KC Blogs: <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Derrick Rose participated in the night practice of Saturday’s double sessions for Bulls’ summer-league mini-camp despite battling tendinitis in his right knee. The No. 1 pick limped noticeably following the morning practice, his knee wrapped in ice, but vowed not to miss games at the Orlando Pro Summer League beginning Monday. "I’ve been coming 90 minutes early every day to get treatment," Rose said. "I’ll be fine." Rose said the condition dates to his one season at Memphis and developed for noble reasons. "I was scared I wouldn’t have a good season, so I would stay in the gym for like four hours until I got tendinitis," he said. "Coach (John Calipari) had to tell the managers don’t let me in no more because I was tearing up my knees and I had to keep getting MRIs. I just wanted to prove people wrong and let them know that I was going to play hard. That’s just the way I think."</div> Jeez, shouldn't this happen about ten years from now? I know lots of players have recurring issues with this, but it's a bad thing, not a good thing. The stuff he's saying about his time in Memphis doesn't make any sense either. I mean, just practicing a lot shouldn't be "tearing up" knees. Most everyone in the NBA practices a lot. For now I'm going to assume he's clueless and just talking out his ass about this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 6 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, shouldn't this happen about ten years from now? I know lots of players have recurring issues with this, but it's a bad thing, not a good thing. The stuff he's saying about his time in Memphis doesn't make any sense either. I mean, just practicing a lot shouldn't be "tearing up" knees. Most everyone in the NBA practices a lot. For now I'm going to assume he's clueless and just talking out his ass about this.</div> I don't see any reason not to believe Rose, or any reason to worry about this. I fought relatively serious tendinitis right about Rose's age: from practicing (music) not ball. It comes from any type of repetition and the only real solution is just learning how your body works. Once you begin to figure out good pain from bad pain and your own personal limits it quickly becomes a non-issue. I actually find this story, in reference to Rose's work ethic, rather promising.
Wow, how bad is this...both 1st and 2nd* picks already have injury issues. I hope I'll be able to catch him in the summer league, though, getting owned by the Nets.
Not really something I'm going to worry about. It's just like SST said - once he figures himself out, he'll be better. And I agree with the comment SST made about the work ethic as well. It's promising to know that we're getting a kid who's going to work his ass off to get better.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (such sweet thunder @ Jul 6 2008, 02:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 6 2008, 01:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Jeez, shouldn't this happen about ten years from now? I know lots of players have recurring issues with this, but it's a bad thing, not a good thing. The stuff he's saying about his time in Memphis doesn't make any sense either. I mean, just practicing a lot shouldn't be "tearing up" knees. Most everyone in the NBA practices a lot. For now I'm going to assume he's clueless and just talking out his ass about this.</div> I don't see any reason not to believe Rose, or any reason to worry about this. I fought relatively serious tendinitis right about Rose's age: from practicing (music) not ball. It comes from any type of repetition and the only real solution is just learning how your body works. Once you begin to figure out good pain from bad pain and your own personal limits it quickly becomes a non-issue. I actually find this story, in reference to Rose's work ethic, rather promising. </div> I've never had tendinitis, but is it a good pain or a bad pain? Is it just a matter of Rose learning to ignore it? Does that mean his "own personal limits" are just less than other guys'? Not trying to put you on the spot, just trying to figure out what's going on with him.
