<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The NBA has expanded so much and is marketed so well, you don't have to be in a major city to be rich with endorsements. LeBron is already making hundreds of millions in endorsements. If the C's win another title, they'll become much more attractive to Lebron too. Also, if Bron isn't concerned about winning a title, why leave Cleveland? Simply put he does want to win a title, anyone who wants to be considered great does. Boston has the history and now a recent title to entice LeBron to sign on and play with them. Throw in Ainge's good moves of late and he will instill confidence that the Celtics will acquire the right players to win a title with Bron.</div> I think Lebron wants to put a franchise on the map and not walk in the shadows of legends. That's why I see Cleveland and the Nets as the best possible destinations.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 2 2008, 09:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The NBA has expanded so much and is marketed so well, you don't have to be in a major city to be rich with endorsements. LeBron is already making hundreds of millions in endorsements. If the C's win another title, they'll become much more attractive to Lebron too. Also, if Bron isn't concerned about winning a title, why leave Cleveland? Simply put he does want to win a title, anyone who wants to be considered great does. Boston has the history and now a recent title to entice LeBron to sign on and play with them. Throw in Ainge's good moves of late and he will instill confidence that the Celtics will acquire the right players to win a title with Bron.</div> I think Lebron wants to put a franchise on the map and not walk in the shadows of legends. That's why I see Cleveland and the Nets as the best possible destinations. </div> Oklahoma and Kevin Durrant could be a destination too if that's the case. If Lebron is a student of the game, he'll know he needs another alpha dog to run with in order to win a title.. kinda he would get playing with Pierce and KG Fact of the matter his it's 2 years away and who knows how he'll feel at that time. Right now he's spouting off because he's frustrated by the Cavs lack of success in acquiring the right talent.
In a way he's kind of KG, he wants to win a championship so bad, and he wants to be the best player ever. 65% chance that he stays in Cleveland, 30% chance that he goes to a contender, 5% chance that he joins the Brooklyn Nets. Now if you become a contender by that point, then add the 5 and 30 and you have 35% chance of getting him, much better than it is now.
gotta wonder how VC feels about having to play baby-sitter for the next two years.. mabye see that classic VC scowl and sulk?
Ah! Celtics fans have infiltrated the Nets board! Now they know of our diabolical plan to attract Lebron to NJ with Kwame Brown... Idk if I could see him going to the Celtics, when PP will be 33 and KG will be 34. Who knows what injuries could have struck him by then.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 2 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah! Celtics fans have infiltrated the Nets board! Now they know of our diabolical plan to attract Lebron to NJ with Kwame Brown... Idk if I could see him going to the Celtics, when PP will be 33 and KG will be 34. Who knows what injuries could have struck him by then.</div> or how many rings they'll have. or if both would take a paycut to invite LeBron + solid roll player to take a run at another title.... the possibilities are endless
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>In a way he's kind of KG, he wants to win a championship so bad, and he wants to be the best player ever. 65% chance that he stays in Cleveland, 30% chance that he goes to a contender, 5% chance that he joins the Brooklyn Nets. Now if you become a contender by that point, then add the 5 and 30 and you have 35% chance of getting him, much better than it is now.</div> One week before last years draft KG wasn't going to go to Boston. One trade later he went. The rest is history. You never know.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 2 2008, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 2 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ah! Celtics fans have infiltrated the Nets board! Now they know of our diabolical plan to attract Lebron to NJ with Kwame Brown... Idk if I could see him going to the Celtics, when PP will be 33 and KG will be 34. Who knows what injuries could have struck him by then.</div> or how many rings they'll have. or if both would take a paycut to invite LeBron + solid roll player to take a run at another title.... the possibilities are endless </div> Can't take a pay cut. Against the rules in the CBA.
They're not similar and you can't compare the two. KG is almost at the end of his career, LeBron will be at the top level in 2010. Boston had Pierce and then brought Allen.
I'd say it's 65/35 or 60/40 LeBron stays in Cleveland. A lot of things need to come together, on and off the court, but that doesn't mean that doing what we are doing, positioning ourselves for 2010, wasn't the right move. In fact, it's not even close.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're not similar and you can't compare the two. KG is almost at the end of his career, LeBron will be at the top level in 2010. Boston had Pierce and then brought Allen.</div> Near the end of his career last season and he's suppose to entice Lebron in 2 more years? The point is KG didn't want to go there until they made the move to bring in Allen. Who knows what move the Nets can make in the next 2 years.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Jul 2 2008, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They're not similar and you can't compare the two. KG is almost at the end of his career, LeBron will be at the top level in 2010. Boston had Pierce and then brought Allen.</div> I think he's saying you never know what personnel moves teams are gonna make. Cavs could bring in some real crap - see: Ricky Davis, Mark Blount, Marko Jaric, Mike James. And the Nets could bring in some real talent - possibly trading Vince's expiring for a star who wants to leave his team, a la Ray Ray.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 1 2008, 03:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 1 2008, 03:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I should add that the "they're really starting over" remark also pretty clearly means he discounts VC's continued presence on the roster.</div> True. Thought he could had said the same thing if it were only RJ left. I wonder if he would have a comment or what it would be if VC is moved. If Kidd's stance is that LBJ won't want to play with Carter, the Nets should move Carter to the Cavs right now... -Petey </div> Yeah that would be a good plan if they included a draft pick or young talent. The formula has been expiring with young talent and/or draft pick.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 2 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Since when is Steve Politi on Corey Booker's payroll?</div> FWIW, Star-Ledger endorsed Booker over Sharpe James in 2002. But then again, Sharpe James is a convicted felon asshole.
I believe Kidd also said that last year's Nets roster was the most talented team he had ever played on. So he's not exactly a great prognasticator or judge of talent is he?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Jul 2 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nil chance LeBron goes to Boston. If he's leaving, he's going to New York.</div> you spoke to him personally? or did you psychic reassure you about what would happen in 2 years time?