Please introduce the Nets offense and defensive schemes to the newer fans

What kind of offense does the Nets run and what is expected out of the PF? I'm interested in how Yi will be used (if he's used...). Also what kind of coach is Franks. I know he values defense, but how much. I mean he played Boki freaking Nochbar playoff minutes so there musn't have been that much of a value on defense.

I'm guessing with the addition of Harris there will be lots more pick and roll, but does Franks prefer more half court or up and down? Also can someone expand on their coaches? Who coaches the big guys?

In Houston the rockets first hired Patrick Ewing and now they have Jack Sikma for yao... Milwaukee had yeah (not much)... who is coaching Sean Williams and Krstic?

Also whats the situation with Kristic? I remember he used to be pretty damn good 2-3 years ago.

 

Frank likes bball player with high bball IQs. We played a princeton like offense last year. This
year will probably be more of a uptempo offense with Harris. In half court, lots of pick and rolls, pops.
Yi could make alot of money with VC & Harris. We really didnt have a good bench last year. Thats why
Nachbar played so much. This is year I dont know about the bench with all these young guys. Almost
all of our assistants left us, so I dont know who coaches the big man. Bill Cartwright coached the bigs last year
but he left. We extended the qualifying offer to Krstic. We are going to have so many bigs next year unless
we make a trade.

 

Another question... are Devin Harris's flopping skills contagious? If they are i might just have to go kill Yi before he ever joins the nets.

 

If Yi truly does thrive in the 20 ft range, he will love playing with VC in the pick and roll/pop.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ffz @ Jun 27 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Another question... are Devin Harris's flopping skills contagious? If they are i might just have to go kill Yi before he ever joins the nets.</div>
I dont really know about that. He had that ankle injury when he came here, so he didnt really take charges
like he did in Dallas. I dont think he flops

 

It's hard to tell exactly what we are looking to do this year but it seems like we are more of a half court team now that we are getting bigger. I can tell you this much though, in years past our main offense was the fast break and our Defense sucked but we would get a lot of blocks. It was an exciting team but we sucked. Eye popping dunks and crazy blocks were awesome but didn't translate into wins. Welcome btw.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jun 27 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank likes bball player with high bball IQs. We played a princeton like offense last year. This
year will probably be more of a uptempo offense with Harris. In half court, lots of pick and rolls, pops.
Yi could make alot of money with VC & Harris. We really didnt have a good bench last year. Thats why
Nachbar played so much. This is year I dont know about the bench with all these young guys. Almost
all of our assistants left us, so I dont know who coaches the big man. Bill Cartwright coached the bigs last year
but he left. We extended the qualifying offer to Krstic. We are going to have so many bigs next year unless
we make a trade.</div>
We haven't played a Princeton offense in like 3 years.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 27 2008, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jun 27 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank likes bball player with high bball IQs. We played a princeton like offense last year. This
year will probably be more of a uptempo offense with Harris. In half court, lots of pick and rolls, pops.
Yi could make alot of money with VC & Harris. We really didnt have a good bench last year. Thats why
Nachbar played so much. This is year I dont know about the bench with all these young guys. Almost
all of our assistants left us, so I dont know who coaches the big man. Bill Cartwright coached the bigs last year
but he left. We extended the qualifying offer to Krstic. We are going to have so many bigs next year unless
we make a trade.</div>
We haven't played a Princeton offense in like 3 years.
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VC told me that.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jun 27 2008, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 27 2008, 03:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ace @ Jun 27 2008, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Frank likes bball player with high bball IQs. We played a princeton like offense last year. This
year will probably be more of a uptempo offense with Harris. In half court, lots of pick and rolls, pops.
Yi could make alot of money with VC & Harris. We really didnt have a good bench last year. Thats why
Nachbar played so much. This is year I dont know about the bench with all these young guys. Almost
all of our assistants left us, so I dont know who coaches the big man. Bill Cartwright coached the bigs last year
but he left. We extended the qualifying offer to Krstic. We are going to have so many bigs next year unless
we make a trade.</div>
We haven't played a Princeton offense in like 3 years.
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VC told me that.
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No wonder it hasn't worked. Vince thinks that a Princeton offense?
What's so Princeton offense about isolation plays and pick n' rolls?

 

We played in a motion offense, with RJ as the #1 option and Vince #2. When Devin came here, he became #3 option.

We run on the fastbreak, especially Devin. So if Yi likes to run, he'll fit right in.

We do isolation when things go wrong. It seems most of the time, that simply makes things worse.

Pick and roll/pop are what Vince and Marcus Williams specialize in. Marcus has connected with Boone multiple times. Vince has a knack for getting big men many easy buckets. Devin's pretty good at it too, but since he's new here, I haven't really seen everything.

When Krstic is healthy, and has his confidence up, he usually becomes the main option on offense for stretches of time. Either a pick and pop with Vince (or Kidd, when he was here) or we post him up. We haven't done that since last year, though.

Defense...well, it's not that great. That could've been because of RJ, Kidd, and Devin's injuries, though. Plus a high number of minutes going to Boki Nachbar, Nenad Krstic, and Marcus Williams, who all suck at defense. Sean Williams was a rookie, and was struggling with defense. He did an admirable job trying, though. More that I can say for RJ.

