<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 21 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you feel cpaw is abusive or snide, suck it up. I've been around him for years. He's probably done it to me. I can't remember a specific time. But then again, I don't get my panties in a wad over it either. Because he is a quality poster. And even if I disagree with him over something, chances are its higher quality material than most on ANY message board. And if he does get snide, chances are, I was probably asking for it. In translation: this is the internet. Posts are made. Don't take it personally. And if that doesn't work; having pictures of him.......involving a monkey, a dog, and a snake....... well, things go smoother that way too. </div> is there an icon for a Kiss-ass in here? </div> Dunno. Your head is so far removed from reality, if we had one, I'd doubt you'd find it.
Well surely attacks on a person don't belong on the site, everyone holds themselves to that regulation. However one can attack someone's idea or opinion. For instance I regard Cpaw and Ghoti as some of the smartest people on the site, but they still argued for hiring Pat Summit as the Nets coach. I think that's a stupid idea. I think that's a dumb idea. I think it's an idiotic statement coming from two brilliant people. People are shades of gray, you can make one good observation without being a genius, one bad idea doesn't make you a bad person. You can detach yourself in this manner if you believe that a single post or idea is not representable of a person's entire basketball knowledge. Now if you feel that this is constant, well, perhaps you two disagree on a lot of issues regarding the New Jersey Nets, but that's ok! Hey even as NI and Cpaw said above, sometimes you just might come to an issue or two where you agree. Of course, this doesn't mean that you should never feel that you can't send me a PM if you come across future concerns.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 21 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i thought this thread was about coors light</div> So did I. Highly disappointing, to say the least.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 21 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So now you are saying that your knowledge of their on court displays is limited to nationally televised games? Nice back tracking.</div> No. What I said was that I taped all nationally televised games (which were a large proportion in those days) and so seized the opportunity to view THOSE games multiple times. I went to my local sports bar for years in college to watch the games available only on dish. But grasping that nuance requires attentive reading and comprehension, which are not your long suits, and God forbid that I spelled all this out concretely beforehand because that's the kind of "verbose" thing that so unnerves you and a few others in these parts. </div> No, what you've proved is that you are full of crap. You are attempting to portray that you remember such a fine detail as the interaction of Bird with his teammates from games viewed in a sports bar. Not that many games were nationally televised in those days. Hell, in 1986, CBS was still tape delaying playoff games and showing 10-15 regular season games. TBS was showing 50-60 regular season games a year. Fine you watched tapes over and over, but that doesn't encompass a majority of Bird's career. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You are transparently insecure about your own intellect and communicative abilities,</div> Now that is the dumbest, most moronic bit of pop psychology I've ever seen. </div> The size of the reflexive reaction is proportionate to the degree of truth provoking it. </div> Wow, I stand corrected. That is the dumbest, most moronic bit I've ever seen. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Only to the incredibly simple minded like yourself is that the equivalent. It is a universal truth that smart people have dumb ideas.</div> Ignoring for now the (presumably unintended) lunacy of what you just wrote, only someone as false and hypocritical as you would try to portray the REPEATED, HABITUAL invocation of adjectives like "dumb", "stupid", "hysterical", and "laughable" when referring to another's ideas as a response aimed solely at the inanimate ideas rather than at the person/caliber of mind producing them. </div> There is your lack of confidence projecting on me again. You've got the problem, not me. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>That's your "who, me?" fallback, bullshit, transparent subterfuge for engaging in the kinds of insults that you then chastise others for issuing with less sophistry. If you truly separated ideas from the people propounding them -- and had no wish to offend or insult them, you would simply point out in a reasonably cordial manner the flaws in their ideas, why you disagree with them, and be done with it. Use of inherently inflammatory words like "dumb" or "silly" hinders any kind of respectful discourse and is completely unnecessary because it represents only your conclusion instead of the reasons behind your disagreement with the idea.</div> Dumb ideas are dumb ideas. I have no interest in sugar coating things. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Further, if you truly separated an idea or opinion from its author, you wouldn't feel it important to keep track of them for years (ala this ghoti thing, for instance).</div> It really isn't that difficult to keep track of a friend's opinions. I still know the musical taste of my freshman year roommate and that was before some of these posters were alive. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>You wouldn't thrill to "keeping score" on ideas (i.e., crediting or debiting an opinion/idea to the person who propounded it), as you have done numerous times here in the past, most often, of course, when you can congratulate yourself for having correctly guessed that some player or other would or would not pan out or that some signing would or would not be beneficial to a particular team.