What are the pros and cons of each Presidential Candidate and what they stand for?

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  1. Lavalamp

    Lavalamp Member

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    I'm interesting in reading what you think are the pros and cons of each Presidential Candidate and what they stand for?
    Just to get the perspective from Denny Crane, Huevon, RipCity, AEM, Raiders, Real, Hunter, Thoth, and TheBeef.

    Please try to state both Pros and Cons for both candidates. If you feel one candidate`s policy has more pros then cons that`s fine.

    Example:

    <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%"><u>Obama:</u>
    </span>Pros:
    -
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    -

    Cons:
    -
    <span style="font-size:12pt;line-height:100%">-
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    <u>McCain:</u></span>
    Pros:
    -
    -
    -

    Cons:
    -
    -
    -
     
    Lavalamp, Jul 26, 2008
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  2. Denny Crane

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    Obama
    Pros: Rock Star
    Cons: everything else

    McCain:
    Pros: Liberal Republican
    Cons: everything else
     
    Denny Crane, Jul 28, 2008
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  3. TheBeef

    TheBeef Commish of FUN!

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    Obama doesnt know what he stands for until he reads the breifing....McCain is exactly what Denny said he was
     
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  4. Chutney

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    Obama
    Pros: Speaks well
    Cons: Inconsistent stances

    McCain
    Pros: Fought in a war
    Cons: Inconsistent stances
     
    Chutney, Jul 28, 2008
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  5. Real

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    Obama
    Pro: Ronald Reagan/JFK type charisma
    Con: No substantive public policy

    McCain
    Pro: Maverick, does what he thinks is right
    Con: Old
     
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  6. 44Thrilla

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    Obama:

    Pros:
    health care
    cutting taxes for the middle class
    commitment to end the war
    ability to get people involved in whats going on in the country/world
    socially liberal
    young and motivated
    is not George Bush

    Cons:
    a little too far left
    not much of a track record
    not strong enough on illegal immigration

    McCain:

    Pros:
    doesn't always follow the party
    willingness to cut spending and eliminate earmarks
    experienced and well respected among fellow leaders
    is not George Bush

    Cons:
    committed to waste more time and money in Iraq
    permanently cutting taxes for mostly the richest people in the US
    has ties with the religious right
    spent too many years in Washington to be motivated enough to make a difference
    too much of a temper for a position with so much power
     
    44Thrilla, Jul 28, 2008
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    It's been a long day at the office, here are just a few ones I can think of off the top of my head. I bet I am missing a bunch but oh, well.


    Obama:
    <u>Pros:</u>
    - Great public speaker and orator - can inspire the masses
    - Recognizes some of the problems facing America
    - Popular abroad
    - You can relate to him because of his youth

    <u>Cons:</u>
    - Too young and in-experienced; no real government experience
    - Has great "concepts" but hasn't laid out how he will accomplish the goals
    - Extremely left and the thought of him, Pelosi and Reid running the show is scary
    - Yes the health care system is messed up, but universal health care is NOT the answer
    - His philosophy on raising the corporate gains tax will hurt nobody but the average consumer
    - Judicial philosophy leans towards justices who want to be policy makers from the bench
    - Wouldn't trust him in a national crisis
    - Not hard enough on immigration
    - Anti-Drill

    McCain:
    <u>Pros:</u>
    - Very experienced in the political arena
    - Doesn't side with a party just to side with a party
    - Served in the military; extensive foreign policy experience
    - Proven history of working with Democrats and Republicans
    - Judicial philosophy is "spot on"
    - Energy Policy: Drill, Drill, Drill.

    <u>Cons:</u>
    - Age
    - Horrible public speaker
    - Not conservative enough
     
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  8. The Return of the Raider

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    I agree with Thrilla for the most part, except I don't see McCain's anger as being a big deal. Great analysis, Thrilla!
     
