Poll: new coach?

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  1. J.S

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    Just curious if anyone else feels that the rebuilding process will include a coaching change.

    answer yes/no and any suggestions you might have.
     
  2. J-HoAgZ

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    I want Frank as far away from the Nets as possible, but I think he'll stick around one more year.
     
  3. Universe

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    Well when you look at it, we have one of the youngest coaches.
     
  4. Basileus777

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    I've wanted Frank to be fired for some time now. Its a shame it won't be happening anytime soon.
     
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    I cant really tell if he sucks or not, I dont know. But he did seem to be overwhelmed at times and seemed to be afraid of some of his own players


    How about Jackson as assistant coach? It would probably be a little of a Jason Garrett/Wade Phillips thing w/ Lawrence knowing Jackson is waiting in the wings, but to be honest, pressure will be a good thing, see if it brings out the best in him

    Then when Brooklyn happens, introduce NY LEGEND Marc Jackson as your head coach, Lebron as your hired gun, Jay-Z as atheltic trainer, and Beyonce can perform at halftime in the playoffs
     
  6. ffz

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    I didn't really watch the Nets that much last season, but I thougth Lawrence Frank has done a great job with the talent that he's had. I remember 2 years ago in the regular season when the Nets had a stretch of terrific defense that even wowed JVG. I don't think the GM has done a good job of giving him players to work around. Sure he's had good wing men and a HOF pg, but after K-mart left they were too weak and soft at the 4/5.

    Give him a chance. He had to give major minutes to BOKI freaking Nochbar. He seems like a great basketball mind and knows how to motivate players.

    BTW, I was slightly disgusted at the cock sucking Mark Jackson gave to the nets last night on ESPN. Only slightly.
     
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    frank is goin to get fired cuz thorn loves his work ethic... hes like a video guru... too bad his personel decisions and offensive schemes and timeout management all suck
     
  8. Basileus777

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    I'm just worried about Frank coaching all of these young players. I'm afraid he is going to ruin their confidence by jerking around their minutes and benching them every time they make a mistake.
     
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    We have the youngest team in the nba... the youngest coach in the nba... I wonder if we have the youngest GM in the league too? LOl [​IMG]
     
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    To me the most sensible thing is to let frank take the reigns for a few months at least. We want to give the impression we are shaking things up not blowing the team up. Also I think keeping VC is important to both the team and ticket sales, so lets not upset him any more than we already have. If frank is unable to motivate the kids or refuses to play them adequate minutes and the team is still losing than replace him. However, who do you replace him with right now anyway?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Basileus777 @ Jun 28 2008, 02:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm just worried about Frank coaching all of these young players. I's afraid he is going to ruin their confidence by jerking around their minutes and benching them every time they make a mistake.</div>
    Name a handful of NBA coaches that don't do that with rookies. That's part of the development process.

    Coaches like Don Nelson don't even play rookies. Sean Williams was starting games this season as a rookie and Frank still gets a label as not playing them. Boone started 53 games in his 2nd season.

    Let's all face the fact that Antoine and Marcus suck and that's not Frank's fault.
     
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    Mark Jackson for new coach!
     
  13. Nets572

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    It really would not hurt to find a new HC...
     
  14. J.S

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    I guess I'll try and be optimistic here, and say that Frank hasn't had the best crew around for a complete team concept, just a couple future HOF's and crusty journeymen, few NBA caliber rookies.

    His rep for not playing rookies goes along with his micromanaging, but I think you have to realize that he had the burden of maintaining a playoff caliber team with a perpetually thin bench, and never really had the slack and freedom necessary to create team success.

    I pray that Kiki is on the side of developing the new players and will not tollerate the "jerking" of minutes that destroys player confidence. I think that both Lopez and CDR are possible starters over the course of this season because both are coachable.

    Brook is a very Frank friendly player, a guy who can take direction and play a role.
    CDR on the other hand is great at what he does and I hope that his "rep" is respected by Frank. I hope he takes some exception to him, and allows him to get comfortable on the floor.

    The whole thing here is that the front office is going to have more to say than last season because of rookie development, The addition of Yi, and other interest in building a new roster, so in a way playing Rookies extended minutes is NECESSARY in order to know what you have and what you need in future seasons, and although we want to improve our record from last year the lottery is our friend.

    I really look foward to Frank coaching an entertaining season, because really who gives a **** what our record is, this is not a finals caliber team this season.
    Here's hoping for some fun b-ball this season.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jun 29 2008, 03:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I guess I'll try and be optimistic here, and say that Frank hasn't had the best crew around for a complete team concept, just a couple future HOF's and crusty journeymen, few NBA caliber rookies.

    His rep for not playing rookies goes along with his micromanaging, but I think you have to realize that he had the burden of maintaining a playoff caliber team with a perpetually thin bench, and never really had the slack and freedom necessary to create team success.

