What are some of your impressions of Seattle's Earl Watson and Damian Wilkins? Both expire in 2010. We need veteran back-ups at pg and wing. They combine for $9.3mm and we have the assets to get them. I don't see Seattle wanting to keep them at this stage of the rebuilding. I also see Seatle trying to save some money since I doubt they get much fan support with an ugly move pending. I thought they both played pretty solid defense and had decent shots, but am not overly familiar with them. Thoughts?
i really dont want earl... id rather go after a pargo who can hit open shots and create his own shot! and back up 2/3 would be a maurice evans.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are some of your impressions of Seattle's Earl Watson and Damian Wilkins? Both expire in 2010. We need veteran back-ups at pg and wing. They combine for $9.3mm and we have the assets to get them. I don't see Seattle wanting to keep them at this stage of the rebuilding. I also see Seatle trying to save some money since I doubt they get much fan support with an ugly move pending. I thought they both played pretty solid defense and had decent shots, but am not overly familiar with them. Thoughts?</div> not a fan of watson... but even if you like him whats the pricetag? i dont think they'd want swift.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i really dont want earl... id rather go after a pargo who can hit open shots and create his own shot! and back up 2/3 would be a maurice evans.</div> Why?? what do you know about him. The purpose of the thread was to seek opinions from people that have seen those guys play.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JerseyJay14 @ Jun 29 2008, 07:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>What are some of your impressions of Seattle's Earl Watson and Damian Wilkins? Both expire in 2010. We need veteran back-ups at pg and wing. They combine for $9.3mm and we have the assets to get them. I don't see Seattle wanting to keep them at this stage of the rebuilding. I also see Seatle trying to save some money since I doubt they get much fan support with an ugly move pending. I thought they both played pretty solid defense and had decent shots, but am not overly familiar with them. Thoughts?</div> not a fan of watson... but even if you like him whats the pricetag? i dont think they'd want swift. </div> I would think they would want to cut some of that $9.3mm a year for the next 2 years. Maybe KVH and Hassell. Gives them an instant savings of about $4mm this season and $5mm next season. Maybe even Swift. His expiring could look pretty good to them. Why aren't you a fan of Watson? Work with me people... looking for some scouting reports here.
Seattle is supposedly looking to get rid of Ridnour first, then probably Watson although he did seem to have a real nice season under PJ last year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813 @ Jun 29 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Seattle is supposedly looking to get rid of Ridnour first, then probably Watson although he did seem to have a real nice season under PJ last year.</div> What about Ridnour?? He makes the same as Watson and also expires in 2010. Haven't seen a lot of him. I know he's fallen off from the high expectations. Would he make a decent back-up?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i really dont want earl... id rather go after a pargo who can hit open shots and create his own shot! and back up 2/3 would be a maurice evans.</div> Why?? what do you know about him. The purpose of the thread was to seek opinions from people that have seen those guys play. </div> from the games i have seen earl play and him at ucla... he cant really hit an open 3... and he doesnt distribute the ball fast enough... like he holds the ball 1 second too late... i was just sayin id rather go after pargo who is quick and can create his own shot and shots for others... and now that we have Yi and ryan anderson we have 3's and 4's that can hit the 18-20ft "open" jumpers... just hoping lopez becomes that banger we desperately need
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i really dont want earl... id rather go after a pargo who can hit open shots and create his own shot! and back up 2/3 would be a maurice evans.</div> Why?? what do you know about him. The purpose of the thread was to seek opinions from people that have seen those guys play. </div> from the games i have seen earl play and him at ucla... he cant really hit an open 3... and he doesnt distribute the ball fast enough... like he holds the ball 1 second too late... i was just sayin id rather go after pargo who is quick and can create his own shot and shots for others... and now that we have Yi and ryan anderson we have 3's and 4's that can hit the 18-20ft "open" jumpers... just hoping lopez becomes that banger we desperately need </div> I don't see New Orleans letting Pargo go. He's the perfect back-up for CP3.
