Lowry or Crittenton?

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  1. Dumpy

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:17 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Didn't he sign a two year deal? Crittenton might be a star in two years. If I didn't like the players offered, I 'd agree, but those two are exactly what I think the Nets need.</div>

    it seems like nenad can opt out after one year if he has the opportunity to return to the NBA, but who knows.
     
  2. ghoti

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    I bought UEFA 2008 for PS3. I play it all the time. I know FIFA 2009 will be better. I could have waited until October and saved 50 bucks, but I would have missed out on a lot of enjoyment. That's how I see this deal.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I bought UEFA 2008 for PS3. I play it all the time. I know FIFA 2009 will be better. I could have waited until October and saved 50 bucks, but I would have missed out on a lot of enjoyment. That's how I see this deal.</div>

    ... w/ your enjoyment being the end result/goal. that is much easier to satisfy, compared to winning a title. The team could had been better with Lowry or Crittenton, but would it had even made this squad a playoff team? I don't think so.

    I think not pulling the trigger on such a move made sense, even if the Nets can't get something for Krstic 2 years from now.

    -Petey
     
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    You may have your wish Ghoti.

    Saw this in Hoopsworld:
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hoopsworld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Nenad's new deal does have some buyout language and there is talk that New Jersey is working on a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies to trade his rights, a move that will help Memphis reach the NBA minimum in terms of salary, as the qualifying offer sheets count against the cap.</div>
    Didn't know you could trade rights. Seems Memphis needs the salary.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 29 2008, 11:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You may have your wish Ghoti.

    Saw this in Hoopsworld:
    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Hoopsworld)</div><div class='quotemain'>Nenad's new deal does have some buyout language and there is talk that New Jersey is working on a deal with the Memphis Grizzlies to trade his rights, a move that will help Memphis reach the NBA minimum in terms of salary, as the qualifying offer sheets count against the cap.</div>
    Didn't know you could trade rights. Seems Memphis needs the salary.
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    I know you can trade rights to unsigned drafted players... ie Marc Gasol from the Lakers to the Grizzles.

    I didn't know you could trade rights in this manner.

    I'm not sure this works.

    -Petey
     
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    Guys like Lowry make decent teams playoff teams all the time. Crittenton has star potential. The Nets need a young PG. Either would definitely be a stride towards a title once the centerpiece (whoever that is) emerges.
     
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    I asked about trading his rights and everybody said no!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys like Lowry make decent teams playoff teams all the time. Crittenton has star potential. The Nets need a young PG. Either would definitely be a stride towards a title once the centerpiece (whoever that is) emerges.</div>

    The Nets aren't even a decent team. Gotta get that centerpiece first, and build around it. Not other way around.

    -Petey
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I asked about trading his rights and everybody said no!</div>

    That'll teach you!
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 29 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys like Lowry make decent teams playoff teams all the time. Crittenton has star potential. The Nets need a young PG. Either would definitely be a stride towards a title once the centerpiece (whoever that is) emerges.</div>

    The Nets aren't even a decent team. Gotta get that centerpiece first, and build around it. Not other way around.

    -Petey
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    I think they'll be better than you think.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 29 2008, 11:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 29 2008, 11:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 11:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Guys like Lowry make decent teams playoff teams all the time. Crittenton has star potential. The Nets need a young PG. Either would definitely be a stride towards a title once the centerpiece (whoever that is) emerges.</div>

    The Nets aren't even a decent team. Gotta get that centerpiece first, and build around it. Not other way around.

    -Petey
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    I think they'll be better than you think.
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    Unless the rookies, Boone or Harris take their game to another level, how is this team MUCH better than the 04/05Nets team led by RJ (Pre Kidds' return, and trade for Carter)?

    -Petey
     
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    You can build a team with players who are inexpensive, versitile, team-oriented, defensive-minded and fit different systems and styles so when the franchise is signed or drafted, nobody skips a beat. The Nets are kicking ass doing that right now.
     
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    Petey, that's just stupid. This team is better than last year's, never mind Nov. 2004. There was no one close to Carter or Harris' level on that team and every bench player was a joke compared his current Net counterpart.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Petey, that's just stupid. This team is better than last year's, never mind Nov. 2004. There was no one close to Carter or Harris' level on that team and every bench player was a joke compared his current Net counterpart.</div>

    I acknowledge they are better. My post asked how much better.

    That was a very hard Nets' team to watch. Comparing this team to that unit, and the Nets teams in the past few years who have just sneaked into the playoffs as a 8th seed... doesn't give me much hope for this squad as a playoff team.

    -Petey
     
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    Well, that's a win, too! The Nets are better off high in the lottery than in the playoffs. I'm still going to root like hell for them to win every game, though.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Jul 29 2008, 12:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 29 2008, 12:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Petey, that's just stupid. This team is better than last year's, never mind Nov. 2004. There was no one close to Carter or Harris' level on that team and every bench player was a joke compared his current Net counterpart.</div>

    I acknowledge they are better. My post asked how much better.

    That was a very hard Nets' team to watch. Comparing this team to that unit, and the Nets teams in the past few years who have just sneaked into the playoffs as a 8th seed... doesn't give me much hope for this squad as a playoff team.

    -Petey
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    I think they are going to be hard to watch for the first four weeks of the season. Then they will either lose interest or start to develop and mesh. Look how the sixers turned around their season last year! The Nets could replicate that. Or they could lose interest and stay flat the entire season.
     
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    crittenton...both aren't pure pgs but javaris has the athleticism and size to be a sg...

    lowry has shown more and is a terrific on-ball defender and gets into passing lanes...

    but defense can be taught but size cannot...

    and at the current state of the nets, we need to take risks and not play safe...if we were the celtics then we can just take lowry and maintain status quo...
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 29 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 29 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently Memphis was offering the Nets choice of either Lowry or Crittenton in a S&T for Nenad. They are obviously shopping one of them.

    If you had a choice of either one who would you choose?</div>

    I don't know anything about Crittenden. Lowry I think is really short, plays tenacious defense, and has not much offensive game. I'd probably choose to keep the rights to Nenad. Neither Lowry or Crittenden would ever be anything more than a ten-minute-a-night backup, and I'm not sure how much of an upgrade either would be over Hodge.
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    Both Lowry and Crit are significantly better than Hodge and are much more than ten minute per game backups. Then Nets have very few players (2 to be precise) that are more talented than them in the backcourt.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cpawfan @ Jul 29 2008, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Jul 29 2008, 11:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Jul 29 2008, 10:14 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Apparently Memphis was offering the Nets choice of either Lowry or Crittenton in a S&T for Nenad. They are obviously shopping one of them.

    If you had a choice of either one who would you choose?</div>

    I don't know anything about Crittenden. Lowry I think is really short, plays tenacious defense, and has not much offensive game. I'd probably choose to keep the rights to Nenad. Neither Lowry or Crittenden would ever be anything more than a ten-minute-a-night backup, and I'm not sure how much of an upgrade either would be over Hodge.
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    Both Lowry and Crit are significantly better than Hodge and are much more than ten minute per game backups. Then Nets have very few players (2 to be precise) that are more talented than them in the backcourt.
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    they are unlikely to receive more than ten minutes a night on the Nets the way they are currently constructed
     

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