    I pray that Kiki is on the side of developing the new players and will not tollerate the "jerking" of minutes that destroys player confidence. I think that both Lopez and CDR are possible starters over the course of this season because both are coachable.

    Brook is a very Frank friendly player, a guy who can take direction and play a role.
    CDR on the other hand is great at what he does and I hope that his "rep" is respected by Frank. I hope he takes some exception to him, and allows him to get comfortable on the floor.

    The whole thing here is that the front office is going to have more to say than last season because of rookie development, The addition of Yi, and other interest in building a new roster, so in a way playing Rookies extended minutes is NECESSARY in order to know what you have and what you need in future seasons, and although we want to improve our record from last year the lottery is our friend.

    I really look foward to Frank coaching an entertaining season, because really who gives a **** what our record is, this is not a finals caliber team this season.
    Here's hoping for some fun b-ball this season.</div>


    I keep wondering how this terrible coach twice coached the Nets to 14 game winning streaks and coached the Nets to 49 wins in 2005-06 when his effective bench was limited to Cliff Robinson and Jacque Vaughn. Frank's job is on the line, but right now, I think the entire front office is on the line.

    For several years, hamstrung by the salary structure of Kidd, Carter and Jefferson, wound up having to sign retreads to fill out the bench. Lamond Murray, Scott Padgett, Cliff Robinson (after the suspension), Billy Thomas, Awvee Storey, Alonzo Mourning, Ron Mercer, Marc Jackson, Jeff McInnis, Linton Johnson III, etc. They also blew the 2003 draft by not being prepared to handle a talented but culturally lost kid in Zoran Planinic, blew the 2004 draft by selling the pick, and blew the 2005 draft by taking two highly overrated players in Antoine Wright and Mile Ilic.

    Now, they have done a 180 degree reversal and decided to rebuild using picks, young players--fallen angels--whatever.

    And I simply do not buy this rookies-need-confidence crap. Antoine Wright partied hard with McInnis his rookie season, according to reports. He sucked. Where's he playing next year? for how much? Marcus Williams dropped in the draft for a reason--poor conditioning and inconsistency that scouts thought was a function of up-and-down desire. Josh Boone dropped because scouts thought he was too soft. Sean Williams dropped because scouts thought he was immature. Boone and Williams surprised. Boone led his rookie class in double doubles--and has yet to have a preseason camp. Williams played more minutes than anyone drafted after him and more than half the players drafted in front of him. Does Frank get any credit for that player development. Williams went to the bench at season's end because he couldnt master game plans, wasn't a professional. That's Carter and Jefferson's assessment.

    How can people complain about player development when there is yet to be an example of a young player leaving Frank's system and suddenly blooming into even a rotation player elsewhere, let alone a star. Linton Johnson III? Antoine Wright? Zoran Planinic plays in Spain. How about Krstic's development? Does Frank get any credit for that? And what about the post-Avery Johnson Devin Harris? Frank sits him down on arrival and tells him the key to the car is his. No credit for that either?

    Thorn notes part of player development is on the players to work hard. He should know...he picked guys with attitude problems, whether soft or immature.

    The Nets DESPERATELY need to develop the four young players--aged 20, 20, 20 and 21--they picked up Thursday. A ton of potential, but again there are questions. Is Yi too soft for the NBA? Why did Brook Lopez drop five lottery places? Why did CDR drop TWENTY? Is Anderson quick enough to get his shot off in the pros?
     
  16. ffz

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    I don't know why you guys are so down on him. I know that every time the Rockets played the Nets we were playing a very well coached and well prepared team. The guy hasn't had great talent to work around. I mean for god-sakes he took a team that started Mikki Moore to the 2nd round! Mikki Moore! I don't think you'll find anyone better if you do fire him anyway. The best u'll get is some unproven coach learning on the job.
     
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    Why replace the coach when this is the time when he can finally use his strongest attributes?

    If they didn't axe him when they were "win now", he's definitely not going anywhere now.
     
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    Its no big secret that Lawrence Frank was selected in large part due to Jason Kidd. His tenure has been somewhat inconsistent, there have been some good things and bad, but that is to be expected with a young coach. At this point considering expectations are not at a championship level there is no reason to get hasty with the coach. I think there was a much bigger case to be made to have canned him last year, especially with all the veteran coaches that were available.

    At this point I am fine giving him one season to prove that he can mold a young team and young players and teach them to play the game the right way. If not next year I would start looking for a replacement.
     
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    its amazing this loser gets passes.

    byron led us to back to back finals and you guys thought he was the worst coach in net history and couldnt wait for him to get fired.

    i sit back and laugh at you clowns.

    lawrence frank is a horrible coach. he better get the respect of these young players quick or he is going to be out the door for real this time.
     

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