<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (uptown4784 @ Jul 19 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>COme on Dooling SUCKS</div> LOL Elaborate?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 19 2008, 06:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (uptown4784 @ Jul 19 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>COme on Dooling SUCKS</div> LOL Elaborate? </div> I'd like to hear the explanation on that as well.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 19 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (uptown4784 @ Jul 19 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>COme on Dooling SUCKS</div> LOL Elaborate? </div> In Florida Today, there was a quote from Otis saying that he couldn't confirm or deny talks. When Otis Smith denies something, you know it is going down.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (purplehaze89 @ Jul 19 2008, 05:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Swish @ Jul 19 2008, 05:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (uptown4784 @ Jul 19 2008, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>COme on Dooling SUCKS</div> LOL Elaborate? </div> In Florida Today, there was a quote from Otis saying that he couldn't confirm or deny talks. When Otis Smith denies something, you know it is going down. </div> Otis doesn't usually deny things that are going down, he is just very secretive about them. For example, he confirmed that we were discussing a possible Crittenton trade. He also confirmed that we were shopping Francis and that we were trying to acquire Darko a few years back and both of those things turned out to go down several days later. But when we traded for Evans and Cook, nobody saw it coming. If info leaks though, he's pretty good at being straight forward, especially to Brian Schmitz and the other Sentinel writers. That's why his quote is so strange.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 19 2008, 01:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Steve Alexander of rotoworld is calling the Nets' offseason "brilliant" in light of the impending Dooling signing.</div> Rotoworld is slightly better than used toilet paper.
Any program from a Nets' game this past season already is horribly dated. And it's going to get worse within a few days when Keyon Dooling is added after a sign-and-trade deal with Orlando is finalized. Dooling, 28, a 6-foot-3 combo guard, will fill the Nets' most conspicuous need as a backup at both guard positions. The Nets and Magic have worked out the trade that still needs league approval. The Magic get a $3.3 million trade exception that the Nets picked up in the Jason Kidd deal plus cash. Dooling, including three draft picks certain to make the roster, represents the eighth new player imported since draft day. He will bring defense, versatility and experience to an overall very young team. "It's exciting," coach Lawrence Frank said, regarding the personnel turnover. "With so much new, you've got everyone starting from square one." Dooling, a 6.8-point per game career scorer, will get a three-year deal, potentially worth more than $10 million. Nets team president Rod Thorn declined to confirm the trade, but said the Nets were talking to the Magic about Dooling, who chose Orlando over the Nets as a free agent in 2005. Dooling became expendable in Orlando when the Magic signed free agents Mickael Pietrus and Anthony Johnson and then harshly criticized Magic officials when they offered him the lower level $1.91 million exception last week. http://www.nypost.com/seven/07202008/sport...nets_120700.htm in ROD WE TRUST
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ Jul 18 2008, 10:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (go nets @ Jul 18 2008, 09:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ Jul 18 2008, 09:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 18 2008, 08:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Carter15Nets @ Jul 18 2008, 09:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>kiss lebron james goodbye another 3 year+ deal</div> Why's that? </div> well rj was 15 mill but adding yi 4 mill then najera 3 mill then dooling 3 mill thats 10 right there + the rooks + who knows if they will add more pretty much over the 15 mill from rj now lol </div> wow! where did you get your degree in accounting?! </div> lol at you are u retarded? thats like 10 mill for yi, najera, dooling for same year as rj's last year...+ the rookies by 2010 we currently right at the 15 or even over it. </div> Same place he got his English major, and JBF got his Law degree. I love this move. Backup point becomes a strength.
The New Jersey Nets acquired guard Keyon Dooling from the Orlando Magic for cash considerations, pending league approval, according to sources. Dooling will receive a three-year deal, averaging about $3 million per year. Only the first two years are guaranteed. Stephen A. Smith is a columnist for ESPN.com and ESPN The Magazine. Its official. Dooling isnt even a legit PG.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kievitt @ Jul 20 2008, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Would have preferred just drafting Bayless over Lopez.</div> The biggest (only?) misstep of the offseason. I agree they needed a low post scorer, but I have strong doubts that Lopez will be good enough at that to justify passing up a star like Bayless. I like all the other moves, so I'm willing to live with that one. Hopefully Lopez comes through and it makes everyone else better.
Exactly ghoti, I love the offseason so far, but I think Bayless would have made it perfect. He's going to be a special player. Could have still drafted a low post scorer in Darrel Arthur at 21 while passing on Brook at 10.