    The Return of the Raider, Jul 28, 2008
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Thrilla @ Jul 28 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Obama:

    Pros:
    health care
    cutting taxes for the middle class
    commitment to end the war
    ability to get people involved in whats going on in the country/world
    socially liberal
    young and motivated
    is not George Bush

    Cons:
    a little too far left
    not much of a track record
    not strong enough on illegal immigration

    McCain:

    Pros:
    doesn't always follow the party
    willingness to cut spending and eliminate earmarks
    experienced and well respected among fellow leaders
    is not George Bush

    Cons:
    committed to waste more time and money in Iraq
    permanently cutting taxes for mostly the richest people in the US
    has ties with the religious right
    spent too many years in Washington to be motivated enough to make a difference
    too much of a temper for a position with so much power</div>

    Yeah I agree with Thrilla for the most part, although tax cuts for the rich aren't always bad. Nice job though.
     
    huevonkiller, Jul 29, 2008
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  10. Denny Crane

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    Just an FYI.

    The "rich" or "people" making over $200K or $250K aren't always people. They're more often than not the corner drug store or restaurant or any of a number of obvious small business that people would make as an LLC for liability purposes.

    This is why those who have a clue say it hurts small business.
     
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  11. The Return of the Raider

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just an FYI.

    The "rich" or "people" making over $200K or $250K aren't always people. They're more often than not the corner drug store or restaurant or any of a number of obvious small business that people would make as an LLC for liability purposes.

    This is why those who have a clue say it hurts small business.</div>

    Well, you're obviously the only person in the room with clue, Denny. Why in the world do you hang around us dumb people?
     
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  12. Vintage

    Vintage Defeating Communism...

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just an FYI.

    The "rich" or "people" making over $200K or $250K aren't always people. They're more often than not the corner drug store or restaurant or any of a number of obvious small business that people would make as an LLC for liability purposes.

    This is why those who have a clue say it hurts small business.</div>

    Well, you're obviously the only person in the room with clue, Denny. Why in the world do you hang around us dumb people?
    </div>


    To bring you the truth.

    Seriously.
     
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  13. Denny Crane

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    Well, I was thinking more of the politicians and pundits I see on TV advocating raising taxes, but oh well.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 29 2008, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just an FYI.

    The "rich" or "people" making over $200K or $250K aren't always people. They're more often than not the corner drug store or restaurant or any of a number of obvious small business that people would make as an LLC for liability purposes.

    This is why those who have a clue say it hurts small business.</div>

    Well, you're obviously the only person in the room with clue, Denny. Why in the world do you hang around us dumb people?
    </div>


    To bring you the truth.

    Seriously.
    </div>

    That's quite a compliment to you, Denny.
     
    The Return of the Raider, Jul 29, 2008
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Well, I was thinking more of the politicians and pundits I see on TV advocating raising taxes, but oh well.</div>

    Oh sure, I can see your point on this.
     
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  16. Denny Crane

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 02:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Vintage @ Jul 29 2008, 04:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 29 2008, 03:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Jul 29 2008, 02:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Just an FYI.

    The "rich" or "people" making over $200K or $250K aren't always people. They're more often than not the corner drug store or restaurant or any of a number of obvious small business that people would make as an LLC for liability purposes.

    This is why those who have a clue say it hurts small business.</div>

    Well, you're obviously the only person in the room with clue, Denny. Why in the world do you hang around us dumb people?
    </div>


    To bring you the truth.

    Seriously.
    </div>

    That's quite a compliment to you, Denny.
    </div>

    Yeah, it is. You'll find that if I'm wrong about something, I'm humble enough to admit it and eat any crow I deserve for it.
     
    Denny Crane, Jul 29, 2008
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  17. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    lol, stop bragging about your humility Denny!
     
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  18. Denny Crane

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Chutney @ Jul 29 2008, 06:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>lol, stop bragging about your humility Denny!</div>

    My bad for bringing it up [​IMG]
     
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    obama pros:
    good speaker
    youth

    cons:
    inexperience

    mccain pros:
    experience

    cons:
    cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment
     
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  20. Chutney

    Chutney MON-STRAWRRR!!1!

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (soul driver)</div><div class='quotemain'>cheated on wife #1 with the eventual wife #2 while wife #1 was undergoing chemo treatment</div>
    That has absolutely nothing to do with his presidential qualifications, but wow.... that's cold.
     
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