<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 28 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I'm not too sure how much burn he'll get, with so many vets in front of him, but I hope you're right.</div> Who? Only have Simmons and Hayes. Hassell will not impact him. If Simmons is the starter I see CDR beating out Hayes to be the main back-up at SF.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 28 2008, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets look like a lottery team with no hope of making the playoffs. Therefore, they addressed their biggest offseason need</div> I don't know . . . you could easily be right, but you could just as easily be wrong. It's easy to denigrate the team because they have no "stars" other than Vince, but they appear to have improved in a number of areas from last year, when they were at least fighting for a playoff spot for most of the season. Obviously, whether the rookies and Yi can contribute, and how much, will go a long way to determining if this will be a successful season. </div> Some of the teams the Nets were fighting for a playoff spot have improved and the Nets were 11-18 post All-Star break. As for the Nets roster, I couldn't care less about stars. The bench is certainly better and they look like a team that will actually be able to play some defense. However, the roster is still very flawed and the chance for respectability rest squarely on how quickly Brook Lopez can become better than a sub 50% shooting college 7 footer projects to be. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think Vince, if healthy, will be a total stud, though.</div> He could put up lots of pretty stats. Pretty stats <> stud
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They still need a third center, however. I have no one in mind, but I think they are looking for a veteran mid-level center that has a decent mid-range jumper. They cannot go into the season with just the injury-prone Boone and the rookie Lopez at that position. They will be doomed.</div> KVH, Sean and Hassell for Jeff Foster, Diener and a lottery protected pick would accomplish that, clears cap space in 2009 and adds a 3rd pg. Wouldn't be surprised if Indy wants to retain Kareem Rush but need to shed some salary in order to stay under the luxury tax. I wonder if targeting teams free agents in order to get the team do trade with you is the new Kiki/Thorn plan? They talked about JR Smith and wanted to do a deal with Denver for Camby. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 28 2008, 12:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Some of the teams the Nets were fighting for a playoff spot have improved and the Nets were 11-18 post All-Star break. As for the Nets roster, I couldn't care less about stars. The bench is certainly better and they look like a team that will actually be able to play some defense. However, the roster is still very flawed and the chance for respectability rest squarely on how quickly Brook Lopez can become better than a sub 50% shooting college 7 footer projects to be.</div> I can't disagree with that, which is why I am advocating that the Nets acquire another center. Again, I think that the upside of their season arc is what the Sixers accomplished last year: a flawed, poor start, followed by gradual improvement as their young players started to mesh, and a final rush into the playoffs. <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>I think Vince, if healthy, will be a total stud, though.</div> <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>He could put up lots of pretty stats. Pretty stats <> stud</div> Now that I disagree with. I have a lot of faith and confidence in him; especially since he is now surrounded by better outside shooters. Just think about how terrible Kidd, Boki, Marcus Williams, Malik Allen, Krstic, and to a certain extent RJ were last year. They've all been replaced by better, morre consistent shooters. They are all going to flourish playing with Carter . . . I guess we'll see, though.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They still need a third center, however. I have no one in mind, but I think they are looking for a veteran mid-level center that has a decent mid-range jumper. They cannot go into the season with just the injury-prone Boone and the rookie Lopez at that position. They will be doomed.</div> KVH, Sean and Hassell for Jeff Foster, Diener and a lottery protected pick would accomplish that, clears cap space in 2009 and adds a 3rd pg. Wouldn't be surprised if Indy wants to retain Kareem Rush but need to shed some salary in order to stay under the luxury tax. I wonder if targeting teams free agents in order to get the team do trade with you is the new Kiki/Thorn plan? They talked about JR Smith and wanted to do a deal with Denver for Camby. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist. </div> It's certainly a possibility.
From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."</div> I'm really curious as to what those moves are, and how big.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."</div> I'm really curious as to what those moves are, and how big. </div> Those bastards have had me riveted with what they could be concoting! Teases.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."</div> I'm really curious as to what those moves are, and how big. </div> Now you've gone and done it pegs. Feeding random speculation in the Nets forum...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 28 2008, 02:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Jul 28 2008, 02:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>From Al's blog:<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE </div><div class='quotemain'>Regardless of the Krstic situation, the Nets are working on other moves. A team source said, "There will be a couple more."</div> I'm really curious as to what those moves are, and how big. </div> Now you've gone and done it pegs. Feeding random speculation in the Nets forum... </div> What the hell would we do with ourselves if we weren't randomly speculating?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Now that I disagree with. I have a lot of faith and confidence in him; especially since he is now surrounded by better outside shooters. Just think about how terrible Kidd, Boki, Marcus Williams, Malik Allen, Krstic, and to a certain extent RJ were last year. They've all been replaced by better, morre consistent shooters. They are all going to flourish playing with Carter . . . I guess we'll see, though.</div> shooters suddenly forget how to shoot after joining the nets...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 28 2008, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 28 2008, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They still need a third center, however. I have no one in mind, but I think they are looking for a veteran mid-level center that has a decent mid-range jumper. They cannot go into the season with just the injury-prone Boone and the rookie Lopez at that position. They will be doomed.</div> KVH, Sean and Hassell for Jeff Foster, Diener and a lottery protected pick would accomplish that, clears cap space in 2009 and adds a 3rd pg. Wouldn't be surprised if Indy wants to retain Kareem Rush but need to shed some salary in order to stay under the luxury tax. I wonder if targeting teams free agents in order to get the team do trade with you is the new Kiki/Thorn plan? They talked about JR Smith and wanted to do a deal with Denver for Camby. Maybe I'm a conspiracy theorist. </div> It's certainly a possibility. </div> Here's the potential depth chart if we could swing this little deal with Indy and cut Swift and Ager. PG: Harris, Dooling, Deiner SG: Carter, Hayes, Carroll SF: Simmons, CDR, Hodge PF: Yi, Najera, Anderson C: Boone, Lopez, Foster Solid mix of vets and young guys and all are the "high character" and "hard workers" that they've been after. Average age would be 25.6 with no one over 32. Plus we'll be $12.5mm under the cap next year.
oh and to add... there are a lot of solid FA next year as well... 1)kobe - ETO (i kno seems unlikely but hey u never kno with kobe) 2)boozer - player option ( would be amazing ) 3)marion - UFA ( for the rite price why not? ) 4)nash - team option (unlikely) 5)okur - ETO (we dont really need him if Yi pans out...) 6)iverson - UFA ( ehhh no thanks ) 7)artest - UFA ( i love this guy personally but doesnt fit the whole nets character ) 8)odom - UFA ( hmm he was already the 3rd option in the lakers and he still disappeared in the finals - he is so talented as well 9)hedo - ETO ( solid 3... and he has really become a #1 scorer ) 10)bynum - restricted ( unlikely unless he wanted to play for his home town/state ) the top 10 list was from hoopsworld... i just added my own personal opinions... do go killing me now
My dream scenario-as outlined in the Josh Smith thread- would be to sign and trade for Smith now using expiring contracts and draft picks along with some Sean or Boone and then find a way to trade Carter to dump his contract either now or at the deadline. I say trade Carter only because with him and Smith we likely couldnt offer up enough for LBJ, and Smith's contract would likely be smaller than Carter's so it wouldnt affect our LeBron Fund. With Smith in the fold for the next two years we try to develop our young players led by Smith, Harris and Yi and hopefully have enough youth and potential to attract LeBron when he becomes a FA.
