmatic as the conservatives that I know if not more so.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?</div> To put the lives of people you know, or that have value, in danger, is savage imo. </div> we live in a savage and selfish world, there's no denying that. </div> Because of comments like that. </div> that's quite a vague comment... care to expand on it? also do you disagree with my comment?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 12 2008, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jun 12 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jun 12 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 12 2008, 01:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yea, that one person could have saved the world from a nuclear war, and saved 6 billion people. But the chances are very unlikely and the 1 million dollars would help a lot of people in a 3rd world country. Anyway, Yinka_Dare are you against abortion under the same reasoning you use, that every aborted baby could save a million people?</div> To put the lives of people you know, or that have value, in danger, is savage imo. </div> we live in a savage and selfish world, there's no denying that. </div> Because of comments like that. </div> that's quite a vague comment... care to expand on it? also do you disagree with my comment? </div> I don't disagree, certainly Lava's mentality doesn't help imo.
