C'mon back, Brett. The NFL has too many teams which dilute the talent pool too much for good players to be retiring while they can still play at a high level. He shouldn't worry about people complaining about his retiring. Michael Jordan had almost as many retirement press conferences as Liz Taylor had weddings. Besides, most of the people complaining are people who are afraid that the Packers can beat them if Favre is behind center. I haven't agreed with everything that Favre has done (see Michael Strahan and Javon Walker), but I love watching Favre play football.
I wanted him to say he was coming back after the NFC championship game. That would have been the time to do it... Now, after a full off season and retirement? No... I'm not opposed to him coming back to play for another team, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack @ Jul 4 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted him to say he was coming back after the NFC championship game. That would have been the time to do it... Now, after a full off season and retirement? No... I'm not opposed to him coming back to play for another team, though.</div> This post may be the most shocking post that I have ever read. I'm glad I'm sitting down.
I don't know. In one way I want to see him come back because he's one of my favorite players of all time and the team was 13-3 last year. On the other hand I can understand that the Packers are moving on. They're high on Aaron Rodgers and McCarthy and Thompson have earned the benefit of the doubt. Either way I hope this gets resolved soon and that come August we're not talking about Favre wanting back in.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 5 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack @ Jul 4 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted him to say he was coming back after the NFC championship game. That would have been the time to do it... Now, after a full off season and retirement? No... I'm not opposed to him coming back to play for another team, though.</div> This post may be the most shocking post that I have ever read. I'm glad I'm sitting down. </div> Heh... I know what you mean. I was shocked, myself, to learn that I feel this way. You won't find a bigger Favre fan than me, but if this does turn out to be more than just rumors and speculation, I'm going to be really irritated. The Packers have been clear every year with the "take as long as you need to decide" approach to Favre's retirement. I honestly believe that if there was any doubt...ANY doubt at all...he should have postponed his announcement until a few weeks before training camp. If he had done that, we wouldn't be dealing with this crap right now. That said, I think all of this is being made up. Every article I read is 1% fact and 99% wild speculation. It's based on hypothetical text messages that may or may not have been sent by Brett Favre to Ted Thompson and "random person x" from "podunk newspaper y." It's all about ratings, circulation and website hits right now during what is generally the most boring part of the NFL's year. Favre should schedule a phone call or a press conference or something more tangible than a text message and clear the air so everyone can move on.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack @ Jul 8 2008, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 5 2008, 01:19 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack @ Jul 4 2008, 11:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted him to say he was coming back after the NFC championship game. That would have been the time to do it... Now, after a full off season and retirement? No... I'm not opposed to him coming back to play for another team, though.</div> This post may be the most shocking post that I have ever read. I'm glad I'm sitting down. </div> Heh... I know what you mean. I was shocked, myself, to learn that I feel this way. You won't find a bigger Favre fan than me, but if this does turn out to be more than just rumors and speculation, I'm going to be really irritated. The Packers have been clear every year with the "take as long as you need to decide" approach to Favre's retirement. I honestly believe that if there was any doubt...ANY doubt at all...he should have postponed his announcement until a few weeks before training camp. If he had done that, we wouldn't be dealing with this crap right now. That said, I think all of this is being made up. Every article I read is 1% fact and 99% wild speculation. It's based on hypothetical text messages that may or may not have been sent by Brett Favre to Ted Thompson and "random person x" from "podunk newspaper y." It's all about ratings, circulation and website hits right now during what is generally the most boring part of the NFL's year. Favre should schedule a phone call or a press conference or something more tangible than a text message and clear the air so everyone can move on. </div> Doesn't the fact that he hasn't done anything tangible suggest it's not just a rumor?
