Warriors interested in Dooling

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>The Warriors have expressed interest in free agent combo guard Keyon Dooling.

    Dooling would be the backup point guard would be able to handle the duties when playing beside Monta Ellis.</div>
     
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    JAnny Hu says we've been looking at Dooling, Delonte West, and Anthony Carter. I'd stay away from Carter, prefer West, but Dooling would be ok. How about Anthony Johnson? Maybe hes too unathletic but I think he'd be a nice option at backup PG.
     
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    I dislike acquiring that player (Dooling). He may help us out defensively for those matchups that Ellis would be too weak to guard, but he's not really a player you'd put beside Monta Ellis to run the point. I don't want Anthony Johnson either.

    So I think this idea sounds kinda disappointing if the Warriors are serious.

    If the dubs want a point, they ought to get a classic point to run backup or get a classic shooting guard like a Ray Allen or Brent Barry type. I just wish we could've gotten Steve Blake back when he was cheap, he'd been a lock for 6 assists a game. If we want a tall combo, maybe we can look at Marko Jaric. His value ought to be super low right now, but I believe he can contribute to a running type of team. Also, he's decent on defense, a pretty good shot, comes up with many steals, but the knock on him is he's probably more Dunleavy like than anything. He's been inconsistent and not very aggressive. But just the fact he plays defense, can play in the open court, and can alternate between point guard and shooting guard at 6'7 would help us. Strong fundamentals and defensive ability mixed with shooting would really help us here. Another guy that could help us is 6'5 Roger Mason. He's probably not your best pick for run n' gun but he's got the potential to knock down a lot of shots like you'd want your shooting guard to do. He can also play some point. I really want the guys who can create their own shot and for others. Those guys make the best combo guards and if they're tall... heck might as well slide them over to the 2.

    Since there've been rumors about Dooling, Anthony Carter, and Delonte West (which Run and some others brought up), it sounds like the Dubs might be looking exclusively for a defensive oriented point guard. None of those guys are well known as scorers except for Delonte West. All 3 have in common is that they are point guard sized and have good defensive ability. There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.</div>

    Jay Williams?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 07:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dislike acquiring that player. He may help us out defensively for those matchups that Ellis would be too weak to guard, but he's not really a player you'd put beside Monta Ellis to run the point.

    So I think this idea sounds kinda disappointing if the Warriors are serious.

    If the dubs want a point, they ought to get a classic point to run backup or get a classic shooting guard like a Ray Allen or Brent Barry type. I just wish we could've gotten Steve Blake back when he was cheap, he'd been a lock for 6 assists a game. If we want a tall combo, maybe we can look at Marko Jaric. His value ought to be super low right now, but I believe he can contribute to a running type of team. Also, he's decent on defense, a pretty good shot, comes up with many steals, but the knock on him is he's probably more Dunleavy like than anything. He's been inconsistent and not very aggressive. But just the fact he plays defense, can play in the open court, and can alternate between point guard and shooting guard at 6'7 would help us. Strong fundamentals and defensive ability mixed with shooting would really help us here. Another guy that could help us is 6'5 Roger Mason. He's probably not your best pick for run n' gun but he's got the potential to knock down a lot of shots like you'd want your shooting guard to do. He can also play some point. I really want the guys who can create their own shot and for others. Those guys make the best combo guards and if they're tall... heck might as well slide them over to the 2.

    Since there've been rumors about Dooling, Anthony Carter, and Delonte West (which Run and some others brought up), it sounds like the Dubs might be looking exclusively for a defensive oriented point guard. None of those guys are well known as scorers except for Delonte West. All 3 have in common is that they are point guard sized and have good defensive ability. There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.</div>
    How about Al for Jaric and Crittenton or Lowry? Memphis has too many PGs and no starting PF. Al is the best player in the deal and his contract has two years left compared to Jaric's 3. I'm not a big fan of Jaric at all but I want one of those two other PGs. I like Lowry better but Crittenton is a great fit next to Monta.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kensaku @ Jul 9 2008, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.</div>

    Jay Williams?
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    I hope he gets another chance, he looked so good coming in to the NBA.
     
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    Nah, it's no Jay Williams. Hold on let me look at it again... DeMarcus Nelson.