</div> I know, you don't like it when people demonstrate that you are wrong. But talking about sports for most involves the concept of who was right and wrong before and who has credibility. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>If an idea has no intrinsic connection to the person propounding it, it could not remotely enhance or detract from their reputation, perceived knowledge, or standing in this community. If an idea does not convey something about the mind of the person espousing it, you couldn't possibly have come to the "hysterical" (to use your word) conclusion above that I am "simple minded". If you truly "separated an individual's posts from the individual", as you stated, then you wouldn't dislike me as intensely as I dislike you since my posts are all of me that you have known or will ever know. (And, just in case, please spare me any outright lie that you don't intensely dislike me.) So you haven't even the faintest notion, apparently, of the myriad ways you give your motives, feelings, and true intent away.</div> I wouldn't waste intense dislike on you. Besides, I don't make this stuff personal beyond sports knowledge. Outside of knowing that you are a big Sopranos fan, have a user names based upon an acronym of Fly on Melfis wall, and that you like to play pop psychologist, yes, all I know are your posts and I don't think highly of them.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well surely attacks on a person don't belong on the site, everyone holds themselves to that regulation. However one can attack someone's idea or opinion. For instance I regard Cpaw and Ghoti as some of the smartest people on the site, but they still argued for hiring Pat Summit as the Nets coach. I think that's a stupid idea. I think that's a dumb idea. I think it's an idiotic statement coming from two brilliant people. People are shades of gray, you can make one good observation without being a genius, one bad idea doesn't make you a bad person. You can detach yourself in this manner if you believe that a single post or idea is not representable of a person's entire basketball knowledge. Now if you feel that this is constant, well, perhaps you two disagree on a lot of issues regarding the New Jersey Nets, but that's ok! Hey even as NI and Cpaw said above, sometimes you just might come to an issue or two where you agree. Of course, this doesn't mean that you should never feel that you can't send me a PM if you come across future concerns. </div> Oh, please provide me a link for that..... This sounds like the "Mecca" of all threads....
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 21 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> is there an icon for a Kiss-ass in here?</div> jk
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 21 2008, 05:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 04:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you feel cpaw is abusive or snide, suck it up. I've been around him for years. He's probably done it to me. I can't remember a specific time. But then again, I don't get my panties in a wad over it either. Because he is a quality poster. And even if I disagree with him over something, chances are its higher quality material than most on ANY message board. And if he does get snide, chances are, I was probably asking for it. In translation: this is the internet. Posts are made. Don't take it personally. And if that doesn't work; having pictures of him.......involving a monkey, a dog, and a snake....... well, things go smoother that way too. </div> is there an icon for a Kiss-ass in here? </div> Dunno. Your head is so far removed from reality, if we had one, I'd doubt you'd find it. </div> Haha You're very predictable & Funny cheers to you Also (I want to play Cpaws game too!) Can you provide evidence of me being removed completely from reality please? Thanks.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 05:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Claud @ Jul 21 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'> is there an icon for a Kiss-ass in here?</div> jk </div> LOl good one. I could not contain myself before MY BAD!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 06:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Jul 21 2008, 05:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well surely attacks on a person don't belong on the site, everyone holds themselves to that regulation. However one can attack someone's idea or opinion. For instance I regard Cpaw and Ghoti as some of the smartest people on the site, but they still argued for hiring Pat Summit as the Nets coach. I think that's a stupid idea. I think that's a dumb idea. I think it's an idiotic statement coming from two brilliant people. People are shades of gray, you can make one good observation without being a genius, one bad idea doesn't make you a bad person. You can detach yourself in this manner if you believe that a single post or idea is not representable of a person's entire basketball knowledge. Now if you feel that this is constant, well, perhaps you two disagree on a lot of issues regarding the New Jersey Nets, but that's ok! Hey even as NI and Cpaw said above, sometimes you just might come to an issue or two where you agree. Of course, this doesn't mean that you should never feel that you can't send me a PM if you come across future concerns. </div> Oh, please provide me a link for that..... This sounds like the "Mecca" of all threads.... </div> It was at BBB/BBF. I'll see if I can find it
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 21 2008, 05:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>http://sportstwo.com/forums/search.html&am...sult_type=posts</div> I must say, nice trick! But still no answers.
