<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Vince Carter is sure to be excised next, it says here, and it's likely to be sooner than later. In fact, sources swear the Nets could have traded Carter yesterday had management merely wanted to dump salary, a $70M, 5-year guarantee. But apparently the plan, at least for the moment, is to secure an asset or two in the process.</div> New York Post
I personally didnt think they would trade Carter, or be able to get value for him. IF they do it's obviosly got to include some 2 or 3 guard prospects. Don't know who they would be so your guess is as good as mine.
Said it in the other thread - but it should happen mid-season, after he's boosted his value putting up amazing numbers on this poor team, and some team (like the Suns or Jazz) wants to add a piece for a championship run.
Say if Pierce was available, would you do that trade? Carter for Pierce straight up? (lets say that salaries worked etc)
I really think it would be best for the nets to go all young and get rid of a 31 year old big contract player who doesnt fit in. vince to phoenix...shaq wants to play with vince or vince to utah/new orleans...they need a slasher/SG Orlando is another one I would want for vince but they probably have no cap room for him and Cleveland would be nice to team with lebron and give him an extra 24ppg 6rbs 5asts per game new jersey would then have a lot of space for lebron in '10 and a young team to watch in the meantime
I would pay significant money to watch Pierce's raction when Danny Ainge mentions that he has been traded to New Jersey for Carter. I see no reason why the Celtics would or should trade Pierce for Carter. He was the Finals MVP for God's sake!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jun 27 2008, 10:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Say if Pierce was available, would you do that trade? Carter for Pierce straight up? (lets say that salaries worked etc)</div> Well, considering the Nets might be targeting the 2010 draft class and Pierce makes 4 million more than Carter that season and plays the same position as Lebron and also Pierce alone with a bunch of young guys won't take the Nets anywhere it wouldn't make much sense to do that trade.
No I was just saying, as Nets fans would you want Pierce or Carter at this point of their careers. Personally I wouldn't mind either one.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jun 27 2008, 11:37 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Say if Pierce was available, would you do that trade? Carter for Pierce straight up? (lets say that salaries worked etc)</div> Um...no. I don't think that would make sense for the Nets, at this point. Plus, would I, personally? No, I don't like Peirce that much.
no way we trade carter.. we at least need 1 veteran on the team... and this is VC's team now, i wana see what he can do
there are so many reasons that Carter shouldn't be traded right now, but lazy writers will always go for no brainer articles. Vince is now the Captain, second best point guard, can draw a double coverage, has got to be in a fantastic situation to sell shoes, and is the public face of the franchaise. I think this team is in great shape as far as age and salary, and Carter can keep the team steady.
look i really expect us to make the playoffs this season... i think this lineup can actually make the playoffs... this is a new ERA for the nets.... the post jkidd era... lets see what carter can do
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jun 27 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>No I was just saying, as Nets fans would you want Pierce or Carter at this point of their careers. Personally I wouldn't mind either one.</div> I don`t think it would make sense for either team. It also depends on what kind of Carter showed up to play, and what kind of Pierce showed up to play for NJ (after being traded off a championship team). I think Carter at his best is better than Pierce at his best, but Carter doesn't attack the hoop as much as Pierce. 1. Carter is more flashy and exciting compared to Paul Pierce, and if the team will lose with Pierce or Carter, most fans would rather have Carter. 2. Pierce is a guy that will slash a lot and get effective baskets, and be the playmaker (although Carter is also quite good at this), which Boston needs. Carter is a better shooter and can take more shots, but Boston already has Allen, who is a great ranged shooter, and KG likes wandering out for deep 2s, and House and Posey.
I don't think Carter is going anywhere. Part of the development of some of these young guys involves playing with high caliber NBA professionals. Players like Lopez and Yi will get much better playing with Carter because of the opportunities and space he creates for them. We don't need to create anymore cap space to get Lebron. There would be way too much on Harris' young shoulders without Carter here. If Carter doesn't want to be a part this process then by all means trade him, but if he is along for the ride then I think he can make a positive difference.
If the roster remains intact, i expect Carter to go a la iverson on the Nets. Pierce aint shit, who cares about finals MVP? TP9 won that, does that makes him better than CP, Nash, iverson, kidd or DW? Geez
I think it depends on whether the Nets are at all willing to take on another long-term contract -- today -- if the right deal presented itself or whether they are TRULY going all out for LBJ and are determined not to add any salary beyond 2010. For example, suppose the Wizards approached with a sign and trade offer of Jameson or that Brand opts out and will consider NJ in a S &T. Would the Nets be willing to move some of these young players and take back established vets with contracts that will prevent NJ from making an outright offer to James in 2010? If not, then the only purpose in keeping Carter around is to tutor younger players and give the Nets a name and a face to keep some semblance of continuity and public interest over the next two years. They will make him an itinerant farmer, the guy who does all the tilling, fertilizing, watering, and nurturing but in the end knows the crops will be harvested by someone else. I don't think Carter would deliberately shirk the responsibility of doing this, given the hyper scrutiny he will surely come under and his presumed desire to rescue his (mostly unjust) reputation as a "quitter". But it's only human nature that, at 31, he would find the task of carrying a team full of infants overwhelming. Right now, Harris is the only guy with both the skill and experience/poise to share that load, and one is not enough. He and Carter have to feel like they have enough veteran help to stay competitive in games or their own morale will tumble very low. The Nets may not care so much if Carter goes through that, but they have to care if Harris does since he's the PG of the future as well as of the present and someone whose own continued growth they must ensure. So even if they don't bring in long term contracts, they need to trade some youth/picks for at least ONE quality vet now.
I wouldn't be surprised if that offer was from Cleveland. They have the expiring contracts to make it work, even if they don't have much other tradable assets.
i dont think thorn or kiki would even try to help out the cavs... why make james like the cavs? doesnt benefit them at all... he wants james to despise danny ferry... and the job hes doing tryin to put pieces around him...