    Jay Williams is done, I think. He's 27 and his body probably hadn't fully recovered to be in nba shape. He was lucky to be alive and still walking. Who'd have thought he'd be the bigger "bust" than Dunleavy.

    If we got Jaric and Javaris Crittenton for Al, I'd do that trade. You get a solid two that can play some one and he defends + shoots + passes. Crittenton would be for potential. He's got some things I like, but he's obviously not a complete package yet for a two guard or a lead guard. I doubt Memphis gives the potential up at this point because the future of the franchise depends on most of it. They were actually playing Crittenton toward the end of the season just to see what he can do. He seemed to be a more of a defensive oriented player with a quick first step. His shooting looked a bit off whenever he took 3's, but maybe he was forced into taking shots outside his comfortable range. He definitely looks like an explosive player that can drive to the rim at will. His passing didn't look that hot which surprised me because I thought many have labeled this guy an oversized point guard. Whenever I see his height at 6'5, I keep thinking shooting guard.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 08:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Nah, it's no Jay Williams. Hold on let me look at it again... DeMarcus Nelson.

    Jay Williams is done, I think. He's 27 and his body probably hadn't fully recovered to be in nba shape. He was lucky to be alive and still walking. Who'd have thought he'd be the bigger "bust" than Dunleavy.

    If we got Jaric and Javaris Crittenton for Al, I'd do that trade. You get a solid two that can play some one and he defends + shoots + passes. Crittenton would be for potential. He's got some things I like, but he's obviously not a complete package yet for a two guard or a lead guard. I doubt Memphis gives the potential up at this point because the future of the franchise depends on most of it. They were actually playing Crittenton toward the end of the season just to see what he can do. He seemed to be a more of a defensive oriented player with a quick first step. His shooting looked a bit off whenever he took 3's, but maybe he was forced into taking shots outside his comfortable range. He definitely looks like an explosive player that can drive to the rim at will. His passing didn't look that hot which surprised me because I thought many have labeled this guy an oversized point guard. Whenever I see his height at 6'5, I keep thinking shooting guard.</div>
    Unfortunately Demarcus Nelson is 100% SG. Janny Hu says we have our eye on Jamont Gordon (he and Hendrix were the two second rounders I wanted most at the 47 pick) so even if he not on our SL team if he does well we may give him a training camp invite.

    Does Ric Bucher read this site? Apparently he just said on ESPN that he expects the Warriors to make a run at one of Memphis' PGs. Al for Jaric and Lowry/Crittenton? I dunno how much of a PG Crittenton really is, his rookie season stats don't indicate that he is at all but who knows. He fits so well with Monta though...
     
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    That's because Ric Bucher is probably plagiarizing you or something. He he he. I bet if we get anything it'd probably for Lowry or Jaric. I like Jaric more. Lowry is just plain disappointing in some aspects of the game... I'd rather pick up that guy that the Grizzlies used to have rather than Lowry (Terrence Kinsey). Lowry can drive to the rack, but... I'm not a real fan because he can't shoot. If the Warriors get him it's because for defensive purposes. I'm against any point guard that can't shoot.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 10 2008, 12:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>That's because Ric Bucher is probably plagiarizing you or something. He he he. I bet if we get anything it'd probably for Lowry or Jaric. I like Jaric more. Lowry is just plain disappointing in some aspects of the game... I'd rather pick up that guy that the Grizzlies used to have rather than Lowry (Terrence Kinsey). Lowry can drive to the rack, but... I'm not a real fan because he can't shoot. If the Warriors get him it's because for defensive purposes. I'm against any point guard that can't shoot.</div>
    Lowry is a very nice player. I am generally against PGs who can't shoot too but Lowry isn't terrible with his jumpshot plus hes young so he'll probably develop the shot more at some point. Lowry is a very good ball handler, great athlete, relentless at getting to the rim, tenacious on defense, hes a tough SOB too plus hes a legit PG. Only problem is hes 6'0 so it wouldn't fill the need of defensive minded combo guards who can defend SGs like Dooling or Delonte West. Jaric isn't very good though, I like his skills but why can't he get any PT anywhere or produce at a very high level if you can shoot, handle and pass at his size?
     
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    Is Marco Belinelli a classic SG?

    Can he play some of the point?

