<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balla 15 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Portland guard Jerryd Bayless was named the top rookie of the NBA summer league on Sunday after averaging 29.8 points, the Arizona Republic is reporting. For his efforts, Bayless was also added to the U.S. Select team which will scrimmage against the U.S. National team. Bayless shot 49 percent from the field during the league. He hit 43 percent of his three-point attempts and collected 4.8 rebounds per contest. I know it's only summer league but that is still quite impressive.</div> Sounds like an interesting read, got a link?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balla 15 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Portland guard Jerryd Bayless was named the top rookie of the NBA summer league on Sunday after averaging 29.8 points, the Arizona Republic is reporting. For his efforts, Bayless was also added to the U.S. Select team which will scrimmage against the U.S. National team. Bayless shot 49 percent from the field during the league. He hit 43 percent of his three-point attempts and collected 4.8 rebounds per contest. I know it's only summer league but that is still quite impressive.</div> Sounds like an interesting read, got a link? </div> I haven't been following LV SL, but damn, that's impressive.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 01:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Balla 15 @ Jul 21 2008, 11:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Portland guard Jerryd Bayless was named the top rookie of the NBA summer league on Sunday after averaging 29.8 points, the Arizona Republic is reporting. For his efforts, Bayless was also added to the U.S. Select team which will scrimmage against the U.S. National team. Bayless shot 49 percent from the field during the league. He hit 43 percent of his three-point attempts and collected 4.8 rebounds per contest. I know it's only summer league but that is still quite impressive.</div> Sounds like an interesting read, got a link? </div> Not too much of a story but here's the link to read the rest: http://www.azcentral.com/sports/suns/artic...bayless-ON.html
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JerseyJay14 @ Jul 21 2008, 12:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i saw about 95% of his games last year... he will be an awful pro</div> Good thing you dont have a future in the NBA as a scout. I saw 100% of his games and would love to know where you got your opinion from.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JerseyJay14 @ Jul 21 2008, 12:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>the guy is terrible and does nothing well. maybe the worst draft pick in nba history.</div> When you put it as eloquently as that, I don't see how anyone could disagree.
bayless wiuld have been the more exciting "sexier" pick but when it comes down to it, its much harder to find a true center who can score. As seen with the Nets they could not go deep in the playoffs with VC, Jefferson and Kidd. But with just Kidd and Martin they went to the finals. That really makes me believe a big man who can score and defend is much more important than a wing who can score. I think a foundation of a team starts with a point and a big physical big man. We now have that
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Jul 21 2008, 03:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>bayless wiuld have been the more exciting "sexier" pick but when it comes down to it, its much harder to find a true center who can score. As seen with the Nets they could not go deep in the playoffs with VC, Jefferson and Kidd. But with just Kidd and Martin they went to the finals. That really makes me believe a big man who can score and defend is much more important than a wing who can score. I think a foundation of a team starts with a point and a big physical big man. We now have that</div> Kerry Kittles and a great supporting cast. That being said, if the shooting guard and center are equally adept at their position, you take the Center.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 21 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I saw that we drafted Brook Lopez, and I was like "Eh, not bad. At least it's not Robin". Then I see Jerryd Bayless went next. And I literally sat there for half a minute staring.</div> Wow, for a second, I thought I posted that. The Nets will rue the day they passed on Jerryd Bayless! Rue, I say! Really though, I hate that they didn't go for him, and still have serious questions about Brook's rebounding ability and his basketball (and general) intelligence. His shot selection is shit. And he's not even that great of a shooter.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke </div> Not true It just wasn't funny
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke </div> I saw it and chuckled, I just didn't want to make a comment and have the die hard homer nets fans freak out.