I should have made my opinion clear, but I'm kind of mystified by the line the Packers are pushing here. "Need to move forward" "moving on" "made our decision" What the heck does any of that stuff mean in actual, practical terms of what a team can do on the field. That sounds like the kind of stuff people are saying when they don't have anything tangible to point to. In what tangible way would having Favre this year prevent "moving forward"? Would the damage to Aaron Rogers just be that awful? Is Aaron Rogers good enough that one should care? I don't see it. Rogers has sat on the bench before, and more or less, he's either fairly ready or not. Favre's an obvious upgrade. And hey, especially for a small market team, getting in the playoffs and having one of the league's superstars wearing your jersey tends to be um... a great thing for making money, not just winning. I mean, this seems to be a stunningly awful decision and it amazes me that most everyone in Green Bay (aside from the kids who grilled a tense and angry-sounding Mike McCarthy last week) can't see that. Guys like me, a Bears fan, who've lived with a 20 year disaster at QB, and who are old enough to remember the Packers' own 20 year disaster at QB before Favre came along, are not getting this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 12 2008, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I should have made my opinion clear, but I'm kind of mystified by the line the Packers are pushing here. "Need to move forward" "moving on" "made our decision" What the heck does any of that stuff mean in actual, practical terms of what a team can do on the field. That sounds like the kind of stuff people are saying when they don't have anything tangible to point to. In what tangible way would having Favre this year prevent "moving forward"? Would the damage to Aaron Rogers just be that awful? Is Aaron Rogers good enough that one should care? I don't see it. Rogers has sat on the bench before, and more or less, he's either fairly ready or not. Favre's an obvious upgrade. And hey, especially for a small market team, getting in the playoffs and having one of the league's superstars wearing your jersey tends to be um... a great thing for making money, not just winning. I mean, this seems to be a stunningly awful decision and it amazes me that most everyone in Green Bay (aside from the kids who grilled a tense and angry-sounding Mike McCarthy last week) can't see that. Guys like me, a Bears fan, who've lived with a 20 year disaster at QB, and who are old enough to remember the Packers' own 20 year disaster at QB before Favre came along, are not getting this.</div> I guess they're just really annoyed with Favre, and that's clouded their judgement. I totally think he's been acting like a brat but I'd still make him the starter at this point. It isn't like he wanted to come back mid-season.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Pack Attack @ Jul 5 2008, 12:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanted him to say he was coming back after the NFC championship game. That would have been the time to do it... Now, after a full off season and retirement? No... I'm not opposed to him coming back to play for another team, though.</div> My question is....would you still be singing this tune if he signed with the rival Vikings? It's starting to look like that's his best option, and it may be the reason why he's asking for a release knowing that there is no way he can land in Minnesota any other way
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (huevonkiller @ Jul 12 2008, 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 12 2008, 07:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I should have made my opinion clear, but I'm kind of mystified by the line the Packers are pushing here. "Need to move forward" "moving on" "made our decision" What the heck does any of that stuff mean in actual, practical terms of what a team can do on the field. That sounds like the kind of stuff people are saying when they don't have anything tangible to point to. In what tangible way would having Favre this year prevent "moving forward"? Would the damage to Aaron Rogers just be that awful? Is Aaron Rogers good enough that one should care? I don't see it. Rogers has sat on the bench before, and more or less, he's either fairly ready or not. Favre's an obvious upgrade. And hey, especially for a small market team, getting in the playoffs and having one of the league's superstars wearing your jersey tends to be um... a great thing for making money, not just winning. I mean, this seems to be a stunningly awful decision and it amazes me that most everyone in Green Bay (aside from the kids who grilled a tense and angry-sounding Mike McCarthy last week) can't see that. Guys like me, a Bears fan, who've lived with a 20 year disaster at QB, and who are old enough to remember the Packers' own 20 year disaster at QB before Favre came along, are not getting this.</div> I guess they're just really annoyed with Favre, and that's clouded their judgement. I totally think he's been acting like a brat but I'd still make him the starter at this point. It isn't like he wanted to come back mid-season. </div> Well apparently they only want him back if he's going to be the backup to Aaron Rogers <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If he does rejoin the team, they told The Associated Press, it won't be as the starting quarterback. And Favre is unlikely to accept a backup role, GM Ted Thompson and coach Mike McCarthy acknowledged Saturday in their first public comments since the 38-year-old Favre demanded his release this week. A trade may be the best resolution, but Thompson and McCarthy declined to discuss that possibility. Thompson said he had not received any inquiries from other teams as of Saturday morning. "We've communicated that to Brett, that we have since moved forward," Thompson said. "At the same time, we've never said that there couldn't be some role that he might play here. But I would understand his point that he would want to play." When asked whether that role might be as a backup or coach, Thompson said: "not a coach." Added McCarthy: "He did ask about that, though." On Friday, ESPN's Chris Mortensen reported Favre had requested an amicable and unconditional release from the Packers via letter, attributing sources close to the player and team.</div> I'd kind of like Favre to say yes to this, just to watch the Pack squirm. I mean, it's obviously they just want him gone, but it'd be pretty hilarious to see him play the straight man and see how long they keep up the pretense of starting Aaron Rogers over him. I mean, if he did that, how long would it be before Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy were lynched for their shabby treatment of him, and how much would it poison the well for Aaron Rogers. Every time that poor kid would throw an incompletion he'd have people looking over his shoulder. Talk about creating a recipe for failure.
Favre is awesome for the league. IMO, still the most popular QB by far. He can still play, I want him back in the league. Green Bay would be absolutely stupid to start Rogers over Favre. After all Favre has given the organization, they should have released him like he asked; or they should trade him. Making Favre Aaron's backup would absolutely kill Rodger's chance at a normal career, as well. One mediocre game by him and the GB media would be all over his nuts. ESPN will be all over every mistake he makes, they love Favre there.
Green Bay has clearly moved on. They have committed to Rodgers; a 1st round draft pick. They drafted Brohm in the second. And they have a 2nd rookie QB in Matt Flynn. Obviously, Flynn is the odd QB out if Favre comes back.
