<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 13 2008, 07:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>come on man Wallace isn't close to Iggy and Foster couldn't hold Dalemberts jock</div> I think Lee's better than Foster, too. I do like Foster a LOT, though. I would rather have Brewer than Bibby, too. And to be fair, his top 2 players are better than my top 2. Like Arenas = Pierce (maybe) but Amare > Iggy. Offensively.
PG: Stephon Marbury/Eric Gordon SG: Mike Miller/Martell Webster SF: King James PF: Chris Wilcox C : Jermaine O'Neal I'm throwin' myself to the dogs.....rate it
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: Stephon Marbury/Eric Gordon SG: Mike Miller/Martell Webster SF: King James PF: Chris Wilcox C : Jermaine O'Neal I'm throwin' myself to the dogs.....rate it</div> Heh I'd play Miller at PG and Webster at SG. Marbury once was an elite PG, but his spirit has been broken for several seasons. Your team is much better than the current Cavaliers team. Not sure it would beat this year's Celtics tho.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 13 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>come on man Wallace isn't close to Iggy and Foster couldn't hold Dalemberts jock</div> I know Iggy is a winner and two years younger and Wallace has always been on a losing team so thats why Iggy gets the edge but if you just looked at the stats they are so similar. Player A Player B 19.9 ppg 19.4 ppg 5.4 rebounds 6.0 rebs 4.8 assists 3.5 ast 2.1 steals 2.1 stl 45.6 fg % 44.9 fg % 1.2 3pm 1.2 3pm .6 Blk .9 blk A is Iggy and B is wallace, very little difference in stats look how they faced off against each other. http://www.btgraphix.com/nba/matchup.asp?e...gl&id2=3826 exactly the same Dalembert is better than Foster no doubt but neither are game changers and both focus more on defense than offense and both are great rebounders. So even though Dalembert is better than Foster its much less of an impact than lets say Amare against David Lee or Pierce against Brewer
Foster can't win a starting job on a team that needs a C. Think about it. He gets his boards (lots of them, granted) against 2nd units.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 13 2008, 10:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>come on man Wallace isn't close to Iggy and Foster couldn't hold Dalemberts jock</div> I know Iggy is a winner and two years younger and Wallace has always been on a losing team so thats why Iggy gets the edge but if you just looked at the stats they are so similar. Player A Player B 19.9 ppg 19.4 ppg 5.4 rebounds 6.0 rebs 4.8 assists 3.5 ast 2.1 steals 2.1 stl 45.6 fg % 44.9 fg % 1.2 3pm 1.2 3pm .6 Blk .9 blk A is Iggy and B is wallace, very little difference in stats Dalembert is better than Foster no doubt but neither are game changers and both focus more on defense than offense and both are great rebounders. So even though Dalembert is better than Foster its much less of an impact than lets say Amare against David Lee or Pierce against Brewer </div> don't base everything on stats. If you based everything on stats then Zach Randolph would be an All-Star
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: Stephon Marbury/Eric Gordon SG: Mike Miller/Martell Webster SF: King James PF: Chris Wilcox C : Jermaine O'Neal I'm throwin' myself to the dogs.....rate it</div> Heh I'd play Miller at PG and Webster at SG. Marbury once was an elite PG, but his spirit has been broken for several seasons. Your team is much better than the current Cavaliers team. Not sure it would beat this year's Celtics tho. </div> LeBron James is practically my PG or the guy that everyone plays off of in my offense like the Cavs. The current Cavs team sucks besides LeBron, and look how far they've gotten the last 2 years. I added quite a bit of talent around LeBron, and considering playing with someone like him makes everyone try hard and want to win, I'm not worried about JO or Marbury under-performing. They aren't the franchise player anymore and would settle into doing their roles around King James and be good vets on the team. I still got quite a few bigs in mind that will help my team even if I get one, so I'm not worried not having anyone there on the bench yet.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 10:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Foster can't win a starting job on a team that needs a C. Think about it. He gets his boards (lots of them, granted) against 2nd units.</div> He started 52 games at center last year and averaged 27 mins 7.2 pts and 9.4 rebs. If you say that about Foster may I be able to say Lee can't win a job on a team that needs a PF, first off he couldn't beat Randolph for a spot and second off he gets all his boards off 2nd units. He only started 29 games on a disgraceful Knicks team