Give me a legitimate 7 footer who can score in a variety of ways and be a defensive presence just because of his size over a midget who does nothing other than score. He will always cause problems on the defensive end because he is smaller than my 5 year old niece. He will get abused defensively. Although it is not surprising Bayless is getting so much hype here. The grass is always greener on the other side for some here.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 21 2008, 03:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 21 2008, 11:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I saw that we drafted Brook Lopez, and I was like "Eh, not bad. At least it's not Robin". Then I see Jerryd Bayless went next. And I literally sat there for half a minute staring.</div> Wow, for a second, I thought I posted that. The Nets will rue the day they passed on Jerryd Bayless! Rue, I say! Really though, I hate that they didn't go for him, and still have serious questions about Brook's rebounding ability and his basketball (and general) intelligence. His shot selection is shit. And he's not even that great of a shooter. </div> and you are saying this just base on what you read from his college stats and bio. Listen sometimes you just have to trust the Nets scouts rather than analysts and hope they made the right decision. The Nets personal has basically done a above average job of scouting over the years. Listin I'm going to mention the New England Patriots in this situation. They often skip on the person you think has the most talent but the Patriots do a good a job in believing they've done good scouting and pick the person most suited for their team. ThePatriots never listin to Analysts or Mock drafts. I know mock drafts and mock websites really hyped up Bayless but we can't really have this discussion for a few years. Even if you go by mock drafts though Bayless and lopez were ranked about the same so I don't see the big deal. I like Bayless too but don't you guys always say in Rod We Trust. He did draft Michael Jordan didn't he
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 03:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 03:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke </div> Not true It just wasn't funny </div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Jul 21 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BasX @ Jul 21 2008, 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>everyone missed my CDR joke </div> I saw it and chuckled, I just didn't want to make a comment and have the die hard homer nets fans freak out. </div> Point taken JFizzle, point taken very well
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ak30 @ Jul 21 2008, 03:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Give me a legitimate 7 footer who can score in a variety of ways and be a defensive presence just because of his size over a midget who does nothing other than score. He will always cause problems on the defensive end because he is smaller than my 5 year old niece. He will get abused defensively. Although it is not surprising Bayless is getting so much hype here. The grass is always greener on the other side for some here.</div>
o man thos pics bring back memories. remember Evan Eschemyer and Jame Feick also. I like Jamie a lot though
Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field. Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior. Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (essrog @ Jul 21 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field. Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior. Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.</div> That really put me off on the Lopez bandwagon when I looked that up after the season ended. And I suspect its why he fell to 10, too. Doesn't mean he cannot become a solid player/won't become a good player/etc..... but it is a red flag.
Bayless is going to look great b/c he'll be playing with Oden, Roy and Aldridge. Summer League doesn't mean much to me either way. I would have been happy if they had taken Bayless but with Devin Harris around you have a greater need for a good big than a combo guard. Someone on here pointed out all the Arizona players that go pro turn out great. (Dumpy? NI? Sorry I can't give credit to whoever it was.) But Bayless has that going for him too.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 06:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (essrog @ Jul 21 2008, 05:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Here's a challenge for you Brook Lopez lovers out there. Name one NBA 7-footer, in history, no matter how bad, who ever had a season in college, at any age, where they shot less than 50% from the field. Felton Spencer, Rafael Araujo, Matt Geiger, Olowakandi, Polynice, Bryant Reeves, Jason Collins, Benoit Benjamin, Juman Oldham, Mark Acres, Evan Eschmeyer -- none of them ever had a college season where they shot lower than 50%. The worst I can find is Sharone Wright put up .498 as a freshman, and Jarron Collins did .496 and .485 as a soph and junior. Brook Lopez shot .468 last year. I realize stats aren't everything, but that really jumps out at me. That he averaged nearly 8 misses a game, combined with his poor rebounding, makes me dubious that he can even be a solid NBA player.</div> That really put me off on the Lopez bandwagon when I looked that up after the season ended. And I suspect its why he fell to 10, too. Doesn't mean he cannot become a solid player/won't become a good player/etc..... but it is a red flag. </div> I've never liked him, and that's always been why. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Jul 21 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Bayless is going to look great b/c he'll be playing with Oden, Roy and Aldridge. Summer League doesn't mean much to me either way. I would have been happy if they had taken Bayless but with Devin Harris around you have a greater need for a good big than a combo guard. Someone on here pointed out all the Arizona players that go pro turn out great. (Dumpy? NI? Sorry I can't give credit to whoever it was.) But Bayless has that going for him too.</div> Yeah, and Standford players that go pro turn out...well...um...
