<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 30 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Adding to what I just said, he can restructure his contract to fit into anyone's cap space.</div> My guess is that he told the Packers he'd restructure for other teams; but wouldn't for them. Puts pressure on the Packers to trade him...
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 30 2008, 01:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>They want to trade him. He won't go to the teams that want him. So, yes. He is extorting them because they took a stand he knows they can't go back on. I still want to know if he even wants to play for the Packers.</div> The Packers are the ones that can choose to make this easy or difficult for themselves. They have already decided that he won't play on their team (which is completely dumbfounding anyway), and they are asking for way too much to any potential suitors. Bottom line is, if the Pack wanted to move Favre, they could. If they asked for a bag of Doritoes in exchange for him, any team would take him. They already planned on not having him on their team this year, so any compensation they get for him is positive compensation. Meanwhile, Favre is waiting patiently for them to make up their minds. </div> No team is going to accept a deal for Favre if they know he won't play for them. The Packers would trade him in a second if they could. </div> I understand. However, if they take a team on Favre's list, and don't ask for 1st round picks, the deal will get done. Favre can restructure his contract to fit there. If the Pack is asking for really high amounts of compensation, they are simply falling victim to their own opportunistic greed. Anything that another team will offer for Favre is more than they expected to get this year with him retiring.
I think Favre's list includes the Vikings and the Vikings. If that's the case, what should the Packers do? Favre's calling all the shots.
Demand a first round pick. If they get that, it's okay to have to deal with Favre in purple for one year.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 30 2008, 12:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Demand a first round pick</div> What is funny about this to me, is that the Vikings could lose draft picks for tampering, and still not get Favre.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 30 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Demand a first round pick</div> OK. They said no. What now?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 30 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Demand a first round pick</div> OK. They said no. What now? </div> We're playing the "what if" game of whether or not Favre's list of teams is only <u>one</u> single team. What are the odds of there only being one team on his list? I think very slim.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Giantsfan1 @ Jul 30 2008, 12:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>This is all Favre's fault because of his indecisive BS. If he told them in May when he was talking to the Vikings he was positive he was ready to go, then it'd be gravy. I just want Brett Favre to show up to camp just because I want to see the awkward Aaron Rodgers and Mike McCarthy interviews</div> When you are dealing with great athletes in their late-30's, you better be ready to deal with some waffling. The Packers asked Favre for an answer in March and he tried to give them an honest one for how he felt at the time. The NFL calendar isn't condusive for dealing with older athletes and asking them to honestly assess if they can physically stand up to another NFL season. That's tough, but that life as an NFL GM. If Ted Thompson can't handle that, then he doesn't belong in the NFL. What about Michael Strahan and his indecisive BS last year? Didn't Strahan help the Giants win a Super Bowl last year? The Pack was one game away from the Super Bowl this year and, with Favre, they would have another shot this year, but Thompson wants to throw that away. Fine, but let Favre go to a team that has a competitive chance. Favre deserves that much.
