<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 10 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would have been a great singing if we were going for a title but I don't see the point to it now. I rather give playing time to Ryan Anderson and CDR, even if they do suck.</div> I agree. Something about Frank I dislike: instead of allowing young players to grow and get better by giving them more minutes, he throws minutes at veterans he trusts, regardless of how good or bad they play.
Harris/Marcus Carter/CDR/Ager Simmons/Najera/Hassell Boone/Yi/Sean/Anderson/Swift Krstic(?)/Lopez Eh? Wonder how they are going to clear up the logjam in the frontcourt. They better not lose Krstic for nothing. They better use Swift and his expiring contract in a trade. Hope they can trade Hassell. Hope they can trade Simmons and get a better starting SF. One of Sean or Boone looks like will have to be traded. Would prefer they go after Dooling instead of Najera in free agency. What are they going to do?
The Nets are putting an emphasis on hard working, unselfish players. Quite a change from the past couple years, but something I am glad they are doing. Signing Najera would be consistent with other moves.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 10 2008, 09:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 10 2008, 09:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would have been a great singing if we were going for a title but I don't see the point to it now. I rather give playing time to Ryan Anderson and CDR, even if they do suck.</div> I agree. Something about Frank I dislike: instead of allowing young players to grow and get better by giving them more minutes, he throws minutes at veterans he trusts, regardless of how good or bad they play. </div> He did that when Jason Kidd was on the team and they were trying to get a high playoff seed. He has not done that at all when the team has been less competitive. In fact he's shifted the focus 180 degrees to developing players. I think his preference is to train the players from day one and use his own guys, but this is really the first opportunity he's been given to do that.
Well Frank isn't signing Najera. I'm worried that he'll take minutes from a young guy too, but I'm more pissed at our FO for loading us up like this.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 10 2008, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would have been a great singing if we were going for a title but I don't see the point to it now. I rather give playing time to Ryan Anderson and CDR, even if they do suck.</div> This is exactly the way I feel. Reg, I completely understand how signing Najera is a quality addition to the team in terms of adding the "right" kind of personality to a team, but personally I'd rather give Najera's playing time to CDR and Anderson. It's not like our rookies are boneheads/trouble makers. Najera is a good leader type to have in the locker room, but Anderson and CDR (and I guess Brook) aren't misfits... Vince, Harris, and Frank should be good enough to keep them on track.
i want to see the youngins play too, and i'm excited that the new 3 are playing so well in the summer league, but its against competition that they are used to . The simple fact is that all 3 are rookies and there is a great chance that they could hit the rookie wall like both williams did, Yi did, and wright did. Najera is more like a very good insurance policy against that happening. He is a proven pro who will give you 20 minutes off the bench at either forward position and will do all the little things that the rookies don't have a clue how to do yet. He is a team player and a banger, yes i said banger. How many bangers do the nets really have? Defense wins in this league and you can never have enough defense. get Najera! oh yeah, go nets!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 10 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well Frank isn't signing Najera. I'm worried that he'll take minutes from a young guy too, but I'm more pissed at our FO for loading us up like this.</div> I swear the Nets front office better have a plan in place to sort out the excess of front court players. The Jefferson trade is starting to annoy me more now. Do the Nets really need Yi when they have Anderson and Lopez? Wouldn't it have made more sense to wait until after the draft to trade Jefferson so you know what holes needed to be filled? Now they have Yi, Anderson, Lopez, Boone, Sean, Krstic(?)... Swift Anderson and Krstic can do some of the things Yi can.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 11 2008, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 10 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well Frank isn't signing Najera. I'm worried that he'll take minutes from a young guy too, but I'm more pissed at our FO for loading us up like this.</div> I swear the Nets front office better have a plan in place to sort out the excess of front court players. The Jefferson trade is starting to annoy me more now. Do the Nets really need Yi when they have Anderson and Lopez? Wouldn't it have made more sense to wait until after the draft to trade Jefferson so you know what holes needed to be filled? Now they have Yi, Anderson, Lopez, Boone, Sean, Krstic(?)... Swift Anderson and Krstic can do some of the things Yi can. </div> I'm starting to feel the same way. I loved the Jefferson trade at the time, but the way things are starting to shake out (with the draft, Najera, and Hayes), it looks like they could have had a very competitive team without trading Jefferson.