I like Watson. He can defend and he can shoot the three. He won't blow anyone away, but he would be a damn good backup to Harris
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>from the games i have seen earl play and him at ucla... he cant really hit an open 3...</div> The numbers don't agree with you He shot .371 from 3 last season and is a career .346 shooter from 3
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 29 2008, 08:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I like Watson. He can defend and he can shoot the three. He won't blow anyone away, but he would be a damn good backup to Harris</div> What about Wilkins?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jun 29 2008, 07:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 07:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i really dont want earl... id rather go after a pargo who can hit open shots and create his own shot! and back up 2/3 would be a maurice evans.</div> Why?? what do you know about him. The purpose of the thread was to seek opinions from people that have seen those guys play. </div> from the games i have seen earl play and him at ucla... he cant really hit an open 3... and he doesnt distribute the ball fast enough... like he holds the ball 1 second too late... i was just sayin id rather go after pargo who is quick and can create his own shot and shots for others... and now that we have Yi and ryan anderson we have 3's and 4's that can hit the 18-20ft "open" jumpers... just hoping lopez becomes that banger we desperately need </div> I don't see New Orleans letting Pargo go. He's the perfect back-up for CP3. </div> do they have the money?!?! pargo made 1.8 million last season and i kno he wants a pay raise. cp3 is in rookie contract so i dont see em offerin a lot for pargo, only reason pargo stays in NO is if he feels thats the best situation for him (and as far as his career he found his niche` in NO... ) does NO wana hit the luxury tax line?!?!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jun 29 2008, 08:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 08:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>from the games i have seen earl play and him at ucla... he cant really hit an open 3...</div> The numbers don't agree with you He shot .371 from 3 last season and is a career .346 shooter from 3 </div> maybe its just me then... cuz when i saw him esp with seattle gettin nationally televised games cuz of durant, he didnt nothin special... like when i look at back up pg's i want like a bobby jackson when he was in SAC playin behind a young mike bibby ... what about acie law? or chris duhon!!! DUKE
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jun 29 2008, 08:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>do they have the money?!?! pargo made 1.8 million last season and i kno he wants a pay raise. cp3 is in rookie contract so i dont see em offerin a lot for pargo, only reason pargo stays in NO is if he feels thats the best situation for him (and as far as his career he found his niche` in NO... ) does NO wana hit the luxury tax line?!?!</div> They are way below the luxury tax line (at about $60mm in payroll, luxury tax around $68mm). Pargo will not get a starters job elsewhere so why not stay where he's at? I don't see Thorn throwing more money at Pargo than NO is willing to pay. I think they realize that without an adequate back-up they will burn Paul out. He's a solid investment to help protect Paul. They'll probably lock him up for around $3-4mm.
If the Sonics need to clear salary (and that's a possibility since they are looking to move), something like Marcus Williams + KVH for Watson might be the basis for a deal. I would hope the Nets get additional consideration for picking up the tab (that's how the Sonics landed those picks, so they'd understand). Sonics have the right to the Suns 2010 unprotected first round pick, and the Spurs 2009 first round pick.
Wilkins seems about on the level of Simmons to me, so I can take him or leave him. Watson is a nice fit. Hes not the sexiest player, so I doubt they are getting a ton of offers, but I dont see why they dont accept Stromile Swift for him. I kind of like Raymond Felton, but hes a much sexier player than Earl Watson and is much younger, so his price tag could be too steep Pargo may get a pretty big offer from a team like Miami.
Weve been shopping Marcus since the season ended, clearly no ones into him, hes filler at this point. Im sure he will be traded, but no ones taking him and saying "Wow, what a nice young prospect we got". At this point, hes filler and a cheap roster spot. I think we should at least try and get our 2nd round pick back from them(Mikki Moore) Since in any deal they would get instant relief and expiring deals and wed most likely take back 2 year deal(s)