I dunno what all the bye bye Marcus fuss is about. Dooling seems to be an injury stopgap, a vetern roleplayer who adds depth and stability at 2 positions. He can spell Devin in ways that Marcus can't. So it would seem that Marcus will have to earn his way into the rotation as a playmaker, not a Starbury. Plus, I don't think his value is all that high anyhow.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 20 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno what all the bye bye Marcus fuss is about. Dooling seems to be an injury stopgap, a vetern roleplayer who adds depth and stability at 2 positions. He can spell Devin in ways that Marcus can't. So it would seem that Marcus will have to earn his way into the rotation as a playmaker, not a Starbury. Plus, I don't think his value is all that high anyhow.</div> At the beginning of his rookie season, Marcus was a pure playmaker and he was very exciting. After that, though, he has been thoroughly terrible in just about every possible way. I agree he has no value. I still prefer he not be around all the new/young players. I know what it's like to be undermined by an employee, and he is just the kind of whiny asshat that will bring everybody down and throw a wrench in what appears to be great new chemistry.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 20 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 20 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno what all the bye bye Marcus fuss is about. Dooling seems to be an injury stopgap, a vetern roleplayer who adds depth and stability at 2 positions. He can spell Devin in ways that Marcus can't. So it would seem that Marcus will have to earn his way into the rotation as a playmaker, not a Starbury. Plus, I don't think his value is all that high anyhow.</div> At the beginning of his rookie season, Marcus was a pure playmaker and he was very exciting. After that, though, he has been thoroughly terrible in just about every possible way. I agree he has no value. I still prefer he not be around all the new/young players. I know what it's like to be undermined by an employee, and he is just the kind of whiny asshat that will bring everybody down and throw a wrench in what appears to be great new chemistry. </div> I don't get how you and others are so sure that he's "whiny" or that he's complained. Do you have reliable "inside" sources telling you that? Cause I can't recall ANYTHING to that effect being reported by the major beat writers at any time. They've reported he's out of shape at times. They've reported that Frank and others want him to show more emotion when he plays (why I have no friggin' clue since it's clearly just not his nature). They've reported that the brass has serious doubts about his ability to defend and recapture the early confidence he showed. But please point me to a specific, reliable reference for the notion that he is whiny or a trouble maker. I, for one, hope he stays another year. He had major injury problems to begin last season which put his conditioning way behind where it needed to be when he did start playing. To boot, his "mentor" was the real frickin asshat and major team cancer while a new, young PG was brought in and handed the team reins, giving Marcus a new position to adjust to psychologically. So, yes, Marcus had a disappointing sophmore year, due partly to factors beyond his control and partly to some major team changes. He still had a few games where he was absolutely brilliant offensively, enough to make it foolish to trade him this year when he's so cheap, when he is the ONLY distributing PG option behind Harris, and when, at 22, he's just entering his 3rd season, a time when most PGs are only beginning to really "get" that position. As long as he's doing what the coaches ask this offseason (and he certainly appears to be) and is comporting himself professionally in other ways, it's not smart to trade him right now unless you know you can acquire another PG prospect with at least as much talent, and that's highly unlikely.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 20 2008, 08:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 20 2008, 04:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jerkstore @ Jul 20 2008, 05:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I dunno what all the bye bye Marcus fuss is about. Dooling seems to be an injury stopgap, a vetern roleplayer who adds depth and stability at 2 positions. He can spell Devin in ways that Marcus can't. So it would seem that Marcus will have to earn his way into the rotation as a playmaker, not a Starbury. Plus, I don't think his value is all that high anyhow.</div> At the beginning of his rookie season, Marcus was a pure playmaker and he was very exciting. After that, though, he has been thoroughly terrible in just about every possible way. I agree he has no value. I still prefer he not be around all the new/young players. I know what it's like to be undermined by an employee, and he is just the kind of whiny asshat that will bring everybody down and throw a wrench in what appears to be great new chemistry. </div> I don't get how you and others are so sure that he's "whiny" or that he's complained. Do you have reliable "inside" sources telling you that? Cause I can't recall ANYTHING to that effect being reported by the major beat writers at any time. </div> I find it hilarious. The guy doesn't show emotion. So what? The guy doesn't scream and yell like a lunatic. So what? The guy doesn't pat his teammates on their ass. So what? The only fault he has is the fact that he doesn't play defense. Half the players in the NBA don't play defense. He is a 22 year old kid. Chauncey Billups didn't get "it" until he went to Detroit. Steve Nash didn't get "it" until he went to Phoenix. If you want to trash a 22 year old kid just to make yourself look bigger, go right ahead. I would personally rather root for him and hope he turns into the player I think he can become.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak30 @ Jul 20 2008, 08:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The only fault he has is the fact that he doesn't play defense.</div> That's a pretty big fault. Especially with our coach, and the type of team we're trying to put together for that coach.