If you don't think Pat Summitt could win in the NBA than you are either sexist or don't know anything about her. She's one of the top five breathing basketball coaches. Go ahead and start that thread right here. No need to dig around the BBF graveyard!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 21 2008, 05:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If you don't think Pat Summitt could win in the NBA than you are either sexist or don't know anything about her. She's one of the top five breathing basketball coaches. Go ahead and start that thread right here. No need to dig around the BBF graveyard!</div> Right. We must be sexist. It couldn't be the players who could potentially be sexist and just destroy the team. On a veteran team, maybe that doesn't happen. On a team full of fresh out of college (or rather, should be in college), it could very well. It has nothing to do with her Xs and Os as a basketball coach. Obviously, she is quite brilliant.
Players who won't play for Pat Summit are players who don't want to win. What a great filter to weed those jokers out!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Jul 21 2008, 06:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>i thought this thread was about coors light</div> I have trouble differentiating which is "better", Bud Light or Coors Light. Oh, and since we're venting, I hate you all.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 05:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FOMW @ Jul 21 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 21 2008, 03:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>So now you are saying that your knowledge of their on court displays is limited to nationally televised games? Nice back tracking.</div> No. What I said was that I taped all nationally televised games (which were a large proportion in those days) and so seized the opportunity to view THOSE games multiple times. I went to my local sports bar for years in college to watch the games available only on dish. But grasping that nuance requires attentive reading and comprehension, which are not your long suits, and God forbid that I spelled all this out concretely beforehand because that's the kind of "verbose" thing that so unnerves you and a few others in these parts. </div> No, what you've proved is that you are full of crap. You are attempting to portray that you remember such a fine detail as the interaction of Bird with his teammates from games viewed in a sports bar. Not that many games were nationally televised in those days. Hell, in 1986, CBS was still tape delaying playoff games and showing 10-15 regular season games. TBS was showing 50-60 regular season games a year.</div> I attended Berklee College of Music from 1981-1984. That's on Boylston Street (and Massachusetts Avenue) in Boston. If you need some corroboration, I can scan my degree, asshole. Because the Celtics were such a big deal in the city and in the sports world in general at that time, a large percentage of their games not broadcast nationally were broadcast on local television (channel 4, IIRC), including some road games. I watched those games. A substantial number of their games were also broadcast on CBS and TBS in those days and in later years. There may have only been 50-60 games a year on TBS at that time, but a solid third of them were Celtics games, which if you have anything close to the memory you think you have you will know. I began recording games in 1984 when I got my first VCR. When I attended law school in Tallahassee in the mid-late 80s, and for the time I lived in Orlando in 88-89, I went to local sports bars to watch satellite feeds of every Celtic game not available on national cable, and by then you could find a feed of every one of their games if you knew where to look. I continued the sports bar solution right through Bird's retirement and beyond, seemingly single-handedly keeping Kooter Brown's in Pensacola in business on otherwise slow weeknights until DBS came in vogue and I got my own dish in 1995. In the years from 1986 to his retirement in 1992, I saw every single game Larry Bird played, minus a handful that had to be missed because of unavoidable personal commitments. Now, when you've had a chance to observe someone for that long, it's the abnormal, the out of the ordinary that stands out. Of course, you idiot, I'm not claiming to have perfect recall of every moment he and his teammates spent on the court. What I KNOW is that his displays of emotion toward a teammate were so rare, so uncommon, that I can immediately name off hand those that consisted of something other than a high five, casual-pat-on-the-butt-type gesture. If you care to make an even bigger fool of yourself than you already have by challenging me on this, I will name those occasions. If not, stick your bullshit back up your ass and let it continue to contaminate your being.
Yes, please list out those moments. The 1986 NBA Finals should be enough. Hell, I was willing to you half of the 50-60 games on TBS as Celtics games (but that still isn't a majority of the season)
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 21 2008, 05:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I refuse to mess with him because his super lumberjack sperm just keeps cranking out his own little cpaw army bent on destruction. Sheesh, even Shawn Kemp must have produced a girl at some point.</div> Bitch was a statistical anomaly.
