Nets Getting No Calls for Swift, Williams

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  1. pegs

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets aren’t done yet…it’s been the mantra of the off-season and Rod Thorn says it’s still true. The team is looking for a third guard and has a surplus of big men. It’s been reported the team would like to trade Stromile Swift or Sean Williams, but Al Iannazzone reports, they haven’t been sought after in trade talks. As for Andres Nocioni, the Nets are interested but may have filled that need with Eddie Najera.</div>

    [​IMG] Nets' Next Move - Al Iannazzone - The Record

    Nobody's calling for Sean! Sweet. Disappointing with Swift, but is there really a need to trade him? I don't think so.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 1 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets aren’t done yet…it’s been the mantra of the off-season and Rod Thorn says it’s still true. The team is looking for a third guard and has a surplus of big men. It’s been reported the team would like to trade Stromile Swift or Sean Williams, but Al Iannazzone reports, they haven’t been sought after in trade talks. As for Andres Nocioni, the Nets are interested but may have filled that need with Eddie Najera.</div>

    [​IMG] Nets' Next Move - Al Iannazzone - The Record

    Nobody's calling for Sean! Sweet. Disappointing with Swift, but is there really a need to trade him? I don't think so.
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    Swift is truly worthless, and he won't be traded unless he is combined with a real asset (even if it is cash). The "need" to trade him can be summed up as follows:
    (1) When he plays, will he be able to succeed in Frank's system, or will he immediately become the weak link? (for this team to be successful, EVERYONE will have to be on board)
    (2) When he doesn't play, will he complain and just be a distraction?
    (3) Could the roster spot be better utilized for someone like Hodge or Carroll--or a legitimate third center?
    (4) As they have done in the past, do the Nets intend to start the season with a 14-man roster? (in which case merely buying out Ager will not be enough if they intend to address the PG and C depth issues)

    They will be able to trade Sean.
     
  3. Petey

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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Aug 1 2008, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 1 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets aren’t done yet…it’s been the mantra of the off-season and Rod Thorn says it’s still true. The team is looking for a third guard and has a surplus of big men. It’s been reported the team would like to trade Stromile Swift or Sean Williams, but Al Iannazzone reports, they haven’t been sought after in trade talks. As for Andres Nocioni, the Nets are interested but may have filled that need with Eddie Najera.</div>

    [​IMG] Nets' Next Move - Al Iannazzone - The Record

    Nobody's calling for Sean! Sweet. Disappointing with Swift, but is there really a need to trade him? I don't think so.
    </div>

    Swift is truly worthless, and he won't be traded unless he is combined with a real asset (even if it is cash). The "need" to trade him can be summed up as follows:
    (1) When he plays, will he be able to succeed in Frank's system, or will he immediately become the weak link? (for this team to be successful, EVERYONE will have to be on board)
    (2) When he doesn't play, will he complain and just be a distraction?
    (3) Could the roster spot be better utilized for someone like Hodge or Carroll--or a legitimate third center?
    (4) As they have done in the past, do the Nets intend to start the season with a 14-man roster? (in which case merely buying out Ager will not be enough if they intend to address the PG and C depth issues)

    They will be able to trade Sean.
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    Think Thorn and Kiki have asked too much for Sean on the 1st pass around?

    -Petey
     
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    "Nobody's calling for Sean" - to me this is good news [​IMG]
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Aug 1 2008, 09:03 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Aug 1 2008, 09:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 1 2008, 08:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NetsDaily)</div><div class='quotemain'>The Nets aren’t done yet…it’s been the mantra of the off-season and Rod Thorn says it’s still true. The team is looking for a third guard and has a surplus of big men. It’s been reported the team would like to trade Stromile Swift or Sean Williams, but Al Iannazzone reports, they haven’t been sought after in trade talks. As for Andres Nocioni, the Nets are interested but may have filled that need with Eddie Najera.</div>

    [​IMG] Nets' Next Move - Al Iannazzone - The Record

    Nobody's calling for Sean! Sweet. Disappointing with Swift, but is there really a need to trade him? I don't think so.
    </div>

    Swift is truly worthless, and he won't be traded unless he is combined with a real asset (even if it is cash). The "need" to trade him can be summed up as follows:
    (1) When he plays, will he be able to succeed in Frank's system, or will he immediately become the weak link? (for this team to be successful, EVERYONE will have to be on board)
    (2) When he doesn't play, will he complain and just be a distraction?
    (3) Could the roster spot be better utilized for someone like Hodge or Carroll--or a legitimate third center?
    (4) As they have done in the past, do the Nets intend to start the season with a 14-man roster? (in which case merely buying out Ager will not be enough if they intend to address the PG and C depth issues)

    They will be able to trade Sean.
    </div>

    Think Thorn and Kiki have asked too much for Sean on the 1st pass around?

    -Petey
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    I think they are probably trying to bundle Sean with some other players tht they don't want, and they have to find a combination that makes sense to another team. I think they'll find a match eventually.
     
