Alexis Ajinca is moving up draft boards rapidly followed closely behind by Roy Hibbert. Ajinca has a wingspan of 7'8" and a jumpshot. Why is anyone surprised at either his or Hibbert's rise? Kosta Koufos outplayed Kevin Love in a workout. How much does that mean when Love's real value is in an up tempto style? JaVale McGee is dropping like a stone and DeAndre Jordan isn't exactly buoyant. Dangerous upside assessments. Darrell Arthur looks like a head case, while teammate Brandon Rush looks like the real deal...and won't be around at #21. J.J. Hickson signed with an agent between his two Nets' workouts. Is that significant? This kid is 19, has a Georgia drawl, but if you listen closely, you can hear some real smarts. Knicks source told ESPN that Danilo Gallinari has "a little Dirk Nowitzki in him". Everything you need to know about Gallinari's ego can be found on his website, that makes VC's official site look like Mother Theresa's. In particular, take a look at his GQ shoot. He fancies himself a sex symbol. I love this game. Courtney Lee has looked very good. Gary Forbes has not. Nets have scouted Lee extensively. Check out what Polinsky said about Jaycee Carroll. Carroll is borderline second round, but an incredible shooter. (Mormon missionary commitment put him in Chile for two years, so he's oldest player in the draft.) Casspi thought he was going to get a first round guarantee. Is he nuts?
I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.
I think this is the least predictable draft in a while...which means a lot of teams would be willing to trade up and down the draft.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.</div> The chance of selecting an offensively capable big outside the top-ten picks is approximately zero.
Haha, I like the comments from the GQ shoot. Seems like he has many fans...of the female type. DO IT THRON!! Help me get wit an Italian chick! I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow. About Love - HA. That's comical. I have no clue who Ajinca is. But this surprises me:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ford)</div><div class='quotemain'>He also played very well at the Golden State workout, prompting one GM to say that if Ajinca had been a college player, he'd be a lock for the lottery right now.</div> Why? And this:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ford)</div><div class='quotemain'>A number of teams -- including a few in the lottery, such as the Clippers, Bobcats, Nets and Raptors -- are taking a close look at him. We've been projecting him as a late first-round pick, but given the positive feedback recently, he'll be moving up considerably in our next mock draft.</div> Now, where's this coming from that DA is a headcase? That's news to me...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.</div> The chance of selecting an offensively capable big outside the top-ten picks is approximately zero. </div> A college player maybe but someone from Europe? This draft blows! Haha.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jun 16 2008, 09:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think this is the least predictable draft in a while...which means a lot of teams would be willing to trade up and down the draft.</div> I think that, in five years, this draft will look a lot like the 2005 and 2006 drafts. A couple of diamonds in a field of coal. I just hope that the Nets choose wisely, because this draft will be very, very important for the next three or four years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 09:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.</div> The chance of selecting an offensively capable big outside the top-ten picks is approximately zero. </div> A college player maybe but someone from Europe? This draft blows! Haha. </div> Eurpean bigs have a better chance of becoming contributors--see, for instance, Krstic and Okur. However, they also have a bigger chance of being totally worthless within 18 months.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow.</div> No one has 2 picks later in the draft. If Phoenix didn't send their pick to Seattle they would've had #15 and #24. Would've given you #15, #21, and #24. Oh well. Lawson pulling out of the draft just gave Marcus more value. Maybe Marcus and #40 to Denver for #20? Maybe Stefanski would want his prized pick in Philly?