A lot of players battle with tendinitis, the only concern is that Rose is experiencing this at 19. Most likely a testament to how hard he worked in college and high school.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 6 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've never had tendinitis, but is it a good pain or a bad pain? Is it just a matter of Rose learning to ignore it? Does that mean his "own personal limits" are just less than other guys'? Not trying to put you on the spot, just trying to figure out what's going on with him.</div> When I use the phrase "personal limits" I don't mean pain threshold. When tendinitis hits it's debilitating -- as in, your muscles violently contract like a quick little cramp. This sounds more dramatic than it actually is. I mean, this is the reason neither you or I can run a mile in under four minutes. It's not that it hurts too much, it's that at some point in the run our muscles will lock up and we'll have to stop. By "personal limits" I'm speaking more about recognizing the initial symptoms. Tendinitis is preceded by a soreness that feels like it comes from your bones, unique and recognizable. I had to learn exactly how much I could push that soreness. Because if I pushed it too much it would inevitably lead to the debilitating form of tendinitis, which would last for two or three days; I had to recognize the tipping point and when I had to stop. Not knowing the intricacies of Rose's situation, and hearing the public statements, I would anticipate that his tendinitis would also be very controllable. It might be as simple as never playing on any surface except for wood, or just taking a couple minutes of break from practice when you feel that you're pushing too far into the dull-bone pain that leads to tendinitis. I have to imagine that almost every NBA player suffers from it in some fashion and that it's just going to be a learning process for Rose to control. As an end note, I think there are still reasons for some concern. Namely, my tendinitis was from very unnatural movements, whereas Rose's tendinitis is from more traditional movement. This means that my tendinitis got better with age, whereas Rose's could conceivably get worse. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Rose limit his above the rim game, much like Hinrich and Gordon. But I'm very optimistic that this isn't a long term type of injury that will cost Rose any playing time.
What Is Tendinitis? Tendinitis is an inflammation or irritation of the tendon, a thick cord that attaches bone to muscle. What Causes Tendinitis? Tendinitis is most often caused by repetitive, minor impact on the affected area, or from a sudden more serious injury. There are many activities that can cause Tendinitis, including: * Gardening * Raking * Carpentry * Shoveling * Painting * Scrubbing * Tennis * Golf * Skiing * Throwing and pitching Incorrect posture at work or home or poor stretching or conditioning before exercise or playing sports also increases a person's risk. Other risk factors for Tendinitis, include: * An abnormal or poorly placed bone or joint (such as length differences in your legs or arthritis in a joint) that stresses soft-tissue structures * Stresses from other conditions, such as rheumatoid arthritis, gout, psoriatic arthritis, thyroid disorders, or unusual medication reactions Occasionally an infection can cause Tendinitis. Who Gets Tendinitis? Anyone can get Tendinitis, but it is more common in adults, especially those over 40 years of age. As tendons age they tolerate less stress, are less elastic, and are easier to tear. Where Does Tendinitis Occur? Tendinitis can occur in almost any area of the body where a tendon connects a bone to a muscle. The most common places are: * Base of the thumb * Elbow * Shoulder * Hip * Knee * Achilles tendon What Are the Symptoms of Tendinitis? The symptoms of Tendinitis include: * Pain at the site of the tendon and surrounding area. Pain may be a gradual buildup or sudden and severe, especially if calcium deposits are present. * Loss of motion in the shoulder, called "adhesive capsulitis" or frozen shoulder. How Can I Avoid Tendinitis? When performing activities: * Take it slow at first. Gradually build up your activity level. * Use limited force and limited repetitions. * Stop if unusual pain occurs. Do something else. Try again later and if pain recurs, stop that activity for the day. How Is Tendinitis Treated? Initial treatment includes: * Avoiding activities that aggravate the problem * Resting the injured area * Icing the area the day of the injury * Taking over-the-counter anti-inflammatory medicines If the condition does not improve in a week, see your doctor. You may need more advanced treatments, including: * Corticosteroid injections. Corticosteroids (often called " steroids") are often used because they work quickly to decrease the inflammation and pain. * Physical therapy. This can be very beneficial, especially for a "frozen shoeulder." Physical therapy includes range of motion exercises and splinting (thumb, forearm, bands). * Surgery. This is only rarely needed for severe problems not responding to other treatments. How Long Will Recovery Take? Tendinitis may take weeks to months to recover, depending on the severity of your injury. Warning You should see your doctor if you experience any of the following: * Fever (over 100 degrees Fahrenheit) * Swelling, redness, and warmth * General illness or multiple sites of pain * Inability to move the affected area These could be signs of another problem that needs more immediate attention. Reviewed by the doctors at The Cleveland Clinic Department of Rheumatic and Immunologic Diseases.