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    Why would they be calling for Sean? He's a great shot blocker with a better-than-expected offensive game but he's someone who struggled to play a full 82 game season. His fading away late in the season is probably the reason teams are reluctant to trade for him.
     
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    Everyone thinks it's good news that no one wants Sean. It makes me wonder.

    Actually it scares me that 30 teams full of talent evaluators don't see something there.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everyone thinks it's good news that no one wants Sean. It makes me wonder.

    Actually it scares me that 30 teams full of talent evaluators don't see something there.</div>

    This is Rod Thorn we're talking about, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going around asking for Ben Gordon, Josh Smith, etc.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would they be calling for Sean? He's a great shot blocker with a better-than-expected offensive game but he's someone who struggled to play a full 82 game season. His fading away late in the season is probably the reason teams are reluctant to trade for him.</div>
    That can be written off by the lack of basketball he played over the prior year. A lot of rookies fade. They would discount for that and still go after him if they saw some potential there.

    I hope the Nets are just asking for too much.
     
  10. Real

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    Why give up a boat load for Josh Smith when you have a hyper-athletic shot blocking prospect with enormous upside on your own team already?

    Develop Sean, don't let him go to the Hawks or Bulls or any other team and become the player he's supposed to become.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Aug 1 2008, 10:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 10:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Everyone thinks it's good news that no one wants Sean. It makes me wonder.

    Actually it scares me that 30 teams full of talent evaluators don't see something there.</div>

    This is Rod Thorn we're talking about, though. I wouldn't be surprised if he was going around asking for Ben Gordon, Josh Smith, etc.
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    I hope, but I would think Ianazzone would say something like "no teams are meeting management's requsts for Sean." Rather than just saying no one is interested.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would they be calling for Sean? He's a great shot blocker with a better-than-expected offensive game but he's someone who struggled to play a full 82 game season. His fading away late in the season is probably the reason teams are reluctant to trade for him.</div>
    That can be written off by the lack of basketball he played over the prior year. A lot of rookies fade. They would discount for that and still go after him if they saw some potential there.

    I hope the Nets are just asking for too much.
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    I absolutely agree, but other teams probably don't know that.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would they be calling for Sean? He's a great shot blocker with a better-than-expected offensive game but he's someone who struggled to play a full 82 game season. His fading away late in the season is probably the reason teams are reluctant to trade for him.</div>
    That can be written off by the lack of basketball he played over the prior year. A lot of rookies fade. They would discount for that and still go after him if they saw some potential there.

    I hope the Nets are just asking for too much.
    </div>

    I absolutely agree, but other teams probably don't know that.
    </div>
    They're not idiots. They scouted all these guys coming out of college.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 09:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Aug 1 2008, 09:54 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Real @ Aug 1 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Why would they be calling for Sean? He's a great shot blocker with a better-than-expected offensive game but he's someone who struggled to play a full 82 game season. His fading away late in the season is probably the reason teams are reluctant to trade for him.</div>
    That can be written off by the lack of basketball he played over the prior year. A lot of rookies fade. They would discount for that and still go after him if they saw some potential there.

    I hope the Nets are just asking for too much.
    </div>

    I absolutely agree, but other teams probably don't know that.
    </div>
    They're not idiots. They scouted all these guys coming out of college.
    </div>

    They're not all great thinkers either.

    Whatever the reason, they look at a prospect like Sean being benched, and no matter what the reason is it has to raise some red flags.
     
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    Sean Williams isn't Josh Smith. Smith is a better shooter, rebounder, and all around scorer.
     
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    Nice, I like it that no one wants Sean, but kind of a bummer that the Nets can't get something for Swift.
     
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    i dont see why people are so shocked by this.

    1- why would someone want Swift now? His contract is going to be very important around the trade deadline when teams realize that they suck and need to clear cap room.

    2- As for sean, he did fall to us in the draft. So I dont see people automatically changing their mind about him. IMO I also think that Thorn is packaging him with another player.
     
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    I'm quite upset that the Nets are looking to trade Sean Williams. They may not be getting calls for him, now, but sooner or later, it's going to happen. Hopefully by then, they decide that he is a valuable asset.

    As for Stromile, what can you expect? No one wants this guy. He's an unattractive player. The Nets will need to combine him with another player or cash if they want to teams to even consider trading for him.
     
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    <div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J Piz @ Aug 1 2008, 10:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Sean Williams isn't Josh Smith. Smith is a better shooter, rebounder, and all around scorer.</div>

    Of course he isn't, but he has that athleticism and potental.
     
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    swift is a nice asset to have this year...he can be great for a trade with a non-playoff team clearing out cap space...and also, swift will be playing his ass off as he will be playing for another contract...maybe the last of his career...i remember one game last year when he got his offensive game going with some pretty dunks and he got so pumped up he was actually playing defense...there was one point in the game when the nets were pressing and stro effectively bothered the other team's guards with his length and footspeed ala scottie pippen...
     

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