Being a Packer fan, I would love to have Favre back because it's the best chance to win a SuperBowl. With that being said, I also love Aaron Rodgers chances of at least leading this team to the playoffs. I'm upset of the mess the management and Favre have created after a so-called 'happy ending'.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 30 2008, 01:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 30 2008, 01:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Demand a first round pick</div> OK. They said no. What now? </div> We're playing the "what if" game of whether or not Favre's list of teams is only <u>one</u> single team. What are the odds of there only being one team on his list? I think very slim. </div> Why do you think so? Favre told the Packers he wanted to come back and they were set to accomodate him, then he told them forget it. Now we find out he was talking to his buddy Bevell after that and now he wants to play all of a sudden. Also, not every team wants Favre. The Bucs do. The Jets might if he were motivated to go there. The Ravens passed. The Redskins make sense, but I haven't heard word one out of them. The Bears might want him, but that's no different than sending him to Minnesota.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you think so? Favre told the Packers he wanted to come back and they were set to accomodate him, then he told them forget it. Now we find out he was talking to his buddy Bevell after that and now he wants to play all of a sudden. Also, not every team wants Favre. The Bucs do. The Jets might if he were motivated to go there. The Ravens passed. The Redskins make sense, but I haven't heard word one out of them. The Bears might want him, but that's no different than sending him to Minnesota.</div> Brett Favre and his restructured contract to Tampa Bay for Bag of Doritoes and 7th rounder gets him to Tampa instantly. Gruden loves playing musical QB's.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 30 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you think so? Favre told the Packers he wanted to come back and they were set to accomodate him, then he told them forget it. Now we find out he was talking to his buddy Bevell after that and now he wants to play all of a sudden. Also, not every team wants Favre. The Bucs do. The Jets might if he were motivated to go there. The Ravens passed. The Redskins make sense, but I haven't heard word one out of them. The Bears might want him, but that's no different than sending him to Minnesota.</div> Brett Favre and his restructured contract to Tampa Bay for Bag of Doritoes and 7th rounder gets him to Tampa instantly. Gruden loves playing musical QB's. </div> What if Favre doesn't want to go there? It doesn't seem like he does. As soon as their interest hit the media, stories about how he thinks Tampa is "too hot" and how the offense is alien to him started popping up. Just say for the sake of argument that Favre will only play for the Vikings or Bears. What should the Packers do?
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Return of the Raider @ Jul 30 2008, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why do you think so? Favre told the Packers he wanted to come back and they were set to accomodate him, then he told them forget it. Now we find out he was talking to his buddy Bevell after that and now he wants to play all of a sudden. Also, not every team wants Favre. The Bucs do. The Jets might if he were motivated to go there. The Ravens passed. The Redskins make sense, but I haven't heard word one out of them. The Bears might want him, but that's no different than sending him to Minnesota.</div> Brett Favre and his restructured contract to Tampa Bay for Bag of Doritoes and 7th rounder gets him to Tampa instantly. Gruden loves playing musical QB's. </div> What if Favre doesn't want to go there? It doesn't seem like he does. As soon as their interest hit the media, stories about how he thinks Tampa is "too hot" and how the offense is alien to him started popping up. Just say for the sake of argument that Favre will only play for the Vikings or Bears. What should the Packers do? </div> If Favre is such a crappy QB that he doesn't even deserve the right to challenge the great Aaron Rodgers, then maybe the Pack should just release him.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 12:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (DolfanDale @ Jul 30 2008, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Jul 30 2008, 02:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tim @ Jul 30 2008, 03:18 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Favre not playing at all should sound way better than Favre playing for Minnesota.</div> It does, but that means he's essentially extorting them for $12M. </div> It doesn't mean that at all. It means that the Packers front office is made up of a bunch of arses. They don't want Favre to play for the Pack and they don't want Favre to play for someone else. That's being selfish. Given everything that Favre has done for Green Bay, he should be allowed to play for someone while he can still physically do it. Considering his performance and how far he got the Pack last year, the fact that he's not the Packers starter is indisputable truth that Ted Thompson has crap for brains. </div> They want to trade him. He won't go to the teams that want him. So, yes. He is extorting them because they took a stand he knows they can't go back on. I still want to know if he even wants to play for the Packers. </div> Come on, the guy is 38 (almost 39) and the Packers are that afraid of letting him play somewhere else? If they're going to hold him hostage then they need to pay the consequences. It goes both ways.
Is there such a thing as a no trade clause in the NFL? If not, send him off to a crap team for a first.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (#1_War_Poet_ForLife @ Jul 30 2008, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is there such a thing as a no trade clause in the NFL? If not, send him off to a crap team for a first.</div> He would just tell that team he was going to retire, and they wouldn't do it. Essentially he has a no-trade clause.
The Packers answered my question. First, they offered him $20M to stay away. Now they are caving and they will trade him where he wants to go.
