How about that 2nd round pick!

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  1. Denny Crane

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    Hey Pax,

    Did you bother to watch any game film of Derrick Rose? Didn't you see his back court mate in the film? How in the world could you pass up CDR for Sonny Weems!

    Bah
     
  2. pegs

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    To me, Sonny Weems will forever be known as "Not CDR". Thank you, Pax!
     
  3. Denny Crane

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    ^^^ You think if we took CDR that the Nets would have picked Weems?

    LOL
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 26 2008, 11:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>^^^ You think if we took CDR that the Nets would have picked Weems?

    LOL</div>

    No, we would have picked another big man [​IMG]
     
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    Weems was a solid pick. While CDR was probably the better choice (especially at that point of the draft), Weems was perfectly fine. Good player.
     
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    Yeah, yeah. Tyrus Thomas is a solid pick too, but the better choice was Aldridge.

    Oh wait, he did pick Aldridge and traded him for Thomas.

    What a judge of talent.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 26 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, yeah. Tyrus Thomas is a solid pick too, but the better choice was Aldridge.

    Oh wait, he did pick Aldridge and traded him for Thomas.

    What a judge of talent.</div>
    Funny how at the time everyone thought that Paxson was a genius.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dtay @ Jun 27 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 26 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, yeah. Tyrus Thomas is a solid pick too, but the better choice was Aldridge.

    Oh wait, he did pick Aldridge and traded him for Thomas.

    What a judge of talent.</div>
    Funny how at the time everyone thought that Paxson was a genius.
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    That annoyed the hell out of me. NBA fans always think they can judge collegiate talent just by reading the newspaper and watching highlight clips, passing on secondhand opinions. I remember going page after page with fans in the Bulls forum about Thomas vs. Aldridge, eventually just getting frustrated and leaving.

    Sonny Weems isn't as good as CDR, but it's not like CDR is going to be the game changer people are making him out to be. He'll be a solid energy player off the bench in a 10 mpg role, but Weems will be able to do everything they would have asked for from CDR none the less. If you put Weems on Memphis and CDR on Arkansas, the hype would be reversed.
     
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    ...and Sonny Weems has already been traded. For a Turkish center prospect.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (King Joseus @ Jun 27 2008, 01:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>...and Sonny Weems has already been traded. For a Turkish center prospect.</div>

    That isn't what I heard

    http://www.denverpost.com/sports/ci_9713145

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Nuggets decided to make a move on draft night, a minor one, acquiring second-rounder Sonny Weems from Chicago for a second-rounder in 2009. The trade is pending league approval.

    The 6-foot-6 forward from Arkansas was taken with the 39th pick overall. He averaged 15.0 points last season as a senior.</div>
     
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    Conflicting reports

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baske...0,6281089.story

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Bulls' 2nd pick: Center Omer Asik, Turkey
    7-0, No. 36 overall

    11:54 PM CDT, June 26, 2008

    Bulls received this pick from Portland in a trade for the Bulls' 39th pick, Arkansas swingman Sonny Weems.

    Asik is a work in progress who played for Alpella Istanbul last season and is expected to stay overseas to develop. At 220 pounds, he is considered underweight for a center— and a little unathletic.

    Shoots below 50 percent from the free-throw line. Good reach, good hands and a capable shot-blocker. Likes playing with his back to the basket. A late bloomer who has progressed considerably over the last two years</div>

    and

    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Blazers agreed to send Asik to the Bulls for three future second-round picks. I think Asik could be one of the steals of the second round ... if he ever comes over. He's a hyperactive rebounder and shot-blocker with good athleticism. John Hollinger said his numbers suggest he should've been a top-10 pick. He's a talent, but he may be in Turkey for the next few years developing his game.</div>

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nbadraft/draft/t...008&round=2

    My guess is the Chicago Tribune is wrong
     
  12. Денг Гордон

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    Bulls traded Sonny Weems to Denver for a pick, which the packaged with other picks to Portland for Asik.

    Omar Asik seems like a solid pickup. Good defender, rebounder. Very active guy, would be good in a fast paced system. (Reminds me of Robin Lopez quite a bit).

    Will be nice to bring over in a few years.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 27 2008, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dtay @ Jun 27 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 26 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, yeah. Tyrus Thomas is a solid pick too, but the better choice was Aldridge.

    Oh wait, he did pick Aldridge and traded him for Thomas.

    What a judge of talent.</div>
    Funny how at the time everyone thought that Paxson was a genius.
    </div>

    That annoyed the hell out of me. NBA fans always think they can judge collegiate talent just by reading the newspaper and watching highlight clips, passing on secondhand opinions. I remember going page after page with fans in the Bulls forum about Thomas vs. Aldridge, eventually just getting frustrated and leaving.

    Sonny Weems isn't as good as CDR, but it's not like CDR is going to be the game changer people are making him out to be. He'll be a solid energy player off the bench in a 10 mpg role, but Weems will be able to do everything they would have asked for from CDR none the less. If you put Weems on Memphis and CDR on Arkansas, the hype would be reversed.
    </div>

    At the time I was leaning towards Aldridge as well, however I wasn't upset with the trade. I still don't think Aldridge is that good, but still will be better than Thomas.

    As for CDR i think he'll be a solid pro who will be a solid starting SG or a very good 6th man. I think he should have gone in the 20's. But I agree he is not a game changer.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Voodoo Child @ Jun 26 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dtay @ Jun 27 2008, 12:02 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jun 26 2008, 10:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yeah, yeah. Tyrus Thomas is a solid pick too, but the better choice was Aldridge.

    Oh wait, he did pick Aldridge and traded him for Thomas.

    What a judge of talent.</div>
    Funny how at the time everyone thought that Paxson was a genius.
    </div>

    That annoyed the hell out of me. NBA fans always think they can judge collegiate talent just by reading the newspaper and watching highlight clips, passing on secondhand opinions. I remember going page after page with fans in the Bulls forum about Thomas vs. Aldridge, eventually just getting frustrated and leaving.

    Sonny Weems isn't as good as CDR, but it's not like CDR is going to be the game changer people are making him out to be. He'll be a solid energy player off the bench in a 10 mpg role, but Weems will be able to do everything they would have asked for from CDR none the less. If you put Weems on Memphis and CDR on Arkansas, the hype would be reversed.
    </div>

    I don't think CDR is a game changer by any means. He was the best player available, considered a steal in the 2nd round, and the 2nd round is a good time to gamble (vs. the #2 pick in the draft on/for Thomas).

    If it is true that Weems is gone and we got the C from Turkey, then I have no beef anymore about it.
     
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    I was mad on draft night, but CDR would never have seen the light of day in the Bulls rotation. Nocioni? Deng? Tyrus? I'm feeling this Euro kid we traded for, he seems to be getting alot of praise our roster was too stacked to take CDR as much as I would have loved to see the headlines he would have ended up like Derrick Byars did last yr with the 76ers.
     
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    The Celtics staff said that they didn't like CDR's defense and that was the reason why they decided to go with Giddens with the 30th pick.
     

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