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 11 2008, 04:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I swear the Nets front office better have a plan in place to sort out the excess of front court players. The Jefferson trade is starting to annoy me more now. Do the Nets really need Yi when they have Anderson and Lopez? Wouldn't it have made more sense to wait until after the draft to trade Jefferson so you know what holes needed to be filled? Now they have Yi, Anderson, Lopez, Boone, Sean, Krstic(?)... Swift Anderson and Krstic can do some of the things Yi can.</div> We're building assets. Yi is a huge asset with his box office draw and potential and Simmons can help fill some of the void left by RJ. We essentially slightly downgraded the player at Jefferson's position and added an agile big man who has loads of potential. Now we're admittedly stocked at the big man department but we're not really looking at any with real experience, especially if Nenad is signed and traded, and that's where a guy like Najera comes in. He's the guy who provides mismatches in practice and gets our bigs used to guarding active smaller players with range and that alone will boost their defense. Boone, Sean, KVH, and Stro all have benefits to teams looking to swing a deal while Nenad can get us something in a sign and trade.We went from having nothing other teams wanted to a whole lot of options and scenarios. Anderson and Lopez haven't proved they are assets yet but their additions have opened up the availability of the bigs we depended on last season in search of an upgrade at another position. This is not an overnight process, just keep in mind every player we have added has an upside, be it potential talent or a smaller/easier to move deal, in relation to the players we moved to get them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rory @ Jul 11 2008, 08:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NOMAM @ Jul 11 2008, 05:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 10 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well Frank isn't signing Najera. I'm worried that he'll take minutes from a young guy too, but I'm more pissed at our FO for loading us up like this.</div> I swear the Nets front office better have a plan in place to sort out the excess of front court players. The Jefferson trade is starting to annoy me more now. Do the Nets really need Yi when they have Anderson and Lopez? Wouldn't it have made more sense to wait until after the draft to trade Jefferson so you know what holes needed to be filled? Now they have Yi, Anderson, Lopez, Boone, Sean, Krstic(?)... Swift Anderson and Krstic can do some of the things Yi can. </div> I'm starting to feel the same way. I loved the Jefferson trade at the time, but the way things are starting to shake out (with the draft, Najera, and Hayes), it looks like they could have had a very competitive team without trading Jefferson. </div> Najera and Hayes are role players. Rookies haven't played a single NBA game yet. To look at this trade objectively, we would have to wait till the end of the season and see how many more wins RJ gives to the Bucks. Rookies doing well in summer league, Yi is also doing well playing scrubs overseas. What I'm trying to say, it's too early to tell. However, Nets with the new rookies and FA signing + Richard Jefferson are NOT championship contenders.
enough about RJ and company. He was a nice player and the nets had their run back in the day, but over the past few years RJ and Kidd, combined with VC provided nothing but average play, with an average record, with a below average defense. Remember when the nets were good? Defense, and defense, and more defense that led to fast breaks. The RJ era is over! The kidd era is over! Time to move on and rebuild, and boy do i like the way thorn is doing it. Hayes could be a nice bench player being the 9 or 10 th man off the bench. Thats it. If the nets get najera he will be like the 7th man off the bench. the nets will be deep and talented, which helps when large quantities of injuries occur during a long 82 game season, or possibily a rookie wall that could include 3 promising prospects. The nets are simply getting prepared for all situtations
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kdub @ Jul 11 2008, 01:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dark Defender @ Jul 10 2008, 08:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This would have been a great singing if we were going for a title but I don't see the point to it now. I rather give playing time to Ryan Anderson and CDR, even if they do suck.</div> This is exactly the way I feel. Reg, I completely understand how signing Najera is a quality addition to the team in terms of adding the "right" kind of personality to a team, but personally I'd rather give Najera's playing time to CDR and Anderson. It's not like our rookies are boneheads/trouble makers. Najera is a good leader type to have in the locker room, but Anderson and CDR (and I guess Brook) aren't misfits... Vince, Harris, and Frank should be good enough to keep them on track. </div> If that's what ends up happening yer not going to hear me complaining one bit, i'm simply trying to play devil's advocate and explain why he could be good for us and why Rod and Kiki are meeting with him when we do have that kind of a glut at his position. I'd be all for giving the rookies a bunch of burn but at the same time I also like the benefits of having a guy like Eduardo, whatever happens we'll be in good shape.