haha everytime I look at this kid he reminds me more and more of Boki; first it was his game, now this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eurpean bigs have a better chance of becoming contributors--see, for instance, Krstic and Okur. However, they also have a bigger chance of being totally worthless within 18 months.</div> The only reason why you might say that is that they aren`t as well scouted sometimes than American bigs. I don`t think you can argue that Okur or Krstic would be more valuable than Dwight, Bynum, Okafor, Horford, whoever.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 16 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow.</div> No one has 2 picks later in the draft. If Phoenix didn't send their pick to Seattle they would've had #15 and #24. Would've given you #15, #21, and #24. Oh well. Lawson pulling out of the draft just gave Marcus more value. Maybe Marcus and #40 to Denver for #20? Maybe Stefanski would want his prized pick in Philly? </div> I think we should aim for Portland's picks. They're probably looking to move theirs the most. Maybe get Przbilla off their hands for an expiring, along with 1 of or both of their 2nd round picks...Idk, try to work something out.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 16 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eurpean bigs have a better chance of becoming contributors--see, for instance, Krstic and Okur. However, they also have a bigger chance of being totally worthless within 18 months.</div> The only reason why you might say that is that they aren`t as well scouted sometimes than American bigs. I don`t think you can argue that Okur or Krstic would be more valuable than Dwight, Bynum, Okafor, Horford, whoever. </div> whoops--sorry if I'm not clear. I'm still just talking about bigs taken outside the top ten or lottery. Over the past ten years, bigs taken after that point have a terrible track record--so bad, in fact, that Boone is probably in the upper third of non-lottery successes among PFs and centers.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.</div> The chance of selecting an offensively capable big outside the top-ten picks is approximately zero. </div> Not necessarily zero. There was David West and Al Jefferson, to name a couple off the top of my head. Improves chances a little bit.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 16 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow.</div> No one has 2 picks later in the draft. If Phoenix didn't send their pick to Seattle they would've had #15 and #24. Would've given you #15, #21, and #24. Oh well. Lawson pulling out of the draft just gave Marcus more value. Maybe Marcus and #40 to Denver for #20? Maybe Stefanski would want his prized pick in Philly? </div> I think we should aim for Portland's picks. They're probably looking to move theirs the most. Maybe get Przbilla off their hands for an expiring, along with 1 of or both of their 2nd round picks...Idk, try to work something out. </div> Cpaw, who claims to know someone in Portland's front office, states that is a pipe dream. Seattle may be interested in ditching #24 and #42, even if for no other reason than they seem to be intent on pissing off their fan base.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Jun 16 2008, 09:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I thought Ajinca would fall after saying he'd stay in Europe a year but people are liking his shooting touch like you stated. With all the bigs dropping and some big named gaurds going back to school, maybe we should look for a big in the second round rather than at 10 and 21.</div> The chance of selecting an offensively capable big outside the top-ten picks is approximately zero. </div> Not necessarily zero. There was David West and Al Jefferson, to name a couple off the top of my head. Improves chances a little bit. </div> Boozer, too. There are a few, but it is like planning on winning the lottery.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lavalamp @ Jun 16 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 10:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Eurpean bigs have a better chance of becoming contributors--see, for instance, Krstic and Okur. However, they also have a bigger chance of being totally worthless within 18 months.</div> The only reason why you might say that is that they aren`t as well scouted sometimes than American bigs. I don`t think you can argue that Okur or Krstic would be more valuable than Dwight, Bynum, Okafor, Horford, whoever. </div> whoops--sorry if I'm not clear. I'm still just talking about bigs taken outside the top ten or lottery. Over the past ten years, bigs taken after that point have a terrible track record--so bad, in fact, that Boone is probably in the upper third of non-lottery successes among PFs and centers. </div> oh ok. Under that context it makers more sense.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jun 16 2008, 11:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 16 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow.</div> No one has 2 picks later in the draft. If Phoenix didn't send their pick to Seattle they would've had #15 and #24. Would've given you #15, #21, and #24. Oh well. Lawson pulling out of the draft just gave Marcus more value. Maybe Marcus and #40 to Denver for #20? Maybe Stefanski would want his prized pick in Philly? </div> I think we should aim for Portland's picks. They're probably looking to move theirs the most. Maybe get Przbilla off their hands for an expiring, along with 1 of or both of their 2nd round picks...Idk, try to work something out. </div> Cpaw, who claims to know someone in Portland's front office, states that is a pipe dream. Seattle may be interested in ditching #24 and #42, even if for no other reason than they seem to be intent on pissing off their fan base. </div> What exactly are you claiming that I said? Also, I never said I know someone in the Portland Front Office. I always said my information is indirect.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 16 2008, 11:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jun 16 2008, 10:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm starting to think we should trade the 10th and 40th for 2 later 1st round picks, and pick up Hibbert, Lee, and someone else real good. Somehow.</div> No one has 2 picks later in the draft. If Phoenix didn't send their pick to Seattle they would've had #15 and #24. Would've given you #15, #21, and #24. Oh well. Lawson pulling out of the draft just gave Marcus more value. Maybe Marcus and #40 to Denver for #20? Maybe Stefanski would want his prized pick in Philly? </div> I think we should aim for Portland's picks. They're probably looking to move theirs the most. Maybe get Przbilla off their hands for an expiring, along with 1 of or both of their 2nd round picks...Idk, try to work something out. </div> Who are your expiring contracts? I'd go for a trade based on Przybilla for Collins if you still had him.
Swift has one for 6.2M. I think we can move KVH for no cost for the other team at something like 4.5, but I never really understood that.
