<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 17 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 16 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want the numbers for Rod's doctors. The man saw Kittles, Harris, Rahim and Traylor as guys with health concerns.</div> what bout kmart not being worth 90 million?!?! </div> That wasn't necessarily a medical issue. Yes, he got injured, but I don't think a doctor told Rod Kenyon's other knee would go. Plus Rod has said he would have done that had the new ownership group not put the clamps down. </div> This is why I personally believe that it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and spend all that money on a single player. The risk is uncontrollable. As a fan, of course I'd prefer to have a superstar, but as a GM, I think I'd prefer to sign four players at $10 million each. </div> but then you go an look at the past ohhh 20 NBA champions.. besides the Pistons, they all had dominante superstar's on the team. You don't win with just good chemistry and 4 or 5 solid and good players, you need an alpha dog to win it all. In Fact besides the Pistons win this decade, you have to go back to the 79 Seattle Supersonics title to find a Champion that didn't have a great player on the team </div> Many teams get to the Finals without an alpha dog, but youre correct. To win it all, you need someone special. The problem with the NBA is that it has the least parity of any major sport. Part of it is the small teams--5 rather than 9 or 11 (or 22) but part of it has to do with the rules and CBA. Until the league adjusts its rule and collective bargaining agreeement, that is going to be the case. </div> But it's been that way since long before Free Agency or a Salary Cap. Because there's only 5 players on the court, Talent wins in the league. Team basketball only gets you so far.. unlike in College ball. You need that guy that can shred defenses and get a score or FT's in crunch time no matter what. Bird, Magic, Jordan, Hakeem, Isiah Thomas, Duncan, Shaq were all able to do it and all have numerous rings and most of the titles in the last 30 years. Bottom line is, if you don't have one of the best players in the league, you're chances at a title are greatly diminished.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetIncome @ Jul 17 2008, 08:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 16 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want the numbers for Rod's doctors. The man saw Kittles, Harris, Rahim and Traylor as guys with health concerns.</div> what bout kmart not being worth 90 million?!?! </div> That wasn't necessarily a medical issue. Yes, he got injured, but I don't think a doctor told Rod Kenyon's other knee would go. Plus Rod has said he would have done that had the new ownership group not put the clamps down. </div> This is why I personally believe that it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and spend all that money on a single player. The risk is uncontrollable. As a fan, of course I'd prefer to have a superstar, but as a GM, I think I'd prefer to sign four players at $10 million each. </div> but then you go an look at the past ohhh 20 NBA champions.. besides the Pistons, they all had dominante superstar's on the team. You don't win with just good chemistry and 4 or 5 solid and good players, you need an alpha dog to win it all. In Fact besides the Pistons win this decade, you have to go back to the 79 Seattle Supersonics title to find a Champion that didn't have a great player on the team </div> Many teams get to the Finals without an alpha dog, but youre correct. To win it all, you need someone special. The problem with the NBA is that it has the least parity of any major sport. Part of it is the small teams--5 rather than 9 or 11 (or 22) but part of it has to do with the rules and CBA. Until the league adjusts its rule and collective bargaining agreeement, that is going to be the case. </div> But it's been that way since long before Free Agency or a Salary Cap. Because there's only 5 players on the court, Talent wins in the league. Team basketball only gets you so far.. unlike in College ball. You need that guy that can shred defenses and get a score or FT's in crunch time no matter what. Bird, Magic, Jordan, Hakeem, Isiah Thomas, Duncan, Shaq were all able to do it and all have numerous rings and most of the titles in the last 30 years. Bottom line is, if you don't have one of the best players in the league, you're chances at a title are greatly diminished. </div> 2010 can't come soon enough.....Come on King!!!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BrooklynBound @ Jul 17 2008, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (MaxaMillion711 @ Jul 16 2008, 06:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>if this is true then wow . . . No offense but that was one crappy career</div> career averages of 18 and 8, what a bum! </div> 18 and 8 don't mean much when you've never been on a winning team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 17 2008, 08:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>His contract would come off the book or at the latest 2010. It wasn't that big a risk. What would it had meant? Nets won't have signed Magloire? Or guys like that w/ their MLE the past few years?... the horror! -Petey</div> Nets would have paid him nearly $8 million in 2010-11...six years, $38 million. 5.100 million in 2005-06 5.635 million in 2006-07 6.171 million in 2007-08 6.706 million in 2008-09 7.242 million in 2009-10 7.778 million in 2010-11
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 16 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (danxcr @ Jul 16 2008, 05:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 16 2008, 12:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I want the numbers for Rod's doctors. The man saw Kittles, Harris, Rahim and Traylor as guys with health concerns.</div> what bout kmart not being worth 90 million?!?! </div> That wasn't necessarily a medical issue. Yes, he got injured, but I don't think a doctor told Rod Kenyon's other knee would go. Plus Rod has said he would have done that had the new ownership group not put the clamps down. </div> This is why I personally believe that it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and spend all that money on a single player. The risk is uncontrollable. As a fan, of course I'd prefer to have a superstar, but as a GM, I think I'd prefer to sign four players at $10 million each. </div> but then you go an look at the past ohhh 20 NBA champions.. besides the Pistons, they all had dominante superstar's on the team. You don't win with just good chemistry and 4 or 5 solid and good players, you need an alpha dog to win it all. In Fact besides the Pistons win this decade, you have to go back to the 79 Seattle Supersonics title to find a Champion that didn't have a great player on the team </div> The key, for me, is to have that "alpha dog" without paying him $18-20 million.
The trio of Kidd, Carter and Jefferson were clearly not firing on all cylinders. They were complacent and lacked the edge. How would adding the perennial loser Abdur-Rahim have done anything more than cripple the financial flexibility of this franchise further? This team needed to blow it up and while we're probably one or two years too late in the process, if Abdur-Rahim signed here, the process would probably have been delayed further and made invariably more difficult.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 19 2008, 10:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Celtic Fan @ Jul 17 2008, 08:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 16 2008, 04:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> This is why I personally believe that it is foolish to put all your eggs in one basket and spend all that money on a single player. The risk is uncontrollable. As a fan, of course I'd prefer to have a superstar, but as a GM, I think I'd prefer to sign four players at $10 million each.</div> but then you go an look at the past ohhh 20 NBA champions.. besides the Pistons, they all had dominante superstar's on the team. You don't win with just good chemistry and 4 or 5 solid and good players, you need an alpha dog to win it all. In Fact besides the Pistons win this decade, you have to go back to the 79 Seattle Supersonics title to find a Champion that didn't have a great player on the team </div> The key, for me, is to have that "alpha dog" without paying him $18-20 million. </div> I tend to think the key is having an "alpha dog" that's worth MORE than $18-20 million. Guys like Kevin Garnett, Tim Duncan and Kobe Bryant come to mind. Of course, if you load up on young talent and rookies, like Kevin Prichard has or Danny Ainge did, then it puts you in a very good position to trade for a player like that.
