Obama has makings for electoral blowout.

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  1. Денг Гордон

    Денг Гордон Member

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    Safely Obama States: (5+ Lead)
    California (+14)
    Colorado (+6)
    Connecticut (+12.5)
    District of Columbia( +70.7)
    Delaware (+13.4)
    Hawaii (+22.5)
    Iowa (+9.3)
    Illinois (+18.4)
    Massachusetts (+15.9)
    Maryland (+15.7)
    Maine (+12.8)
    Minnesota (+12.5)
    New Jersey (+9.9)
    New York (+16)
    Oregon (+11.4)
    Pennsylvania (+6.7)
    Rhode Island (+15.6)
    Vermont (+25.8)
    Washington (+15.8)
    Wisconsin (+7.1)



    Leaning Obama (3-5 point lead)
    Ohio (Obama +2.9)

    Tossups (Less than 3 lead by candidates)
    Florida (McCain +2)
    Indiana (McCain +0.7)
    Michigan (Obama +1.6)
    Missouri (Obama +0.3)
    North Carolina (McCain +2.7)
    New Hampshire (Obama +2.6)
    New Mexico (Obama +2.5)
    Nevada (McCain +0.4)
    Virginia (Obama +1.8)




    Leaning McCain
    Montana (+4.2)
    North Dakota (+3.2)

    Safely McCain
    Alaska (+5.3)
    Alabama (+20.9)
    Arkansas (+12.2)
    Arizona (+12.1)
    Georgia (+8.7)
    Kansas (+9.7)
    Kentucky (+21.3)
    Louisiana (+9.3)
    Idaho (+22.4)
    Mississippi (+11.8)
    Nebrasksa (+12.8)
    Oklahoma (+18.1)
    South Carolina (+7.9)
    South Dakota (+5.4)
    Tennessee (+13.6)
    Texas (+11.2)
    Utah (+29.4)
    West Virginia (+7.2)
    Wyoming (+18.1)

    Now the first thing that needs to stand out is that 8 of the 10 toss up states were won by Republicans last time around. Then you see that one of the two Democratic won toss ups is only worth 4 electoral votes. Then you see Ohio...which I know for a fact after they incorporate the latest Ohio poll, will move into the leaning Obama category...so I'll go ahead and move that there.

    So:

    Safely: Obama 247 McCain 157

    Obama is only 23 electoral votes shy when you look at just locks.

    Adding leaners:

    Leaners: Obama 267 McCain 163

    That leaves 108 electoral votes in toss ups.

    If you add each state in what they are leaning at the moment, you get:

    Obama 317 McCain 221

    That is a pretty good margin of victory. The landslide is determined as 375+ EV. To get this, Obama wold have to win all of the tossup states.

    http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
     
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    Tim Russert before he died said the election would come down to four states. Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico.

    There's a lot, A LOT to be decided between now and the conventions, but I think in the end Colorado is going to be a big state, and I think that it's going to go Obama this fall. He's got a lot going for him overall in this map.
     
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    It looks 244 Obama to 201 McCain with a lot of states up for grabs.

    McCain is up 7% in the most recent poll in Florida. Ooops, so much for the line of reasoning and facts in the first post.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 17 2008, 01:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tim Russert before he died said the election would come down to four states. Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico.

    There's a lot, A LOT to be decided between now and the conventions, but I think in the end Colorado is going to be a big state, and I think that it's going to go Obama this fall. He's got a lot going for him overall in this map.</div>

    Most recent polls:
    Obama up 6 in Colorado
    McCain up 2 in Nevada
    McCain up 11 in Arizona
    Obama up 4 in New Mexico

    15 EVs for McCain, 14 for Obama
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jun 17 2008, 03:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Tim Russert before he died said the election would come down to four states. Colorado, Nevada, Arizona, and New Mexico.

    There's a lot, A LOT to be decided between now and the conventions, but I think in the end Colorado is going to be a big state, and I think that it's going to go Obama this fall. He's got a lot going for him overall in this map.</div>

    If you follow the Rasmussen balance of power calculator, they have it at Obama 260 vs. McCain 240, with 4 tossups: Colorado, New Hampshire, Nevada, and Ohio.

    Colorado is huge because it likely will be the state that guarantees Obama at least a 269 tie in a close election. Then anything from holding onto New Hamsphire, or winning the first congressional district in Nebraska would give Obama the election.
     
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    Alright BG7, nice numbers.

    Don't forget to make your pick in the Chick thread either.
     

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