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: Stephon Marbury/Eric Gordon SG: Mike Miller/Martell Webster SF: King James PF: Chris Wilcox C : Jermaine O'Neal I'm throwin' myself to the dogs.....rate it</div> Heh I'd play Miller at PG and Webster at SG. Marbury once was an elite PG, but his spirit has been broken for several seasons. Your team is much better than the current Cavaliers team. Not sure it would beat this year's Celtics tho. </div> LeBron James is practically my PG or the guy that everyone plays off of in my offense like the Cavs. The current Cavs team sucks besides LeBron, and look how far they've gotten the last 2 years. I added quite a bit of talent around LeBron, and considering playing with someone like him makes everyone try hard and want to win, I'm not worried about JO or Marbury under-performing. They aren't the franchise player anymore and would settle into doing their roles around King James and be good vets on the team. I still got quite a few bigs in mind that will help my team even if I get one, so I'm not worried not having anyone there on the bench yet. </div> Ye this is a really good team, you did a good job building pieces around Lebron. Marbury may not even be in the league next year but besides that everything else looks good
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 10:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Denny Crane @ Aug 13 2008, 07:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 07:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>PG: Stephon Marbury/Eric Gordon SG: Mike Miller/Martell Webster SF: King James PF: Chris Wilcox C : Jermaine O'Neal I'm throwin' myself to the dogs.....rate it</div> Heh I'd play Miller at PG and Webster at SG. Marbury once was an elite PG, but his spirit has been broken for several seasons. Your team is much better than the current Cavaliers team. Not sure it would beat this year's Celtics tho. </div> LeBron James is practically my PG or the guy that everyone plays off of in my offense like the Cavs. The current Cavs team sucks besides LeBron, and look how far they've gotten the last 2 years. I added quite a bit of talent around LeBron, and considering playing with someone like him makes everyone try hard and want to win, I'm not worried about JO or Marbury under-performing. They aren't the franchise player anymore and would settle into doing their roles around King James and be good vets on the team. I still got quite a few bigs in mind that will help my team even if I get one, so I'm not worried not having anyone there on the bench yet. </div> I don't really agree that this team is better than the current cavs team. Of course, I'm not willing to laugh off JO or Mebury, either.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ye this is a really good team, you did a good job building pieces around Lebron. Marbury may not even be in the league next year but besides that everything else looks good</div> Why would Marbury not be in the league next year? He practically was sitting out this year because Isiaih didn't want him and the Knicks were a mess. Why would you even try to play for a team that sucks donkey balls and they don't even want you? Marbury is still a good player, and would definitely be good on a team that wants him and has some other people to help him out. The Knicks have no playmakers, just a bunch of scorers that look for their shot. I don't see any problem with Marbury because he really just needs a change of scenery and he'll be alright.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (J_Ray @ Aug 13 2008, 10:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (kk30 @ Aug 13 2008, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Ye this is a really good team, you did a good job building pieces around Lebron. Marbury may not even be in the league next year but besides that everything else looks good</div> Why would Marbury not be in the league next year? He practically was sitting out this year because Isiaih didn't want him and the Knicks were a mess. Why would you even try to play for a team that sucks donkey balls and they don't even want you? Marbury is still a good player, and would definitely be good on a team that wants him and has some other people to help him out. The Knicks have no playmakers, just a bunch of scorers that look for their shot. I don't see any problem with Marbury because he really just needs a change of scenery and he'll be alright. </div> The Knicks want to cut him because they guaranteed Duhon the starting role. He also might play in Europe since hes said he'll gladly play in Italy last year http://www.nypost.com/seven/07182007/sport...marc_berman.htm
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (JFizzleRaider @ Aug 13 2008, 10:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Marbury is used goods. And again I say, When is Marbury ever on winning teams?</div> The year the before the Celtics won the championship KG was on a 32-50 team, Ray Allen was on a 31-51 team and Paul Pierce was on a 24-58 team. If the right people are in the right environment they can win so that argument doesn't always work. But Marbury has always been a headcase and hes a below average player as of now and should never be able to start again. I will agree with Jfizzle that he is "used goods" But you still have a good team
the difference is KG, Ray Allen and Paul Pierce all have won as the best players on their teams. Stephon Marbury has been traded around the league and couldn't even sniff a winning season as the best player on a team.
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (User01 @ Aug 14 2008, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Farmar/Sessions Martin/Ariza Granger/Ariza Villanueva/Frye Bynum/Frye OKC 8 man rotation.</div> It looks like you duplicated your players. I did a double take lol.