    Demarcus Nelson is on the Warriors' summer league team. I am not really sure if there is another PG to look at on that roster. But yeah, Nelson may not be much of a true PG. He's kind of always been more of a SF type of physical, athletic, hustling player. Too bad he hasn't really grown since the 9th grade or so. I wish him the best though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clif25 @ Jul 10 2008, 01:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is Marco Belinelli a classic SG?

    Can he play some of the point?

    Demarcus Nelson is on the Warriors' summer league team. I am not really sure if there is another PG to look at on that roster. But yeah, Nelson may not be much of a true PG. He's kind of always been more of a SF type of physical, athletic, hustling player. Too bad he hasn't really grown since the 9th grade or so. I wish him the best though.</div>


    Belinelli is a classic European SG - offensively fluid with decent passing, so yes he could play some point, but on defense I'd really be concerned. Maybe he's put in more work here.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dislike acquiring that player (Dooling). He may help us out defensively for those matchups that Ellis would be too weak to guard, but he's not really a player you'd put beside Monta Ellis to run the point. I don't want Anthony Johnson either.

    So I think this idea sounds kinda disappointing if the Warriors are serious.

    If the dubs want a point, they ought to get a classic point to run backup or get a classic shooting guard like a Ray Allen or Brent Barry type. I just wish we could've gotten Steve Blake back when he was cheap, he'd been a lock for 6 assists a game. If we want a tall combo, maybe we can look at Marko Jaric. His value ought to be super low right now, but I believe he can contribute to a running type of team. Also, he's decent on defense, a pretty good shot, comes up with many steals, but the knock on him is he's probably more Dunleavy like than anything. He's been inconsistent and not very aggressive. But just the fact he plays defense, can play in the open court, and can alternate between point guard and shooting guard at 6'7 would help us. Strong fundamentals and defensive ability mixed with shooting would really help us here. Another guy that could help us is 6'5 Roger Mason. He's probably not your best pick for run n' gun but he's got the potential to knock down a lot of shots like you'd want your shooting guard to do. He can also play some point. I really want the guys who can create their own shot and for others. Those guys make the best combo guards and if they're tall... heck might as well slide them over to the 2.

    Since there've been rumors about Dooling, Anthony Carter, and Delonte West (which Run and some others brought up), it sounds like the Dubs might be looking exclusively for a defensive oriented point guard. None of those guys are well known as scorers except for Delonte West. All 3 have in common is that they are point guard sized and have good defensive ability. There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.</div>

    The Clippers renounced Shaun Livingston. Would you be willing to take a a chance on him?
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (gambitnut @ Jul 10 2008, 04:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Custodianrules2 @ Jul 9 2008, 05:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dislike acquiring that player (Dooling). He may help us out defensively for those matchups that Ellis would be too weak to guard, but he's not really a player you'd put beside Monta Ellis to run the point. I don't want Anthony Johnson either.

    So I think this idea sounds kinda disappointing if the Warriors are serious.

    If the dubs want a point, they ought to get a classic point to run backup or get a classic shooting guard like a Ray Allen or Brent Barry type. I just wish we could've gotten Steve Blake back when he was cheap, he'd been a lock for 6 assists a game. If we want a tall combo, maybe we can look at Marko Jaric. His value ought to be super low right now, but I believe he can contribute to a running type of team. Also, he's decent on defense, a pretty good shot, comes up with many steals, but the knock on him is he's probably more Dunleavy like than anything. He's been inconsistent and not very aggressive. But just the fact he plays defense, can play in the open court, and can alternate between point guard and shooting guard at 6'7 would help us. Strong fundamentals and defensive ability mixed with shooting would really help us here. Another guy that could help us is 6'5 Roger Mason. He's probably not your best pick for run n' gun but he's got the potential to knock down a lot of shots like you'd want your shooting guard to do. He can also play some point. I really want the guys who can create their own shot and for others. Those guys make the best combo guards and if they're tall... heck might as well slide them over to the 2.

    Since there've been rumors about Dooling, Anthony Carter, and Delonte West (which Run and some others brought up), it sounds like the Dubs might be looking exclusively for a defensive oriented point guard. None of those guys are well known as scorers except for Delonte West. All 3 have in common is that they are point guard sized and have good defensive ability. There were even some mentions about how this one ex Duke point guard would be looked at because of his defensive ability.</div>

    The Clippers renounced Shaun Livingston. Would you be willing to take a a chance on him?
    </div>

    If he could play, yeah.
     

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