ok guys I toke Mcdyess, and traded my 6th and 9th for Zach Randolph and a 10th. But before you bash me I made the pick of Mcdyess for defensive purposes so now I can put a front court of Mcdyess and Troy Murphy and still be productive if something happens to Zach. Makes sense right??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerseycarter15 @ Aug 7 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jtballa201 what a horrible trade.</div> please explain really Zach is productive and I almost got insurance if it doesn't work out in a front court of Troy and mcdyess
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerseycarter15 @ Aug 7 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jtballa201 what a horrible trade.</div> please explain really Zach is productive and I almost got insurance if it doesn't work out in a front court of Troy and mcdyess </div> nah man i was kidding good trade
Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerseycarter15 @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jerseycarter15 @ Aug 7 2008, 04:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>jtballa201 what a horrible trade.</div> please explain really Zach is productive and I almost got insurance if it doesn't work out in a front court of Troy and mcdyess </div> nah man i was kidding good trade </div> haha mybad
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does??
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does?? </div> Everyone's been hating on Z-Bo, forever. Seriously. If you're going to bring up defense, never bring up blocking and rebounding. You'll just look silly.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Aug 7 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does?? </div> Everyone's been hating on Z-Bo, forever. Seriously. If you're going to bring up defense, never bring up blocking and rebounding. You'll just look silly. </div> But the man plays defense Ive watched piston games before, I don't mean to sound cocky but I really don't see how someone can bash my team right now except if your talking about perimeter D maybe, I feel pretty confident that I have a lot of weapons
After Diaw, McDyess was on my list.. Now I dont have anymore players I am acctually looking fowards to draft... DARN!!! ... There arent anymore good PFs out there..
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CelticKing @ Aug 7 2008, 04:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>A lot of offense as well with Redd and Melo, plus you have Hinrich dishing assists.</div> exactly I want this team to get out on the break
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does?? </div> McDyess is a very capable rebounder. He's 34 and has had 3 seperate serious knee injuries, He missed 2 and a half full seasons due to these knee issues, and when he came back to playing with the Pistons, he lost all explosiveness. http://www.82games.com/0708/playoffs/07DET11A.HTM 76% of his points were on jumpshots. 98% of those jumpshots were assisted. 3/4 of his points came off of jumpshots that were setup from a teammate. His block and steal numbers are irrelevant. Camby gets a lot of blocks, too, but his defense is overrated. His defense is nothing special at this point in his career, average at best, and that's probably being generous. He's been known for the "ole" defense. Having McDyess at center doesn't help. You have 3 PF's, and Murphy is the only one who has seen extended minutes at C, and that's probably not a good idea. You're frontcourt is very poor defensively. And I'm not sure anyone loves Z-BO unless you love his 20 and 10 averages!
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Aug 7 2008, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does?? </div> Everyone's been hating on Z-Bo, forever. Seriously. If you're going to bring up defense, never bring up blocking and rebounding. You'll just look silly. </div> But the man plays defense Ive watched piston games before, I don't mean to sound cocky but I really don't see how someone can bash my team right now except if your talking about perimeter D maybe, I feel pretty confident that I have a lot of weapons </div> Build your team whatever you like.this is for fun.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jtballa2o1 @ Aug 7 2008, 05:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid Chocolate @ Aug 7 2008, 04:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well drafting McDyess for defensive purposes is a failure in itself. At this point, McDyess is a jump-shooter, who NEEDS to be assisted on his jumpshots. Basically he's a standalone guy who can hit an open jumpshot. But he's damn good at hitting those jump shots. With his knee issues, he should be playing about 20 MPG only. Randolph is terrible. We all know this. jtballa2o1: 171, 250 celticking: Randolph (112), 292 That trade is just mind boggling all around. Trading for Zach Randolph is horrible, and CK had to eat crow on his mistake and make a bad trade based upon where Randolph was picked. Moving down 59 now to move up 42 later. CK sort of screwed himself by picking Zach, but at least was able to get something for him.</div> ok 1st of all mcydess just doesn't sit around and take jumpers getting him for defense is a good idea actually, he averaged close to 9 rebounds per game last year and almost 1 block so hes still somewhat effective now the big deal with Zach ok well he never contributed to winning but he could always get benched on my team in a worst case scanrio and I could still compete and be effective. I dont get it either KC and maybe like 1 or 2 other guys on here hate Zach and now everyone does?? </div> McDyess is a very capable rebounder. He's 34 and has had 3 seperate serious knee injuries, He missed 2 and a half full seasons due to these knee issues, and when he came back to playing with the Pistons, he lost all explosiveness. http://www.82games.com/0708/playoffs/07DET11A.HTM 76% of his points were on jumpshots. 98% of those jumpshots were assisted. 3/4 of his points came off of jumpshots that were setup from a teammate. His block and steal numbers are irrelevant. Camby gets a lot of blocks, too, but his defense is overrated. His defense is nothing special at this point in his career, average at best, and that's probably being generous. He's been known for the "ole" defense. Having McDyess at center doesn't help. You have 3 PF's, and Murphy is the only one who has seen extended minutes at C, and that's probably not a good idea. You're frontcourt is very poor defensively. And I'm not sure anyone loves Z-BO unless you love his 20 and 10 averages! </div> Whatever really my team toke the wrong turn after the 2nd pick doesn't matter
McDyess is an awesome backup PF. He is one of the best shooters in the league so he opens the floor for penetration and he is lethal on pick and pops. He's also a super rebounder. He's still active and a quick leaper. (TBC)
McDyess can't average more than 20 or so MPG and can never play more than 25 even in an emergency. He must be constantly monitored. If he plays too much all of his effectiveness goes away and he is basically worthless.
As for McDyess' defense, that's not why you draft him. He can still bear down if needed and probably get a stop or two, but he only has enough left in the tank to work hard on one end. That means the coach will have to try and hide him defensively.