Frank...well, I'd say he's a defensive minded coach. He needs defensive minded players, though. Devin helps greatly in that aspect. Vince had stepped up defensively, after the trade deadline. Boone's a solid defender, and Sean's a great shotblocker with potential to become a good defender. CDR should help out on defense, he's a smart player. Yi, eh. Simmons...I don't really know how his D is. Marcus still sucks, and Boki and Krstic likely won't be here.

Almost all of our assistants have left. In fact, I think all of them have. We just signed former guard Doug Overton, though!

And Krstic got injured. His confidence got shattered. He hasn't been the same since.

And yes, Devin likes to flop. I remember when Krstic was healthy, and when we had Collins, they took some of the most charges in the NBA. Collins flopped a lot, Krstic flopped a little, but mostly just got knocked down. Boki takes a lot of charges, too. I hope the guys we've picked up know how to take charges - we'll need those type of plays on defense.

 

75% of Nets's set offense last year, especially post Kidd trade, was pick and roll/pop, often two or more in succession from opposite sides of the floor if the first was not successful in producing a shot. Carter and Harris split fairly evenly in initiating but Carter would definitely handle at the most crucial times in the game. Big men who can shoot from 20' will absolutely thrive playing alongside Carter.

That would be doubly true if the Nets would do more of something they did in Carter's first season and a half with the team, which is post him up close to the lane. He is a lethal, LETHAL low post player for his size, better, I think, than any guard/SF in the league not named LeBron. Unfortunately they never had the shooters at the big positions to play that kind of inverted offense really effectively. But with Yi, Anderson, hopefully a healthy Krstic, and Lopez on board, I'm hoping that Frank realizes his best post asset is 6'6" guard who can score over any individual defender down there as well as make excellent decisions and passes on double teams.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ffz @ Jun 27 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What kind of offense does the Nets run and what is expected out of the PF? I'm interested in how Yi will be used (if he's used...). Also what kind of coach is Franks. I know he values defense, but how much. I mean he played Boki freaking Nochbar playoff minutes so there musn't have been that much of a value on defense.

I'm guessing with the addition of Harris there will be lots more pick and roll, but does Franks prefer more half court or up and down? Also can someone expand on their coaches? Who coaches the big guys?

In Houston the rockets first hired Patrick Ewing and now they have Jack Sikma for yao... Milwaukee had yeah (not much)... who is coaching Sean Williams and Krstic?

Also whats the situation with Kristic? I remember he used to be pretty damn good 2-3 years ago.</div>

 

it was a useless motion offense that frank made RJ the focal point... and RJ bought into the fact and startin thinkin he was MJ

 

Basically.

The Nets tried a lot of offensive schemes the last few years. They tried to run, isolation, ball movement but I think they will try to get out and run with Devin at the point.

Defense, ha, what defense.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ly_yng @ Jun 27 2008, 06:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ffz @ Jun 27 2008, 02:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What kind of offense does the Nets run and what is expected out of the PF? I'm interested in how Yi will be used (if he's used...). Also what kind of coach is Franks. I know he values defense, but how much. I mean he played Boki freaking Nochbar playoff minutes so there musn't have been that much of a value on defense.

I'm guessing with the addition of Harris there will be lots more pick and roll, but does Franks prefer more half court or up and down? Also can someone expand on their coaches? Who coaches the big guys?

In Houston the rockets first hired Patrick Ewing and now they have Jack Sikma for yao... Milwaukee had yeah (not much)... who is coaching Sean Williams and Krstic?

Also whats the situation with Kristic? I remember he used to be pretty damn good 2-3 years ago.</div>






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I'll answer...B?

 

Yi will thrive off Devin and Carter playing the pick and pop. Vince Carter almost single-handedly made Krstic a 60-million dollar man until Krstic injured himself.

 

since don't watch much nets games, don't know much about nets.

thanks guys, it's helpful. you are so professional bball fans!

even though Yi is PF, he could run faster than some common guards, so i think his speed could be enough to Harris and VC.
when yi is in the court, more fast breaks is a good choice, besides pick and roll. especially comparing his speed with strength.

i'd like to hope that nets' offense will be faster than golden state

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Another YiFan @ Jun 28 2008, 10:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>since don't watch much nets games, don't know much about nets.

thanks guys, it's helpful. you are so professional bball fans!

even though Yi is PF, he could run faster than some common guards, so i think his speed could be enough to Harris and VC.
when yi is in the court, more fast breaks is a good choice, besides pick and roll. especially comparing his speed with strength.

i'd like to hope that nets' offense will be faster than golden state</div>
You'll be severely disappointed then. GS has a free offense where the term "bad shot" doesn't exist. Outside of Nelson and D'Antoni, there are no coaches who would allow that sort of thing.
Plus, GS lineup is extremely small. NJ is one of the tallest teams in the league right now.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kdub @ Jun 28 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yi will thrive off Devin and Carter playing the pick and pop. Vince Carter almost single-handedly made Krstic a 60-million dollar man until Krstic injured himself.</div>
Also made journeyman Mikki Moore into an $18 million dollar man.

 

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 28 2008, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kdub @ Jun 28 2008, 05:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Yi will thrive off Devin and Carter playing the pick and pop. Vince Carter almost single-handedly made Krstic a 60-million dollar man until Krstic injured himself.</div>
Also made journeyman Mikki Moore into an $18 million dollar man.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Mikki!