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  1. logik15

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    what impresses me about the game on friday was that the three rookies hit 29 out of 29 for their free throws. We were always a pretty bad free throw shooting team... and its good to know we're bringing in people that can finally shoot a high percentage from the line.
     
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    but you also have to remember there will no fans distracting them while they were shooting those free throws. there was absolutley no pressure. The're all good free throw shooters but remembet CDR missed free throws down the stretch in the Championship game that would have clinched it for Memphis.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 12 2008, 03:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but you also have to remember there will no fans distracting them while they were shooting those free throws. there was absolutley no pressure. The're all good free throw shooters but remembet CDR missed free throws down the stretch in the Championship game that would have clinched it for Memphis.</div>


    if "fans distract them", then maybe they shouldn't be in the NBA.
     
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    We've been above the league average in FT% as a team in 4 of the last 8 years, with one of the years being .001% under the league average, hardly a bad FT shooting team.
     
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    hmm maybe its just our bigs who can't shoot free throws. aka josh boone / collins / swat is ok around 70% i believe. etc. so i suppose its a good sign that lopez and ryan anderson can knock it down consistently from the line.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Jul 12 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hmm maybe its just our bigs who can't shoot free throws. aka josh boone / collins / swat is ok around 70% i believe. etc. so i suppose its a good sign that lopez and ryan anderson can knock it down consistently from the line.</div>

    It's just boone who kills the Nets Ft%, but at times we have a lot of trouble getting to the line
     
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    We werent bad...just very inconsistant..thats probably what you meant

    some nights we would be 85+ others in the 40s
     
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    well if stress and fans get to them, its a good thing they play in NJ

    lol sorry guys i had too...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 12 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but you also have to remember there will no fans distracting them while they were shooting those free throws. there was absolutley no pressure. The're all good free throw shooters but remembet CDR missed free throws down the stretch in the Championship game that would have clinched it for Memphis.</div>

    Yeah, no fans only all their bosses sitting right in the front row.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (logik15 @ Jul 12 2008, 04:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>hmm maybe its just our bigs who can't shoot free throws. aka josh boone / collins / swat is ok around 70% i believe. etc. so i suppose its a good sign that lopez and ryan anderson can knock it down consistently from the line.</div>

    Yeah, Boones struggles and Collins air balling FTs makes it look a lot worse overall then it is.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 12 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but you also have to remember there will no fans distracting them while they were shooting those free throws. there was absolutley no pressure. The're all good free throw shooters but remembet CDR missed free throws down the stretch in the Championship game that would have clinched it for Memphis.</div>

    whether that is true or not is irrelevant. the important things are form and repetition. remember, too, that many--make that MOST--big men struggle from the line; some people think that it is because they have such big hands, and it is hard to get a good rotation on the ball as a result (try shooting a kid-sized ball and see what happens). I don't know how true that is, but the fact that Lopez is at least CAPABLE of shooting 9-for-9 from the line during a game is a great sign.

    Not to mention that it indicates that he should be able to hit that mid-range jumper with regularity if he is open.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Jul 12 2008, 02:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>We've been above the league average in FT% as a team in 4 of the last 8 years, with one of the years being .001% under the league average, hardly a bad FT shooting team.</div>

    Does removing RJ from the equation put the Nets below the league average?

    -Petey
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 14 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 12 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>but you also have to remember there will no fans distracting them while they were shooting those free throws. there was absolutley no pressure. The're all good free throw shooters but remembet CDR missed free throws down the stretch in the Championship game that would have clinched it for Memphis.</div>

    whether that is true or not is irrelevant. the important things are form and repetition. remember, too, that many--make that MOST--big men struggle from the line; some people think that it is because they have such big hands, and it is hard to get a good rotation on the ball as a result (try shooting a kid-sized ball and see what happens). I don't know how true that is, but the fact that Lopez is at least CAPABLE of shooting 9-for-9 from the line during a game is a great sign.

    Not to mention that it indicates that he should be able to hit that mid-range jumper with regularity if he is open.
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    I heard about big hands being an issue for some FT shooters before. Lopez has huge hands so I really wonder if there is much to it.
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    I'll buy into that theory only if a study comes out that links big hands to poor concentration. There is only one reason and one reason to miss a wide open uncontested free throw.................poor concentration. And, poor concentration is also usually a sign of a choke artist especially at ends of games. Big hands i don't think so, but small minds i believe that may be the missing link to missing uncontested free throws..



    oh yeah , go nets!!!!
     
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    http://www.nj.com/nets/index.ssf/2008/07/n...week_3_and.html

    The Town Crier loved this stat from that Indiana game Friday, in case it escaped you: The three rooks shot a combined 29-for-29 from the line. For a team that finished 20th in that category last year, this is a positive development.

    So we're actually in the bottom 2/3's of the league in terms of free throws. lol so yea that is definitely a good sign that we can start taking advantage of the line
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (nets1 @ Jul 14 2008, 12:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'll buy into that theory only if a study comes out that links big hands to poor concentration. There is only one reason and one reason to miss a wide open uncontested free throw.................poor concentration. And, poor concentration is also usually a sign of a choke artist especially at ends of games. Big hands i don't think so, but small minds i believe that may be the missing link to missing uncontested free throws..



    oh yeah , go nets!!!!</div>

    I think that if you calculate the composite FT% of all the guards in the league, it would be a bit higher than the composite FT% of all the bigs in the league. By your theory, that would imply that, as a group, big men have poorer concentration than guards. I don't think that is right.
     
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    well dumpy if we really want to be scientific about it we can do an mri on all players, or at least a sample of them and see if brain size decreases with human size. Or we can do the simplest version and watch film of all the bad big men free throw shooters, and i think the reason will be easy. First they don't have concentration when they shoot. i.e. shack, who jerks the ball 2 or 3 times before he releases. Also, they don't concentrate when looking at the bucket.

    A good foul shooter knows that once you look at the rim for no more than a half second before releasing a smooth follow thru, regardless, of how many people are staring at you, or screaming at you. The distance and hight of the basket doesn't change

    How many time do we see a poor free throw shooter chance his stance many time during the season?? How many times have we seen a poor free throw shooter look at the basket , then look away , then look back at the basket?? How many times have we seen a poor free throw shooter not have a smooth follow thru??

    It seems to me the only size differential here is really in the gray matter between the ears. Therefore, in boones case i wonder if there is any??!?!!?

    oh yeah, go nets!!!!
     

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