Unbiased NBA fans of mine tell me that they believe the Nets will be one of if not the worst team in the league this year. My initial reaction was no way but the more I think about it, the more I think Frank wont do well with this team and we may not win more than 25 games. Is that possible? Let me know what you think.
Hard to tell. We could be bad, as a young team with mismatched pieces, and a lot of guys needing to grow, but a lot of those teams seem to do really well. The Blazers, Hawks, and Sixers lately all did well when not much was expected. And I think Frank will do well.
I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised what a Devin Harris-lead team can do in an entire season. I think Yi is a big if-factor, and slightly behind him is Sean Williams. Being a young team it's not surprising that there are so many variables. I think I'm certain that we're not a playoff team, but I'm also confident in that watching this next season is going to be a HELL of a lot more fun than watching last season. Hell, Dumpy might make it through with a full head of hair!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 7 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised what a Devin Harris-lead team can do in an entire season. I think Yi is a big if-factor, and slightly behind him is Sean Williams. Being a young team it's not surprising that there are so many variables. I think I'm certain that we're not a playoff team, but I'm also confident in that watching this next season is going to be a HELL of a lot more fun than watching last season. Hell, Dumpy might make it through with a full head of hair!</div> No offense to any Nets players, but it doesnt matter what Devin Harris or Yi do for the team's success. Its all about Vince Carter. As VC goes.. the team goes. He is the only one who can carry this team.
i agree... this team can only go as far as VC... we need 1 leader... and thats VC... VC is batman, and harris is robin... Yi is ... a ninja? lol... ok its way too late... gotta sleep
They should want to be the worst. Draft Demar DeRozan and get LeBron even more exciting to join the Nets.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan99 @ Jul 7 2008, 12:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 7 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised what a Devin Harris-lead team can do in an entire season. I think Yi is a big if-factor, and slightly behind him is Sean Williams. Being a young team it's not surprising that there are so many variables. I think I'm certain that we're not a playoff team, but I'm also confident in that watching this next season is going to be a HELL of a lot more fun than watching last season. Hell, Dumpy might make it through with a full head of hair!</div> No offense to any Nets players, but it doesnt matter what Devin Harris or Yi do for the team's success. Its all about Vince Carter. As VC goes.. the team goes. He is the only one who can carry this team. </div> Vince won't carry this team, but he'll be key in other ways. this is about the TEAM, not VC, and I don't really think you can go into this year with a win or lose type of mentality and enjoy the season. there are alot of developments to watch and players to see, it will be an exciting year reguardless of what our record shows. I'm expecting that we'll do well in transition, we may have some decent shooting, defense is possible. We'll have good shot blocking, a young athletic squad, and hungry players trying to make their mark and re-building the winning culture of the organization. and I think there'll be alot of highlights.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netsfan99 @ Jul 7 2008, 01:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 7 2008, 01:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think we're going to be pleasantly surprised what a Devin Harris-lead team can do in an entire season. I think Yi is a big if-factor, and slightly behind him is Sean Williams. Being a young team it's not surprising that there are so many variables. I think I'm certain that we're not a playoff team, but I'm also confident in that watching this next season is going to be a HELL of a lot more fun than watching last season. Hell, Dumpy might make it through with a full head of hair!</div> No offense to any Nets players, but it doesnt matter what Devin Harris or Yi do for the team's success. Its all about Vince Carter. As VC goes.. the team goes. He is the only one who can carry this team. </div> Kobe couldn't carry the Lakers. He needed Gasol, Bynum, Odumb, etc... I think if you're going to go into the season thinking that we'll not win one game where Vince does poorly I think you too will be pleasantly surprised.