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3183048 Bulls' Deng sits out against Kings with Achilles' tendinitis Updated: January 5, 2008, 9:06 PM ET CHICAGO -- Bulls forward Luol Deng missed the game against the Sacramento Kings on Saturday because of left Achilles' tendinitis and is day to day. Although an MRI on Friday revealed no major structural damage, the Bulls are taking a cautious approach with their second-leading scorer. "We'll sit him out tonight, give him a couple days rest and see how he is on Tuesday," interim coach Jim Boylan said. "Hopefully, the rest will do him some good. He seems to be feeling a little bit better, so we're keeping our fingers crossed on that. The schedule kind of breaks for us." They have a light schedule next week, hosting New York on Tuesday and visiting Philadelphia on Friday. Deng, averaging 17.9 points, left in the second quarter of last Thursday's double-overtime loss to Portland and managed only two points. He had said he hurt the Achilles' in an earlier game and aggravated it Thursday night when he came down after a jump shot. Trainer Fred Tedeschi said Deng will wear an orthotic device to stabilize the foot and will undergo therapy and stretching to treat the condition.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (such sweet thunder @ Jul 6 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 6 2008, 02:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I've never had tendinitis, but is it a good pain or a bad pain? Is it just a matter of Rose learning to ignore it? Does that mean his "own personal limits" are just less than other guys'? Not trying to put you on the spot, just trying to figure out what's going on with him.</div> When I use the phrase "personal limits" I don't mean pain threshold. When tendinitis hits it's debilitating -- as in, your muscles violently contract like a quick little cramp. This sounds more dramatic than it actually is. I mean, this is the reason neither you or I can run a mile in under four minutes. It's not that it hurts too much, it's that at some point in the run our muscles will lock up and we'll have to stop. By "personal limits" I'm speaking more about recognizing the initial symptoms. Tendinitis is preceded by a soreness that feels like it comes from your bones, unique and recognizable. I had to learn exactly how much I could push that soreness. Because if I pushed it too much it would inevitably lead to the debilitating form of tendinitis, which would last for two or three days; I had to recognize the tipping point and when I had to stop. Not knowing the intricacies of Rose's situation, and hearing the public statements, I would anticipate that his tendinitis would also be very controllable. It might be as simple as never playing on any surface except for wood, or just taking a couple minutes of break from practice when you feel that you're pushing too far into the dull-bone pain that leads to tendinitis. I have to imagine that almost every NBA player suffers from it in some fashion and that it's just going to be a learning process for Rose to control. As an end note, I think there are still reasons for some concern. Namely, my tendinitis was from very unnatural movements, whereas Rose's tendinitis is from more traditional movement. This means that my tendinitis got better with age, whereas Rose's could conceivably get worse. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw Rose limit his above the rim game, much like Hinrich and Gordon. But I'm very optimistic that this isn't a long term type of injury that will cost Rose any playing time. </div> But if it takes away a unique element of his game (compared to those other guys), then doesn't that reduce the quality of his playing time? I don't feel too good about that.
When training camp starts up this is not going to be a big deal so I am not sweating it. If he tears his ACL or something then we can start worrying.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MikeDC @ Jul 6 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>But if it takes away a unique element of his game (compared to those other guys), then doesn't that reduce the quality of his playing time? I don't feel too good about that.</div> I think he meant more like Nash and Tony Parker than Hinrich and Gordon.
Hell I had Jumper's Knee in 7th grade, it healed but in summer of 06 i reaggravated it. I think that is one reason why I'm not dunking (me being 5'9 doesnt matter obviously) because I can't jump off one leg without worrying and sometimes my knee just doesnt let me jump how I used to (although I still have pretty good jumping ability). So I won't worry about Rose, they're taking precautions so I think he'll be ok.