well. obviously if Devin or Vince get injured the team will be terrible. With both of them healthy . . . who knows. There are a LOT of questions and "ifs"--but there were the same questions in 2001 as well. In 2001 the Nets had four rookies, a super-athletic second-year guy who had a decent rookie season, an overpaid veteran that was a throw-in in a deal (Harris), and a guy who had spent the previous few years mostly inured (Kittles). But it all came together. The upside is what the Sixers achieved last year . . . . no one expected anything from them, they were young and on paper had very few scorers . . . started out poorly . . . but they came together during the season, played better and better as time went by, and roared into the playoffs.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 7 2008, 09:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>well. obviously if Devin or Vince get injured the team will be terrible. With both of them healthy . . . who knows. There are a LOT of questions and "ifs"--but there were the same questions in 2001 as well. In 2001 the Nets had four rookies, a super-athletic second-year guy who had a decent rookie season, an overpaid veteran that was a throw-in in a deal (Harris), and a guy who had spent the previous few years mostly inured (Kittles). But it all came together. The upside is what the Sixers achieved last year . . . . no one expected anything from them, they were young and on paper had very few scorers . . . started out poorly . . . but they came together during the season, played better and better as time went by, and roared into the playoffs.</div> I think we'll be a late lottery team again... something I dread. I'd rather see how bad this team could be. I like Swish's idea... TANK! -Petey
3 key elements will determine how good or bad this team will be. 1) Health. That goes a long way into determining who is the worst. 2) Chemistry. If these guys really get a long well and enjoy playing together then that alone will allow them to gut out a few wins. 3) Team Defense. If the young guys can grasp the team concept, and fully commit to it, they won't be the worst. I really wonder how the youthful enthusiasm is going to impact some of the other guys. Going to be like a bunch of puppies running around out there, which could be a good thing. If Frank can keep that enthusiasm up and allow it to infect the other players, while channeling the energy and not squashing it, they'll be fun to watch. Sometimes being too inexperienced is a good thing. You don't have the experience to know you shouldn't be able to compete. The other positive is that all these guys come from winning backgrounds and they all know this is a new beginning for this franchise here and will want to be a part of any new success. It's not like they are walking onto the Spurs and need to sit in the background and try to fit in. They are right upfront and will be part of the winning or losing.
I think people are expecting too much. Do I think we will the be the worse team? NO But we have to be close to the bottom. Player Development is the key. Our young guys need to be on the court. What VC does really doesnt matter. IMO What Frank does will be the factor. Frank needs to let the young guys play even if they are making mistakes. This team shouldnt make the playoffs. There is no reason why we should. I am not saying to Tank, but a high lottery pick should be in our future.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (networks @ Jul 7 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I think people are expecting too much. Do I think we will the be the worse team? NO But we have to be close to the bottom. Player Development is the key. Our young guys need to be on the court. What VC does really doesnt matter. IMO What Frank does will be the factor. Frank needs to let the young guys play even if they are making mistakes. This team shouldnt make the playoffs. There is no reason why we should. I am not saying to Tank, but a high lottery pick should be in our future.</div> What fun is there without some sort of expectations? You have to hope for some form of overachieving.
We're rebuilding, any playoff talk is nonsense at this point. We need to have zero expectations and be happy with whatever good stuff actually happens.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (reganomics813 @ Jul 7 2008, 10:07 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We're rebuilding, any playoff talk is nonsense at this point. We need to have zero expectations and be happy with whatever good stuff actually happens.</div> Exactly. The only expectation I have is that Frank plays the young guys significantly.
If the Nets didn't have any draft picks this year, would they be not rebuilding? If you brought back the same group that ended last season, and then subtracted only RJ, how much worse would the team be? I will be surprised if the Nets end up with a worse record than last season. I think a winning record is a reasonable expectation.
If we keep Krstic, trade for Nocioni and sign Dooling I am expecting the playoffs and nothing less. Harris/Dooling Carter/CDR Nocioni/Simmons/Anderson Yi/Boone/Williams Krstic/Lopez is that such a far cry from: Kidd/Johnson Kittles/Harris KVH/Jefferson Martin/Williams/Scalabrine MacCulloch/Collins Should be good for at least the #8 seed in the East. I'm curious to see what this team looks like by the end of the month.
